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Re: Frogbeats C4 IEM Measurements
« Reply #30 on: March 31, 2013, 04:22:12 AM »
I think I may get these in the future.  Good?  I read LFs review as well we PMed back and forth.  If its similar to the UERM I think I'll like the sound. 
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Re: Frogbeats C4 IEM Measurements
« Reply #31 on: March 31, 2013, 04:31:49 AM »
Similar to UERM. A little more clarity. A little more warmth.
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Re: Frogbeats C4 IEM Measurements
« Reply #32 on: March 31, 2013, 05:18:02 AM »
More warmth and more clarity?  That impresses me!  Not often you see that.
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Re: Frogbeats C4 IEM Measurements
« Reply #33 on: March 31, 2013, 05:46:48 AM »
I can't wait until I get the C5. If I really like the C5, I'll try to get the C4 as well for comparison
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Re: Frogbeats C4 IEM Measurements
« Reply #34 on: April 02, 2013, 03:40:11 AM »
I know LFF said that the dip really wasn't audible unless he was doing sweeps.  I guess thats a good thing since it isn't very evident when music is played.  Or has anyone heard a difference?  In any case, it will be my future CIEM.   :boom:

I know some people have felt that it was lacking in the treble department but if its clearer than the UERM how can it have less treble?

I know by the graphs the UERM may be about 13dB where as the C4 was at about possible 11dB?  Is the treble that evidently less?
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Re: Frogbeats C4 IEM Measurements
« Reply #35 on: April 02, 2013, 03:13:32 PM »
Quote from: Hawaiiancerveza on April 02, 2013, 03:40:11 AM
I know some people have felt that it was lacking in the treble department but if its clearer than the UERM how can it have less treble?

I'm talking out of my ass here, so don't give it too much credit, but I vaguely hypothesize that the C4 may be clearer on account of being subtly colored and the dip may actually play a part here. That is, I'm wondering if the C4 clarity is somewhat 'artificially enhanced'.
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Re: Frogbeats C4 IEM Measurements
« Reply #36 on: April 02, 2013, 03:22:17 PM »
Quote from: Hawaiiancerveza on April 02, 2013, 03:40:11 AM
I know LFF said that the dip really wasn't audible unless he was doing sweeps.  I guess thats a good thing since it isn't very evident when music is played.  Or has anyone heard a difference?  In any case, it will be my future CIEM.   :boom:

I know some people have felt that it was lacking in the treble department but if its clearer than the UERM how can it have less treble?

I know by the graphs the UERM may be about 13dB where as the C4 was at about possible 11dB?  Is the treble that evidently less?

I didn't think so.

You have to keep in mind that the human ear doesn't prioritize treble that much. The ear is most sensitive in the mid-range followed by the lows. Under ideal circumstances, engineers can hear differences of .5db in most of the frequency spectrum. In real life, I have seen people not notice a difference between 0 and -5db in the MIDS!  :-00   If you are over 20 and can hear above 13kHz, consider yourself lucky as many young people have quite a bit of hearing loss thanks to loud iBuds.

As for the dip...it's really narrow and you can't hear it while listening to music at all. 

Conclusion: C4 still kicks ass.
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Re: Frogbeats C4 IEM Measurements
« Reply #37 on: April 02, 2013, 04:23:10 PM »
Would others say that 'clarity' is something that exists because of how much treble there is? For me clarity is something that applies to the entire spectrum and tends to be most noticeable in the mids.
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Re: Frogbeats C4 IEM Measurements
« Reply #38 on: April 02, 2013, 04:27:22 PM »
Quote from: ocswing on April 02, 2013, 04:23:10 PM
Would others say that 'clarity' is something that exists because of how much treble there is? For me clarity is something that applies to the entire spectrum and tends to be most noticeable in the mids.

I would agree with you.

Clarity, as well as detail, is something that extends throughout the entire frequency range...not just the highs.
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Re: Frogbeats C4 IEM Measurements
« Reply #39 on: April 02, 2013, 06:42:10 PM »
Thanks guys!  I never thought of it that way.  What I gathered from the responses is that its through out the entire spectrum of sound, mids playing a large factor.  Would that mean a flatter FQ the clearer?  Or would a slightly elevated mid offer more clarity.  Also the BA's vs Dynamic plays a big part also wouldn't it? 

Haha I like that conclusion LFF.  Kick Ass! 
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