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Author Topic: VPI Classic 1 Turnable - look what the cat dragged in.  (Read 3583 times)

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Re: VPI Classic 1 Turnable - look what the cat dragged in.
« Reply #10 on: August 20, 2015, 05:13:40 AM »
Did you say acrylic with steel plates or lead shot? Let's do it.
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Re: VPI Classic 1 Turnable - look what the cat dragged in.
« Reply #11 on: August 20, 2015, 05:23:16 AM »
Hard to say. VPI will change stuff and say it's the best thing evar. They did weird stuff a while back with the HW-19 and actually gave it a crappier platter. The Aries 1, 2, and 3 have been discontinued. It's interesting that the Aries 3D now uses the same Classic 2" aluminum platter. For sure, the sound they have evolved to with the Classic series is a bit different. The $30K TOTL Classic is actually a direct drive TT. Yeah, DD.

It will be fun to start machining stuff like center weights, feet, periphery rings at a fraction of the cost of that VPI sells them for.  Maybe Ravi can get Google scientists to make fluid damping feet.

I'm actually thinking the all aluminum platter (2" thick) might be better than an acrylic / metal composite. A better more massive plinth might be in order. I believe the Classic 3 and 4 bases have aluminum, steel, and MDF with damping sheets.
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Re: VPI Classic 1 Turnable - look what the cat dragged in.
« Reply #12 on: August 20, 2015, 05:35:17 AM »
I don't get the acrylic thing. Acrylic deforms with temperature flux and isn't as stable as other traditional materials. Seems like marketing BS to me.
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Re: VPI Classic 1 Turnable - look what the cat dragged in.
« Reply #13 on: August 20, 2015, 05:39:17 AM »
Congrats and welcome to the VPI family. I've got an upgraded but still lowly HW19 and a Traveler with the 19's mk3 platter with the clamp. Clamps[/Futurama]

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Re: VPI Classic 1 Turnable - look what the cat dragged in.
« Reply #14 on: August 20, 2015, 05:42:17 AM »
Quote from: Anaxilus on August 20, 2015, 05:35:17 AM
I don't get the acrylic thing. Acrylic deforms with temperature flux and isn't as stable as other traditional materials. Seems like marketing BS to me.

Less ringy and zingy. The small lightweight metal platter of my Project is that way (slightly ringy). Of course replace with the Project small acrylic, and we swing toward dead. (BTW. I had the acrylic platter during the last meet at my place). I think VPI suddenly realized... oh crap, 2" of metal won't ring. Let's chuck that acrylic.
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Re: VPI Classic 1 Turnable - look what the cat dragged in.
« Reply #15 on: August 20, 2015, 05:48:59 AM »
Easy, replace thin aluminum with 50lb copper platter with balanced Tungsten inserts. Maybe I could talk to some friends and acquire some Chobham armor sandwiched by depleted uranium plates. Don't think that would ring.
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Re: VPI Classic 1 Turnable - look what the cat dragged in.
« Reply #16 on: August 20, 2015, 05:54:10 AM »
Welcome back to the rabbit hole! The bad news: there is no bottom, and everything is expensive  8)

Count me as yet another Rega hater. A heavy table is a good table. Acrylic plinths and platters are definitely preferable to MDF, but I think you're right that metal or some kind of multi-layer composite is a better option. The 14" platter on my Ace Space 294 (with heavy kit) provides a wonderfully stable platform for what this thing cost, but I am certainly jealous of the Dais' iron platter which they spin while casting to ensure perfect uniformity. Oh and it clocks in at 50 pounds on the platter alone. The Dais table altogether is 100 pounds.

What I'm very anxious to hear is Nottingham's new Deco, which takes over for the somewhat dumb looking Anna Log as their SOTA design.

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Re: VPI Classic 1 Turnable - look what the cat dragged in.
« Reply #17 on: August 20, 2015, 05:59:55 AM »
AHAHAHA!! That looks like half of a Dalek. Awesome! :)p1

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Re: VPI Classic 1 Turnable - look what the cat dragged in.
« Reply #18 on: August 20, 2015, 06:04:54 AM »
This post warms my heart man. It's a whole other ballgame trying to dial in so many more pieces of your vinyl chain, and then having to deal with what pressings sound the best for your favorite albums. I've decided that tracking down expensive first pressings aren't really my thing, and will settle on remastered pressings that sound great. The Music Matters 33.3 series Blue Notes going on right now are some of my faves, as well as the recent MFSL releases in the last few years. Color variants of new releases are my vice though, and I end up with like five copies of the same album (yes, I fall for the gimmicks).

Nice shiny vinyl there makes me believe you didn't find that Phil Collins record in the dollar bin  ;D

So jealous you guys have that huge Amoeba down there.  headbang
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Re: VPI Classic 1 Turnable - look what the cat dragged in.
« Reply #19 on: August 20, 2015, 06:24:44 AM »
Quote from: Anaxilus on August 20, 2015, 05:59:55 AM
AHAHAHA!! That looks like half of a Dalek. Awesome! :)p1

The Doctor envisions Dave's future turntable.  :-*

Ha! I see it. This is an interesting setup with an O-L arm in place of one of Nottingham's unipivots. I used to have an Origin Live before I switched to the Ace Space. Nottingham beat 'em. And Michell. And everything else I got a chance to hear at under $4K.

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