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Re: Meridian Explorer DAC/AMP Review
« Reply #30 on: March 25, 2013, 01:18:21 AM »

LOL -- this whole Meridian debacle is the most awesome sequence of events that happened in recent memory.

-FOTM hype train for Meridian Explorer in full swing
-Tari, Anaxilus and Purrin all independently conclude that the ME is sluggish, sloppy and mushy sounding.
-ME fanboys accuse them of just hating for the sake of hating
-Purrin uploads measurements of UERM screwy FR and ME output impedence
-ME fanboys accuse Purrin of having faulty equipment
-Output impedence independently verified by Tyll
-ME fanboys argue, well the ME is great as a standalone DAC

Two takeaway points. The first being that site like this and Inner Fidelity are needed for consumer awareness and to keep manufacturers honest. The second is that fanboys will be fanboys and justify their purchases regardless of insurmountable evidence of the contrary.
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Re: Meridian Explorer DAC/AMP Review
« Reply #31 on: March 25, 2013, 01:39:58 AM »

So anyways, here are some measurements with the HF2.
  • The first one is the HF2 impedance measurement. It's low impedance, but actually fairly well behaved.
  • The second one is the FR. (IGNORE ANYTHING BELOW 80Hz, THE HF2 IS AN OPEN HEADPHONE AND THE BASS MEASUREMENT IS POLLUTED FROM ENVIRONMENTAL NOISE!)
  • Green is the direct O2 measurement.
  • Black is with 5 ohms in series.
In the case of the HF2, we wouldn't see changes in the FR with an additional 5 ohm output Z of the amp.
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Re: Meridian Explorer DAC/AMP Review
« Reply #32 on: March 25, 2013, 01:42:41 AM »

Quest - To be fair, there is a Changstar conspiracy to take down Meridian.  It's clearly documented in the secret messages of the Pirate Manifesto you can view with your decoder ring.


I do find it interesting that opinions on modern Meridian gear vary so wildly - its like the different camps are on opposite poles or something (you guys can ban me now.) 
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Re: Meridian Explorer DAC/AMP Review
« Reply #33 on: March 25, 2013, 02:05:30 AM »

Speaking of the effects of higher output impedance and how it affects the sound, e.g., makes it more sluggish, lush, organic, etc. I've attached two graphs showing the difference between 1.5 ohm and 51.5 ohm (close to the ME's ~45) output Z on a 500Hz square wave with the Grado HF-2.

It may be difficult to see at frist, but upon closer examination, we note the leading edges and peaks of the square waves are sharper, less blunted, and more delineated on the 1.5 ohm measurement. We also note that the 51.5 ohm measurement has more low amplitude swiggly stuff - the higher output Z amp will have a harder time controlling the driver in a precise way.
« Last Edit: March 25, 2013, 02:14:28 AM by purrin »
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Re: Meridian Explorer DAC/AMP Review
« Reply #34 on: March 25, 2013, 02:31:51 AM »

On an ending note: From the InnerFidelity data, I've noted most IEMs tend to have a rising impedance response (the UERM seems atypical) toward the treble. This means the ~45ohm output Z of the existing ME's will give these IEMs a little treble boost (if the overall IEM impedance is low enough.) This would be consistent with folks saying their IEMs sounded brighter out of the ME than the AQ Dragonfly. The only thing that can be gathered is high output Z = possibly inconsistent performance.

I just happened to pick a combo that which was a worse case scenario with the ME. It wasn't on purpose either. These things tend to happen with me.
« Last Edit: March 25, 2013, 02:49:36 AM by purrin »
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