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Re: HiFiMan HE400S Measurements and Short Impressions
« Reply #30 on: August 12, 2015, 03:02:58 AM »
This headphone is tempting, but bass roll off like that on a planar is kind of, well quite heavily unexpected actually. First time any of Fang's headphones have done that. Seems like the HE-400S has some unique tech (or lack thereof?) in it relative to the rest of their line. Nonetheless, distortion and impulse response performance like this at $300 is quite impressive. I'd like to try these.

Quote from: marvey on August 11, 2015, 03:49:13 PM
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Re: HiFiMan HE400S Measurements and Short Impressions
« Reply #31 on: August 12, 2015, 03:53:09 AM »
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it appears we have an entry level planer for the win in mid-fi land er...purgatory!

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Re: HiFiMan HE400S Measurements and Short Impressions
« Reply #32 on: August 12, 2015, 06:04:47 AM »
A comparison with HE400i would be great since its closer in price than 560
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Re: HiFiMan HE400S Measurements and Short Impressions
« Reply #33 on: August 12, 2015, 07:10:38 AM »
Quote from: playboiiz on August 12, 2015, 06:04:47 AM
A comparison with HE400i would be great since its closer in price than 560

I would suggest forget about 400i and go for either 400S or 560. 400S has far better price/performance ratio while 560 has far better technicality. Price ain't an indicator of nothing.
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Re: HiFiMan HE400S Measurements and Short Impressions
« Reply #34 on: August 12, 2015, 11:20:46 AM »
Quote from: Griffon on August 12, 2015, 07:10:38 AM
I would suggest forget about 400i and go for either 400S or 560. 400S has far better price/performance ratio while 560 has far better technicality. Price ain't an indicator of nothing.

Thank you Griffon!
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Re: HiFiMan HE400S Measurements and Short Impressions
« Reply #35 on: August 12, 2015, 04:48:04 PM »
Quote from: marvey on August 11, 2015, 03:45:05 PM
I don't think HE400S competes with HE560. Sure FR is a little bit different (and I can see people preferring the HE400S response) but HE560 is more resolving and faster sounding. The Bill-p and Jerg modded HE560s were pretty fantastic

Slightly of topic but how would you compare a properly driven hd6X0 to the modded he560?  Reports of the the jerg560 sounding like a baby code-x with most  of the detail of a hd800 got me curious but at $800 its only $100 away from a used hd800.

  I like the paradox sound including the subbass but lack of dynamics and my new found mission to get a tube amp for tube clarity and tube bloom have got me questioning gettinng another ortho
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Re: HiFiMan HE400S Measurements and Short Impressions
« Reply #36 on: August 12, 2015, 05:30:09 PM »
Quote from: audiofrk on August 12, 2015, 04:48:04 PM
Slightly of topic but how would you compare a properly driven hd6X0 to the modded he560?  Reports of the the jerg560 sounding like a baby code-x with most  of the detail of a hd800 got me curious but at $800 its only $100 away from a used hd800.

  I like the paradox sound including the subbass but lack of dynamics and my new found mission to get a tube amp for tube clarity and tube bloom have got me questioning gettinng another ortho

HE560 is more resolving than Paradox, but still suffers from lack of dynamics, like all other planars, which do tend to sound more compressed compared to the great dynamics: HD6x0/HD800.

The HD6x0 is a bit more resolving than the HE560, but you need good enough DAC/amp to take advantage of that. Where HD6x0 is most lacking is in bass clarity and low bass extension.

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Re: HiFiMan HE400S Measurements and Short Impressions
« Reply #37 on: August 12, 2015, 05:32:21 PM »
Quote from: audiofrk on August 12, 2015, 04:48:04 PM
Slightly of topic but how would you compare a properly driven hd6X0 to the modded he560?  Reports of the the jerg560 sounding like a baby code-x with most  of the detail of a hd800 got me curious but at $800 its only $100 away from a used hd800.

  I like the paradox sound including the subbass but lack of dynamics and my new found mission to get a tube amp for tube clarity and tube bloom have got me questioning gettinng another ortho

I wouldn't say the HE560s could do most of the detail of HD800, it does well enough in other regards, but HD800's resolution (especially in the treble) is pretty legendary. Whatever I have tried doing with HE560s are to improve the acoustic enclosure. Ultimately HE560's SQ is limited by its drivers, which I feel are great, but not quite HD800-level of refinedness.
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Re: HiFiMan HE400S Measurements and Short Impressions
« Reply #38 on: August 13, 2015, 07:25:43 AM »
HE6 driver is clearly superior to 560 in resolution and it's still waaay behind the HD800. The idea of the 560 being close is from people who haven't heard and HD800 properly. Their gear is probably mediocre. Yes, I know that's a typical line that gets eyes rolling. Unfortunately it's usually true wrt HD800 impressions.
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Re: HiFiMan HE400S Measurements and Short Impressions
« Reply #39 on: August 13, 2015, 11:02:52 AM »
Quote from: Anaxilus on August 13, 2015, 07:25:43 AM
HE6 driver is clearly superior to 560 in resolution and it's still waaay behind the HD800. The idea of the 560 being close is from people who haven't heard and HD800 properly. Their gear is probably mediocre. Yes, I know that's a typical line that gets eyes rolling. Unfortunately it's usually true wrt HD800 impressions.

What are your thoughts on HE1K's resolving power vs HD800? I felt when I did some comparisons that HD800 still had a tad more treble detail, but midrange/bass the two are quite neck-to-neck.
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