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Re: The All Purpose Advice Thread
« Reply #1310 on: August 22, 2015, 07:56:05 AM »

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Funny thing about using 1 headphone almost exclusively is that you get so used to the sound (your brain turns it into a reference) that other headphones can sound off.
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Thus, the HD600 sounded odd to me  :-[ for quite some time before I started to enjoy it, and it became my standard.
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Re: The All Purpose Advice Thread
« Reply #1311 on: August 22, 2015, 08:44:02 AM »

It is indeed startling sometimes to go quickly from one HP to another in a short time. Happened today when I was using the HD 800 for a couple of hours and did not like the source recording of DP (Deep Purple for you Anax :) ). Switched to the Slants and the smaller soundstage and lesser detail was welcome initially. Turned to the HD 650 and that turned out to be the sweet spot.
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Re: The All Purpose Advice Thread
« Reply #1312 on: August 22, 2015, 05:42:41 PM »

It is indeed startling sometimes to go quickly from one HP to another in a short time. Happened today when I was using the HD 800 for a couple of hours and did not like the source recording of DP (Deep Purple for you Anax :) ). Switched to the Slants and the smaller soundstage and lesser detail was welcome initially. Turned to the HD 650 and that turned out to be the sweet spot.

Deep Purple was the kind of band to really experiment with its sound crossing over from mono to stereo and beyond. Some Deep Purple mark II albums in particular will have peculiar "sound experiences." Add the legendary Jon Lord and prepare for a bit of madness.
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Re: The All Purpose Advice Thread
« Reply #1313 on: August 23, 2015, 07:11:33 AM »

dumb follow-up on my amp/DAC HE560 adventures...

decided to get a vintage R2R DAC, assemblage one.
will make it work with USB, friend helping out with that.

heard the Lyr2 and HE560 today, not too impressed. a tad wooly bass and ever so slightly congested.
I feel that I can get something better for the price of $600 Canadians or whatever it was. :|
afraid most (cheaper?) toob amps just aren't cutting it for me...

I assume the SS-tubes would help but that's more money there as well.

OG Mojo is on sale for $650 + 14% tax, a bit much still and with the mojo 2 out now?
not sure where to go from here.

Ember 2 any better in bass than the Lyr 2?

any more DIY kits worth looking up - that you have experience with?

too picky for my budget I am sure. $700 CAD is as much as I can justify ATM.

thanks!
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Re: The All Purpose Advice Thread
« Reply #1314 on: August 23, 2015, 02:30:40 PM »

dumb follow-up on my amp/DAC HE560 adventures...

decided to get a vintage R2R DAC, assemblage one.
will make it work with USB, friend helping out with that.

Ember 2 any better in bass than the Lyr 2?

any more DIY kits worth looking up - that you have experience with?
too picky for my budget I am sure. $700 CAD is as much as I can justify ATM.
thanks!

Assemblage DAC-1 is a great choice. (And $199 on Canuck Audio Mart too if that's the one you're - killer deal, that's like $150 US. If you haven't pulled the trigger already, and that's the one you're considering, buy it fast because it won't last up there.)  If your friend doesn't have any tech magic in mind, you'll need a USB-to-SPDIF converter to make that usable. Budget recommendations for that are the Gustard U12 (great for the money), Melodious MX-U8, and any of the Jkenny SPDIF converters that you can find used.

The Ember II can come pre-assembled so that you don't have to worry about kits. With the Amperex & Telefunken tubes that I used, congestion and wooly bass certainly wasn't an issue. (Though, I wouldn't have thought it would have been an issue with the Lyr2 either. Hrm.) The stock tube on the Ember sucks, so if you're budgeting set aside another 40 CAD for a replacement tube.

I'd be interested in how much a Liquid Carbon costs to import to Canada. At 700 CAD (530 USD) you're getting really close to the $599 price point of the Cavalli. If the import taxes, VAT, customs etc. aren't too expensive I'd probably try to stretch the budget a bit further and pick up one of those.
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Re: The All Purpose Advice Thread
« Reply #1315 on: August 23, 2015, 02:42:37 PM »

dumb follow-up on my amp/DAC HE560 adventures...

decided to get a vintage R2R DAC, assemblage one.
will make it work with USB, friend helping out with that.

heard the Lyr2 and HE560 today, not too impressed. a tad wooly bass and ever so slightly congested.
I feel that I can get something better for the price of $600 Canadians or whatever it was. :|
afraid most (cheaper?) toob amps just aren't cutting it for me...

I assume the SS-tubes would help but that's more money there as well.

OG Mojo is on sale for $650 + 14% tax, a bit much still and with the mojo 2 out now?
not sure where to go from here.

Ember 2 any better in bass than the Lyr 2?

any more DIY kits worth looking up - that you have experience with?

too picky for my budget I am sure. $700 CAD is as much as I can justify ATM.

thanks!


