CHANGSTAR: Audiophile Headphone Reviews and Early 90s Style BBS
Lobby => Headphone Measurements => Topic started by: Marvey on March 18, 2012, 10:16:36 PM
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SA5000 Frequency Response and CSD Waterfall Plots
They are not that bad if you don't crank them up. Noise floor set to -35db.
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i always knew they had good amount of air. that's why i always liked them listening low-levels. guess that can explain the clarity they have too. the bass seems very uneven from 100hz. guess that can explain the leanness(besides the major dip). i still like them though. i wonder would each set vary? i wonder if sony ever had any QC issues. i wonder how the v6's that's still kicking since the 70's would do.
have to look on the bright side though. i see graph art potential.
ohhh yea, almost forgot, appreciate your work as always.
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Am I reading it wrong or is there a dip at 3-4k followed by ringing? That seems weird to me. I'm guessing that has something to do with the physical design with the layout of the drivers and reflections?
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Yeah, that's pretty normal. In many cases dips are really peaks being cancelled by reflections. Their true nature is revealed in the CSDs over time.
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Interesting! Want to know more!
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Interesting! Want to know more!
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^ It's not from starship troopers, is it?
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:D
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even though they show a dip in the bass like that i never found them bass light really. yea they sounded bit leaner than the DF's but not by much. even though they don't measure super great i actually like the sa5000 a lot. they also work really well as gamer headphones as well cause recently i been playing Alan Wake with them.
wonder though is the reflections cause inside the chamber where pad area is or it's basic reflections within the outer part of the cup where believe the opening is, cause from what i know they're actually not a true open design. i also wonder if the plastic rings protecting the driver has anything to do with it. one thing i can say is the type of plastic they're made of the enclosure can get lot of mechanical vibrations transfered through-out the cup. you can hear it when you rub the cable with your finger nail but it's only noticeable in a dead quiet room.
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^ It's not from starship troopers, is it?
I loved the book and the movie.
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i was trying to figure what you guys were talking bout since i'm not good with remembering names so i watched the trailer and now i know it(not great with remembering names so much. can remember faces and pictures much better no problem though for some reason). that was pretty awesome movie. i liked it. never read the book though.
was the book better then the movie?
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They were totally different.
Some people think the book is kind of fascist. (I don't.) But then again, some people think I'm kind of fascist too.
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They were totally different.
Some people think the book is kind of fascist. (I don't.) But then again, some people think I'm kind of fascist too.
naw, i wouldn't say that. maybe misunderstood ::)
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Rex are you using the SA5000 w/ one of the vintage amps? I'm curious because I do find them seriously bass light, as in absent completely in the last couple octaves. I do like them better for music from my Sansui. Otherwise it's great for gaming w/ very simple, clean notes and not a lot of complex harmonics.
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Rex are you using the SA5000 w/ one of the vintage amps? I'm curious because I do find them seriously bass light, as in absent completely in the last couple octaves. I do like them better for music from my Sansui. Otherwise it's great for gaming w/ very simple, clean notes and not a lot of complex harmonics.
yea. right now i have them hooked up to speaker outputs of my 1980's Yamaha M-45 power amp and my yamaha is being driven from my 1980's H/K 725 preamp(i do also love running it off the matching H/K 770 dual-mono power amp as well but it's being serviced now so been using my yamaha lately). source is my echo audiofire 2 off it's balanced outputs(RCA to 1/4'' TRS jacks) at +4dbu gain setting. i find the bass gives nice punch and well enough impact. i mean it's not speaker like impact like my sextetts but it's nice an tight and lets you hear the ''impact''. it does sound tad bit leaner than my DF's but just a tad.
it might be me though. i'm not a basshead really and don't care for monster impact or rumble. i usually tend to favor midrange and air clarity over something that can fart in my ears but that's just me(that's why i don't use my sextetts. gonna probably give them away pretty soon since i don't use them anymore). i did try them once off my serviced sansui 5000x before i traded it off but can't exactly remember how it sounded. i think it sounded warmer off the sansui then my other amps but that's going by memory so i'm not 100% positive. i do like them lot for movie watching and games but i do use them a lot for listening and lately i been using them lot more then my DF's.
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^ It's not from starship troopers, is it?
I loved the book and the movie.
OT. I really liked the animated show "Roughnecks" as well.
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yea i forgot to mention. i have habit of doing this but i stuck some cotton underneath the SA5000 pads to distance them from my ears more cause i felt the pads were bit flat. that can help with a better seal. might help with the treble as well but i can't remember since i never compared. it did give me better seal though. i also tried the 240 foam disc since it fits inside but while it toned down the treble a lot it didn't help with the bass. just made it sound like i kicked the hi-filter on my preamp. looking at the drivers though way they're angled i wonder is the hd800 about same diameter? maybe the anax mod or something work for it as well(i think that's the right one i'm thinking of).