I had some problems getting seal. They also seemed to fit me a bit too low even with the cups pulled all the way up.
The trick is to sit them over the upper-back part of the pinna where they don't exactly feel right or most secure, but after some warmup they will wrap, sound and seal better. The fit does get better with wear, but is not ideal by a long shot, specially considering the pad diameter (they sit a little too much over my cheekbone).Thanks for the graphs!, did you try them with the lids off?. They are most easily removed if you unsecure the upper area first (by the hinges) and then pull it open like a door against the lower pin.
I will test the HM5 pads for fit on the stock headphone when I get it Friday night.
Here is the plot for another great sounding cheapy
Didn't try to remove the lids. I think these might benefit from Jerg pad technology for both acoustics and seal.
Dunno if the HM5 pads will help with seal and comfort. Hopefully Hans030390 will chime in.