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Designing and building my own tube amp...
« on: September 23, 2012, 12:30:45 AM »

I've been thinking about doing this for a while now, just for fun and possibly to learn something too.  With those being the primary goals I'd like to do it on the cheap and hopefully still make something that sounds decent.

Is there anywhere to get decent quality power transformers and tube sockets without breaking the bank?  I've got no idea where to start with tube sockets besides buying from random ebay sellers (who mostly seem to based in China) with good feedback and hoping for the best.  For the power transformers, is there a better budget option than Hammond?

Also, while I have been reading up a bit on the theory behind tubes I don't know much at all about what's actually available on the market and for how much.  Since output transformers probably would break the bank I'll probably have to go OTL.  Right now I'm thinking something like paralleled cathode followers in hopes of a low-ish z-out but I don't even know how I should start looking for output tubes short of grabbing random data sheets and compiling all the relevant parameters into a spreadsheet or something.

Anyone got any ideas or am I asking too much?
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Re: Designing and building my own tube amp...
« Reply #1 on: September 23, 2012, 12:54:40 AM »

the CMC teflon tube sockets are usually pretty good.


I've no idea about the circuit part, but this project sounds like a lot of fun. Enjoy!
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Re: Designing and building my own tube amp...
« Reply #2 on: September 23, 2012, 01:34:35 AM »

The teflon is a bit pricey.

Plus if I mess something up and the socket gets too hot the teflon will out-gas some pretty nasty VOCs that will kill my pet bird pretty much instantly.

I've been looking for ceramic ones since they won't have that issue.
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Re: Designing and building my own tube amp...
« Reply #3 on: September 23, 2012, 02:46:19 AM »

here's some free reading - start with the "triode gain stage": http://www.valvewizard.co.uk/

another is Broskie's TubeCAD: http://www.tubecad.com/

Doug also has a lot of great stuff: http://www.ecpaudio.com/diy.shtml

Morgan Jones is generally considered to be "must reading", but focuses mostly on output TX designs.  for your purposes: http://search.barnesandnoble.com/Valve-Amplifiers-Morgan-Jones/e/9780750656948?sourceid=Q000000630&cm_mmc=Google%20Product%20Search-_-Q000000630-_-Valve-Amplifiers-Morgan-Jones-_-9780750656948&sourceid=Q000000633&cm_mmc=GooglePLA-_-Textbook-_-Q000000633-_-9780750656948&cm_mmca2=pla  

as far as tube sockets go, i like the Belton Micalex from TubeDepot.
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Re: Designing and building my own tube amp...
« Reply #4 on: September 23, 2012, 05:26:45 AM »

Thanks for the links.
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Re: Designing and building my own tube amp...
« Reply #5 on: September 23, 2012, 07:02:02 AM »

I was thinking of getting a Bottlehead Crack and messing about before starting from scratch.  Tyll had a nice article on it recently.  $279 gets you all in I believe.  I'm at the point in my life where it's not just bottom line costs but calculating my time as an opportunity cost as part of the whole equation. 
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Re: Designing and building my own tube amp...
« Reply #6 on: September 23, 2012, 07:06:54 AM »

+1 for micalex sockets, been using them too.You can find them slightly cheaper here.
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Re: Designing and building my own tube amp...
« Reply #7 on: September 23, 2012, 10:51:26 AM »

I was thinking of getting a Bottlehead Crack and messing about before starting from scratch.  Tyll had a nice article on it recently.  $279 gets you all in I believe.  I'm at the point in my life where it's not just bottom line costs but calculating my time as an opportunity cost as part of the whole equation.

The instructions are simultaneously wonderful and awful.  I put it together almost perfectly (electrically at least...) and didn't learn a damn thing.

+1 for micalex sockets, been using them too.You can find them slightly cheaper here.

Cool.  Sounds like a good bet then.
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Re: Designing and building my own tube amp...
« Reply #8 on: September 23, 2012, 11:38:47 AM »

Sounds like a lot of fun, maverick. I'd love to learn more about amp design when I get some time to devote to intellectual pursuits. Please keep us posted (and feel free to post about it in the diary). I'd be very keen on tracking your progress and maybe learning things vicariously as you go along.
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Re: Designing and building my own tube amp...
« Reply #9 on: September 23, 2012, 04:24:12 PM »

Sounds like a lot of fun, maverick. I'd love to learn more about amp design when I get some time to devote to intellectual pursuits. Please keep us posted (and feel free to post about it in the diary). I'd be very keen on tracking your progress and maybe learning things vicariously as you go along.

I think I'm just going to get a bunch of semi-random parts and start experimenting with them in some kind of modular/prototyping sort of way and see if I come up with anything interesting or useful.
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