If you're in the Vancouver area you could always check out the importer of the Elekit TU-8200... He's a really nice guy, and would let you come over to listen before you buy. But then again the cost will rise quickly once you start rolling tubes...I know, I have more than the amps worth in preamp and power tubes, not to mention a trio of tube testers...lol

I had a great time building the kit. It took me 8 hours, and had excellent instructions.
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Re: The All Purpose Advice Thread
« Reply #1316 on: August 23, 2015, 03:31:35 PM »

I have to run 2 different usb sound outputs from my PC to 3 different amps. Any ideas on switches that would help me from switching cables around? I'd like to keep it to around $100, but will consider suggestions for higher amounts.
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Re: The All Purpose Advice Thread
« Reply #1317 on: August 24, 2015, 03:45:39 AM »

Assemblage DAC-1 is a great choice. (And $199 on Canuck Audio Mart too if that's the one you're - killer deal, that's like $150 US. If you haven't pulled the trigger already, and that's the one you're considering, buy it fast because it won't last up there.)  If your friend doesn't have any tech magic in mind, you'll need a USB-to-SPDIF converter to make that usable. Budget recommendations for that are the Gustard U12 (great for the money), Melodious MX-U8, and any of the Jkenny SPDIF converters that you can find used.

The Ember II can come pre-assembled so that you don't have to worry about kits. With the Amperex & Telefunken tubes that I used, congestion and wooly bass certainly wasn't an issue. (Though, I wouldn't have thought it would have been an issue with the Lyr2 either. Hrm.) The stock tube on the Ember sucks, so if you're budgeting set aside another 40 CAD for a replacement tube.

I'd be interested in how much a Liquid Carbon costs to import to Canada. At 700 CAD (530 USD) you're getting really close to the $599 price point of the Cavalli. If the import taxes, VAT, customs etc. aren't too expensive I'd probably try to stretch the budget a bit further and pick up one of those.

haha, yeah I saw that one. but my friend actually has one for sale, since he has the DAC-2 as well. I am buying his DAC-1.
we're working on some magic - will probably post about it here later, just in the planning stage atm ;)

the Lyr2 was completely stock but I really don't know... LCD-2 didn't sound as good either.
the DAC was an A&K AKJR - could that have been the issue?

really feel I need to hear the Ember 2 before deciding though... :)

would you advise against the Mojo BTW? I would be able to try it out myself in a while but nothing much to compare to except Taurus MK2 and Lyr2.... which actually would be pretty fair.
just felt the mojo was a little sharp in the upper freqs.


If you're in the Vancouver area you could always check out the importer of the Elekit TU-8200... He's a really nice guy, and would let you come over to listen before you buy. But then again the cost will rise quickly once you start rolling tubes...I know, I have more than the amps worth in preamp and power tubes, not to mention a trio of tube testers...lol

I had a great time building the kit. It took me 8 hours, and had excellent instructions.

ah cool - I live in downtown Vancouver, so that would be possible. :p
a little on the pricier side indeed. the stock tubes are decent though? I assume that's what I'd get to demo.

thank you!
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Re: The All Purpose Advice Thread
« Reply #1318 on: August 24, 2015, 04:02:24 AM »

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haha, yeah I saw that one. but my friend actually has one for sale, since he has the DAC-2 as well. I am buying his DAC-1.
we're working on some magic - will probably post about it here later, just in the planning stage atm ;)

the Lyr2 was completely stock but I really don't know... LCD-2 didn't sound as good either.
the DAC was an A&K AKJR - could that have been the issue?

really feel I need to hear the Ember 2 before deciding though... :)

would you advise against the Mojo BTW? I would be able to try it out myself in a while but nothing much to compare to except Taurus MK2 and Lyr2.... which actually would be pretty fair.
just felt the mojo was a little sharp in the upper freqs.

ah cool - I live in downtown Vancouver, so that would be possible. :p
a little on the pricier side indeed. the stock tubes are decent though? I assume that's what I'd get to demo.

thank you!

He's in Coquitlam just off Lougheed hwy. He has all kinds off tubes to try out.

The stock tubes are so-so, but for another $100. You could get GE 6L6GC's and Amperex/RCA cleartop 12AU7's and have quite the little hot rod setup. I use this amp for my headphones and to drive a set of Fostex 168eZ drivers in folded horn enclosure's.

This guy reviews and takes measurements that compare favorably to a few McIntosh tube amps (the Elekit does have considerably less power though)... http://www.kenrockwell.com/audio/elekit/tu-8200.htm
 
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Re: The All Purpose Advice Thread
« Reply #1319 on: August 25, 2015, 07:36:13 PM »

well the DAC idea might not work too well - I think I might spring for a USB-SPDIF converter instead. :(
SMD and lots of modding required, not sure I can afford it, or the time for it.

is the U12 the best bang for the buck here? it sure fits the budget, and I have heard the Assemblage via SPDIF to Mobo and it sounded fantastic even then. so I can't imagine this being any worse... but I'm curious to hear more thoughts about it.

as for amp, still haven't gotten any further. though with the U12 and Assemblage coming out to about $450 CAD total, I can expand the amp budget just a little bit. around $600 USD or so should be OK.

unfortunately, LC will be way more to import - probably another $200 or so on top of that.
does look very nice though :| I've been looking a bit at DIY as well now, but I'm not sure what I'm even doing.
does anyone know any DIY builds that work well with HE-560? don't really want anything that needs a huge case though.

JK47: very cool - though it does seem to be a touch out of budget with tube upgrades especially. $725 USD is the asking price, I just noticed.

I might try that one if I can't decide on anything in my actual budget though - just not sure I'll prioritize it, for now. :)

thank you!
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