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Re: Windows 10 "upgrade"? haha
« Reply #30 on: July 30, 2015, 06:09:30 PM »
From Microsoft:

"If you install from the ISO/media, as long as you start the upgrade from within a Genuine/activated copy of Windows 7/8.1 (e.g. by double-clicking Setup.exe), you shouldn't need your CD key.

However, doing a "clean install" (for example, booting from the ISO/media, rather than launching setup.exe from within the existing Windows installation), you will need to enter your CD key again.

Also, just a reminder to the folks on this thread, the upgrade is being rolled out over time, so you won't see the icon until the upgrade is ready for your machine.  We are taking a measured approach to ensure that we only upgrade users when we have a high confidence level for the compatibility of their device.

If you want to upgrade right away, follow the directions at the site linked above, but in general, our recommendation is actually to wait until the icon returns and notifies you that the upgrade is now ready for your machine, which will mean that we have fixed the majority of issues that could possibly impact your device."

http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_10-win_upgrade/get-windows-10-icon-disappeared/e4fa3431-f91d-4882-a352-4561cbf5e9f2?page=2
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Re: Windows 10 "upgrade"? haha
« Reply #31 on: July 30, 2015, 06:27:42 PM »
I really enjoy reading threads like this.
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Re: Windows 10 "upgrade"? haha
« Reply #32 on: July 30, 2015, 06:28:12 PM »
Why the rush to Windows 10? History has shown us not to do these things. Windows 3.0 (before 3.1), Windows NT (before SP2), Windows 95 (before SE), Windows ME, Windows Vista, etc.
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Re: Windows 10 "upgrade"? haha
« Reply #33 on: July 30, 2015, 06:30:14 PM »
Quote from: Anaxilus on July 30, 2015, 06:09:30 PM
From Microsoft:

"If you install from the ISO/media, as long as you start the upgrade from within a Genuine/activated copy of Windows 7/8.1 (e.g. by double-clicking Setup.exe), you shouldn't need your CD key.

However, doing a "clean install" (for example, booting from the ISO/media, rather than launching setup.exe from within the existing Windows installation), you will need to enter your CD key again.

I'm having this issue with activation.  Lucklily I'm doing this on a spare computer for testing, but still...

I started the process within Windows 8.1 and followed all the prompts.  Now, it says no activation code and the one that really is on my machine isn't working for some reason (though 100% legit and bought within the last month).


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Re: Windows 10 "upgrade"? haha
« Reply #34 on: July 30, 2015, 06:31:19 PM »
Quote from: marvey on July 30, 2015, 06:28:12 PM
Why the rush to Windows 10?

I don't know. I was going to start a thread about why people feel the need to rush to the latest shiniest new thing and suspend better judgement to increase the potential for wasted time. I mean, people will stand in line for days to get a phone that can't make phone calls. Go figure.
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Re: Windows 10 "upgrade"? haha
« Reply #35 on: July 30, 2015, 06:35:37 PM »
Quote from: sfoclt on July 30, 2015, 06:30:14 PM
I'm having this issue with activation.  Lucklily I'm doing this on a spare computer for testing, but still...

I started the process within Windows 8.1 and followed all the prompts.  Now, it says no activation code and the one that really is on my machine isn't working for some reason (though 100% legit and bought within the last month).




I saw some confusion about whether this would work with an upgrade or OEM vendor installed license. My tech spidey senses tell me the safest way to go about it would be to do the regulated upgrade per GWX, log the current and potentially new key and then do a clean install. I recall reading somewhere a few months ago they recommended doing a regular upgrade first before a clean install. Yes it's stupid but this is what actual techs have to deal with. Stupid vendors and their stupid lawyers/accountants, and stupid end users with lots of porn and malware. So to be successful, you have to think stupid. Afterall, computers are inherently dumb.

As best practice on a clean install, I would definitely remove as many peripherals as possible that aren't the C:, input devices and the GPU. Get stable and patched, then add stuff back one at a time. Should be able to just add all drives at once though.
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Re: Windows 10 "upgrade"? haha
« Reply #36 on: July 30, 2015, 06:43:40 PM »
Upgrading to windows 10 seems to make things sound more brighter. Both Wasapi/ASIO
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Re: Windows 10 "upgrade"? haha
« Reply #37 on: July 30, 2015, 06:49:33 PM »
Quote from: Anaxilus on July 30, 2015, 06:35:37 PM
I saw some confusion about whether this would work with an upgrade or OEM vendor installed license. My tech spidey senses tell me the safest way to go about it would be to do the regulated upgrade per GWX, log the current and potentially new key and then do a clean install.

If you're just doing this a personal non-business computer and don't have to worry about audits, a fresh install and activating via Microsoft Toolkit.
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Re: Windows 10 "upgrade"? haha
« Reply #38 on: July 30, 2015, 09:09:40 PM »
Quote from: sfoclt on July 30, 2015, 06:30:14 PM
I'm having this issue with activation.  Lucklily I'm doing this on a spare computer for testing, but still...

I started the process within Windows 8.1 and followed all the prompts.  Now, it says no activation code and the one that really is on my machine isn't working for some reason (though 100% legit and bought within the last month).

From what I've read, the activation servers are getting absolutely hammered, and so it's just not working for some people, and you just have to be patient.

Apparently the way the free upgrade works is that you generate basically a generic key, and your unique key is tied to your hardware - seems to be the motherboard. So if you're upgrading from say 7 to 10, you can do the upgrade install which will generate a HW key for your system, and then after that you can do as many clean installs as you want from a fresh W10 installer. When it asks for a key just skip it, and then once in Windows, go to the activator and it will find your HW key and activate for you. That means you should be able to change HDDs, GFX, etc, but changing motherboards would probably require a new key.
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Re: Windows 10 "upgrade"? haha
« Reply #39 on: July 30, 2015, 09:26:04 PM »
well, Paul can poop on us lowly windows users, but win 10 is fucking phenomenal so far. I'm REALLY enjoying the experience. The low power states are much improved, I'm seeing an incremental improvement in battery life and general navigation and UX is leagues ahead of my MBP right now. Microsoft has a great experience here and they've really put a lot of thought into the navigational and screen management paradigms. I'm an early fan.

It took me 15 minutes to reserve, download, and install the update and everything was ready to go. I went ahead and installed it fresh on a second machine and it even is syncing my background and layouts from my first machine. Little useful things that it looks like MS has learned from mobile OSes.
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