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Re: Pyrate Leaderboard
« Reply #340 on: November 13, 2014, 04:32:22 AM »
not exactly in line with the other products on the leaderboard, but the V-Moda boompro mic is excellent.  I use it with M80s and the FSP for videoconferencing,
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Re: Pyrate Leaderboard
« Reply #341 on: November 13, 2014, 01:47:15 PM »
Quote from: shipsupt on November 13, 2014, 04:29:15 AM
I'd rather buy one M80 and be happy then spin the Beyerdynamic wheel and hope I get a decent set...
But, that's just it...I can't buy the M80 and be happy.  They just don't sound...right.  Not for my music, at least. 

For my preferences, the 1350 sound is simply in another class. 

Thankfully, the fit issues were nonexistent for me.  I find them far more comfortable than the M80s, which always felt strange on my ears due to the pad shape.  I can wear the 1350s for hours without issue.  But, I don't wear glasses and am not sensitive to tight(er) clamp.  In fact, I prefer it.  And, for a portable headphone where seal/isolation is important, the two headphones aren't close.

I only bought one pair, and feel good about them.  I'd be afraid to send them to Marv for measurement.  I'm sure he'd tell me that my pair is the worst he's ever measured and that my ears are made of lead :P

 
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Re: Pyrate Leaderboard
« Reply #342 on: November 13, 2014, 02:31:37 PM »
On one hand, I agree with Skyline that the good DT1350 that I've heard (the one I currently have) sounds better than the V-Moda M-80. In particular, it has noticeably better low bass extension and overall detail extraction.

On the other hand, it took me five DT1350s to get one that didn't have either a serious L/R channel mismatch (3 pairs) or serious problems with the frequency response (1 pair). Beyer's QC must consist of a single drunk deaf German guy.

The DT1350's also haven't been subject to the same kind of price deflation. The lowest I've ever seen them was for $145+$5 S&H new from Cowboom last year. I've seen new M-80's regularly go for $80 (well, lower than that, but I'm discounting the fluke Radio Shack $40 deal). I've seen "like new" used models go for as low as $60.

One real question that we should probably think about is whether or not we want to discount On-Ears purely because of comfort? If we do, that will pretty much eliminate most from the category that isn't a Koss Portapro/KSC-75 or other variant. I would understand that move too, because this whole category of headphone has awful ergonomics relative to both circumaurals and IEM's. I'm a glasses wearer myself and I know that discomfort keeps my on-ears from getting as much head time as they should. Probably something to keep in mind.

Quote from: zerodeefex on November 13, 2014, 04:32:22 AM
not exactly in line with the other products on the leaderboard, but the V-Moda boompro mic is excellent.  I use it with M80s and the FSP for videoconferencing,

The beautiful thing is how well it works with non-V-Moda products. I bought one for a gamer friend to use with his Skullcandy Aviators and it works fine. If it works with a Sony MDR-1R (it likely does), that would probably be the most comfortable gaming headset I could imagine. I'll have to try that out later.
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Re: Pyrate Leaderboard
« Reply #343 on: November 13, 2014, 02:45:39 PM »
Quote from: AustinValentine on November 13, 2014, 02:31:37 PM
On one hand, I agree with Skyline that the good DT1350 that I've heard (the one I currently have) sounds better than the V-Moda M-80. In particular, it has noticeably better low bass extension and overall detail extraction.

On the other hand, it took me five DT1350s to get one that didn't have either a serious L/R channel mismatch (3 pairs) or serious problems with the frequency response (1 pair). Beyer's QC must consist of a single drunk deaf German guy.

The DT1350's also haven't been subject to the same kind of price deflation. The lowest I've ever seen them was for $145+$5 S&H new from Cowboom last year. I've seen new M-80's regularly go for $80 (well, lower than that, but I'm discounting the fluke Radio Shack $40 deal). I've seen "like new" used models go for as low as $60.

One real question that we should probably think about is whether or not we want to discount On-Ears purely because of comfort? If we do, that will pretty much eliminate most from the category that isn't a Koss Portapro/KSC-75 or other variant. I would understand that move too, because this whole category of headphone has awful ergonomics relative to both circumaurals and IEM's. I'm a glasses wearer myself and I know that discomfort keeps my on-ears from getting as much head time as they should. Probably something to keep in mind.

