Topic: Purrin's DAC Chart of Awesomeness. (Read 55399 times)

thegunner100 · « **Reply #380 on:** September 13, 2015, 03:44:12 AM »

Actually... here's how it goes:

Gen 1 and Gen 2 refer to the USB modules inside the gungnir. The Gungnir on this char refers to the gungnir with the gen 2 USB input. I believe maxvla used the Gen 1 USB input, as his post was made before the Gen 2 USB was released. Gumby, or the Multi-bit upgrade for the gungnir, is separate from the USB input upg since it is replacing the digital to analog card.

I've never tried the Gen 1 USB on the gungnir but when I had the Gen 2 usb gungnir (keep in mind... NOT gumby), with the hd800s, mods, and Vali, I found it to be fatiguing over time. YMMV. If Gumby is 90% of Yggy and slightly on the warmer side then it will no doubt do well with the hd800s.

Get a Gungnir with USB gen 2 or save up for a gumby. It'll be worth it.

Thad E Ginathom · « **Reply #381 on:** September 13, 2015, 09:35:28 AM »

Quote from: Thenewdude007 on September 13, 2015, 02:42:34 AM

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So non multi-bit Gungnir is a no go?
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I just had one on loan to audition. It didn't suit me. it does suit others, but not all, so if you like it, that makes it very much a "yes go." I think you have done a thorough job of searching out the review/reaction posts here and elsewhere already (thanks for pointing to Maxvla's post, which could be very useful to me re decisions now postponed to sometime-in-the-future).

To my somewhat defective (but hey, I've been listening to music for over five decades) ear, it is not transparent, but has its own sound.

In USA? Take advantage of Schiit's return scheme and find out!

Thenewdude007 · « **Reply #382 on:** September 13, 2015, 11:10:14 AM »

Gungnir Gen 2 has been described as musical & bassy, that definitely what I am looking for to pair with the HD800.
Seems the gen 2 improved the clarity & detail & lowered the "shouty-ness" of the DAC to reasonable levels.

Reading Purrin review/rank for the gen 2 version has really shot it up to the top of my list.
Is the difference between the gen 2 & multibit upgrade as huge as the gen 1 to gen 2 upgrade was or is it much smaller?

Anyone think the Gungnir Gen 2 & a Violetric V200 be overkill for the HD800?

I don't want the soundstage to be destroyed to get the decent mids & bass I want.

BassDigger · « **Reply #383 on:** September 13, 2015, 11:51:00 AM »

Quote from: Thenewdude007 on September 13, 2015, 11:10:14 AM

Gungnir Gen 2 has been described as musical & bassy, that definitely what I am looking for to pair with the HD800.
Seems the gen 2 improved the clarity & detail & lowered the "shouty-ness" of the DAC to reasonable levels.

Reading Purrin review/rank for the gen 2 version has really shot it up to the top of my list.
Is the difference between the gen 2 & multibit upgrade as huge as the gen 1 to gen 2 upgrade was or is it much smaller?

Anyone think the Gungnir Gen 2 & a Violetric V200 be overkill for the HD800?

I don't want the soundstage to be destroyed to get the decent mids & bass I want.

I don't know; I've not heard either, but I'll chime in anyway. I'm willing to guess that the difference, between DS Gungnir and Gumby, will be greater than between gen 1 and 2 usb inputs.

Overkill? IMHO it sounds like 'underkill'. The HD800 is supposed to be ultra revealing, and that kit probably isn't going to make them shine at their best.

Just my opinion.

Thad E Ginathom · « **Reply #384 on:** September 13, 2015, 11:54:04 AM »

It's a gen-2 I was listening to. You might ask Kothganesh, but I think he bought that, rather than upgraded from a gen-1. Give him some time, and he might be able to tell you what it sounds like upgraded to Gumby.

To be blunt: it actually caused me discomfort. Right at the end of the two weeks it spent with me, I tried it through speakers, and thought it sounded great --- but I'm not looking for a new DAC for speaker listening.

Anaxilus · « **Reply #385 on:** September 13, 2015, 01:45:51 PM »

Quote from: Thenewdude007 on September 13, 2015, 11:10:14 AM

Gungnir Gen 2 has been described as musical & bassy, that definitely what I am looking for to pair with the HD800.
Seems the gen 2 improved the clarity & detail & lowered the "shouty-ness" of the DAC to reasonable levels.

