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"Winning the Loudness Wars"
« on: November 24, 2012, 09:54:34 AM »

I found the following article by Stereophile quite interesting: http://www.stereophile.com/content/winning-loudness-wars

Of note to me was that music had 16dB of PLR during the 1982-1984 period vs. 9dB in the 2006-2009 period... Maybe the '80s were not that bad (relatively speaking.)

This is what I got from the article: TV (and possibly radio) are implementing Loudness Normalization through EBU R 128 and ITU-R BS.1770 (vs. Peak Normalization) across the board which may discourage it "during mastering". My best guess is that the article's assumption is that once the standards are in place, further compression (post-normalization) would sound awful and inconsistent (not 100% sure if that was the point though.) Another highlight seem to be that album normalization is preferred as it preserves the soft quality of certain songs.

I didn't quite understand why 11dB of PLR was great, or why -16, -23, or -14 LUFS/LKFS was the way to go in Loudness Normalization settings, but those numbers where thrown quite a bit.

My concern though is that TV and radio seem to use Peak Normalization according to the article, and I fear that the move to Loudness Normalization may not necessarily translate in recording studios moving to less aggressive compression of dynamic range.

I'm not very versed in this, so I'm very interested on more qualified opinions, corrections, and comments.



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Re: "Winning the Loudness Wars"
« Reply #1 on: November 24, 2012, 03:50:21 PM »

Don't have anything really to add, but wanted to thank you for posting the interesting read and it seems Karma is a useless mechanic on this site.

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Re: "Winning the Loudness Wars"
« Reply #2 on: November 24, 2012, 05:37:54 PM »

All answered here:


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Re: "Winning the Loudness Wars"
« Reply #3 on: November 25, 2012, 04:18:06 AM »

The article was a very interesting read, and I liked that they approached it from listener's perspective and not just the mastering side...

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Re: "Winning the Loudness Wars"
« Reply #4 on: November 25, 2012, 02:03:51 PM »

Good article. The TT Dynamic Range meter shows basically the same thing. The last time mainstream CDs measured DR10+ was 1992-3. Now they typically measure DR5-6, with some albums as little as 3-4. Those albums are known as "unlistenable". I've read that elsewhere, the idea that new broadcast standards will mean that more dynamic recordings will actually sound louder than the squashed to hell ones. I'll believe it when I see it, old habits die hard. I have been seeing DR creep up ever so slightly this year, to around DR7 or so, but with the typical master slamming into 0dBFS and clipping like hell, that still doesn't mean a good sounding record.
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Re: "Winning the Loudness Wars"
« Reply #5 on: November 25, 2012, 02:20:15 PM »

Yep, some of my albums have been personally neglected due to loudness peaks and clipping. When I still had my SRC2496 in use it would sometimes give the loudness warning and the red light would appear.
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