The beautiful thing is how well it works with non-V-Moda products. I bought one for a gamer friend to use with his Skullcandy Aviators and it works fine. If it works with a Sony MDR-1R (it likely does), that would probably be the most comfortable gaming headset I could imagine. I'll have to try that out later.
I wonder if the T51P is subject to the same QC issues.

It's a very similar headphone to the 1350.  I prefer the 1350 sound, but there are many out there who disagree.
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Re: Pyrate Leaderboard
« Reply #344 on: November 13, 2014, 03:36:49 PM »
I'm fond of the DT1350 and T51p, myself. Best headphones Beyerdynamic makes these days lol.
The T51p's consistency seems pretty good; I heard three of them in a short span, as I had to keep sending them back due to the jack coming loose in transit and scratching the earcup.

The NAD Viso is also good.
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Re: Pyrate Leaderboard
« Reply #345 on: November 13, 2014, 04:13:16 PM »
propose the Code-X for OOP headphones. edit:The Code-X is the best hifiman I've ever heard.

Also, I'd take the FSP over the NAD most of the time on SQ alone. I've been using one with the little cracks in the headband for many months and they're just cosmetic defects at this point.
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Re: Pyrate Leaderboard
« Reply #346 on: November 13, 2014, 04:29:25 PM »
The Focal Spirit Pro is great --- I made a thread here singing its praises, which is something I rarely do, as I know folks here are picky SOBs lol. It has a nice neutral leaning sound sig, though I find it can also be a bit less engaging on certain tracks compared to the Beyers which are more "musical." The NADs sound least correct to me of the three, but they're the most comfortable and have an exaggerated audiophile-ish type of tonal balance.

The Sony MA900 is good sonically and extremely comfortable too IMO, but its built quality is shitty.
I miss the SA5000.
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Re: Pyrate Leaderboard
« Reply #347 on: November 13, 2014, 05:18:01 PM »
  • FSP then with *noted for possible fit issues (big heads or big ears)? Let's go with this? Yeah or neah? I'm tempted to say yes.
  • DT1350 I'm on the verge. I really do like the good ones. Still kinda pricey. I want to be sure they don't have issues with consistency.
  • M-80. Just a little over $100. Yes, SQ is not perfect. Will the detractors make a better case on why they feel the SQ doesn't warrant the M-80 being on the list given it's price? (I can say it, but I want you guys who don't like to to say it and make a stronger case against it.) Can you guys name an alternative?



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Re: Pyrate Leaderboard
« Reply #348 on: November 13, 2014, 06:27:13 PM »
I’m a definite +1 on the FSP.  I understand that fit varies from person to person as much as sound does; but they do fit me so they have my vote.  If I have a gripe with them, it’s the vague detents of the adjustable headband- much like most full-sized Beyers.  I like a solid “CLICK!” like those on the Senns.  Even better are the clicks on the newer Sonys and Ultrasones just to name a few.  But I digress.

My M80s have just gotten more bassy since I first got them; so much that I gave them away.  I’m not sure if the seal got better on them or my tastes have changed.  Perhaps a bit of both.  In that price range but perhaps a different category, has anyone listened to the MDR-7506 lately?  They are quite “monitor-ish” sounding for me and maybe a tad lifeless.  But I think they’re extraordinarily competent in a lot of ways.  My biggest gripe with these older Sonys has always been the pads- that they get too warm for me quickly.  But I found an alternative aftermarket pad (Yaxi) that is almost as good as any other non-leather pad.
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Re: Pyrate Leaderboard
« Reply #349 on: November 13, 2014, 07:35:38 PM »
Quote from: marvey on November 13, 2014, 05:18:01 PM
  • FSP then with *noted for possible fit issues (big heads or big ears)? Let's go with this? Yeah or neah? I'm tempted to say yes.
  • DT1350 I'm on the verge. I really do like the good ones. Still kinda pricey. I want to be sure they don't have issues with consistency.
  • M-80. Just a little over $100. Yes, SQ is not perfect. Will the detractors make a better case on why they feel the SQ doesn't warrant the M-80 being on the list given it's price? (I can say it, but I want you guys who don't like to to say it and make a stronger case against it.) Can you guys name an alternative?

Works for me :D
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