Reading Purrin review/rank for the gen 2 version has really shot it up to the top of my list.
Is the difference between the gen 2 & multibit upgrade as huge as the gen 1 to gen 2 upgrade was or is it much smaller?

Anyone think the Gungnir Gen 2 & a Violetric V200 be overkill for the HD800?

I don't want the soundstage to be destroyed to get the decent mids & bass I want.

Not the hd800. It is overkill for the v200. As long as you are committed to that amp, don't waste your time or money.

bixby · « **Reply #386 on:** September 13, 2015, 04:07:40 PM »

Quote from: Thenewdude007 on September 13, 2015, 11:10:14 AM

Gungnir Gen 2 has been described as musical & bassy, that definitely what I am looking for to pair with the HD800.
Seems the gen 2 improved the clarity & detail & lowered the "shouty-ness" of the DAC to reasonable levels.

Reading Purrin review/rank for the gen 2 version has really shot it up to the top of my list.
Is the difference between the gen 2 & multibit upgrade as huge as the gen 1 to gen 2 upgrade was or is it much smaller?

Anyone think the Gungnir Gen 2 & a Violetric V200 be overkill for the HD800?

I don't want the soundstage to be destroyed to get the decent mids & bass I want.

I have heard both the Gung 2 and MB Gung in two separate systems. I would not lassify the MB Gungnir as overly bassy. M Perhaps My listening of the Gumby was though the Moljnir 2. Perhaps compared to some lean sounding dac some might call it a bit bassy, but I think it is relatively neutral down low. Where I think it did a very good job and trumped the Gungnir 2 was the upper mids and highs. I found the Gumby to be smoother and with no grain to speak of. Very nice sound but not quite to the more spacious and maybe even a bit sweeter Yggy to my ears. For me the Yggy is still a nice step up and very revealing yet relaxing.

Agree with Anax, if you have to have a German amp with a bit rolled off upper end for the HD800s you might as well save some money over the Vio V200 and get a slightly more neutral Lake People G109 or save up for a better amp.

Thenewdude007 · « **Reply #387 on:** September 13, 2015, 07:34:13 PM »

Quote from: Anaxilus on September 13, 2015, 01:45:51 PM

It is overkill for the v200. As long as you are committed to that amp, don't waste your time or money.

How the mighty have fallen. Reading through older threads & posts from just 4-6 years ago, it was at the top on everybody's list for the HD800. How it completely smoothed the treble & added much needed bass & midrange.

Now it seems like it is a pariah in the audio circles.

Quote from: bixby on September 13, 2015, 04:07:40 PM

Where I think it did a very good job and trumped the Gungnir 2 was the upper mids and highs. I found the Gumby to be smoother and with no grain to speak of.

The difference between the Gen 2 & the Gumby was mostly the upper region quality? So would you say the mids & low quality/quantity were about the same between the two?

I'm actually content with my HD800 uppers & I haven't even tried any of the Annax mods yet.

Anaxilus · « **Reply #388 on:** September 14, 2015, 12:16:22 AM »

Quote from: Thenewdude007 on September 13, 2015, 07:34:13 PM

How the mighty have fallen. Reading through older threads & posts from just 4-6 years ago, it was at the top on everybody's list for the HD800.

When I was on head-fi 4-6 years ago, it was never on my list. So not everybody. You've also noticed by now we aren't head-fi. They have their lists for their reasons, we have ours.

Thenewdude007 · « **Reply #389 on:** September 14, 2015, 09:34:02 AM »

Read through the entire thread. Definitely more clear on some things.

Just need to know how big of a jump the Gumby is over the Gen 2 Gungnir to solidify my purchase.
Is it one of those 50% higher price for 10% - 15% increase in performance? Can the owner chip in?

I'm tired of buying, auditioning & selling multiple amps & dacs. Tiered of reading through hundred of hundred of pages, spending all my free time researching & reading about other people's opinions.

If the 50% higher costs relates to a 50% increase in performance, I might just go for broke & get the Gumby. If not I'll go with the Gen2.

Oh & has anyone seen a used Gumby price that actually SOLD?
If I buy it & don't like it, I want to know the general hit I'm going to take in selling it.

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