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Re: Portable amps
« Reply #190 on: April 21, 2013, 10:42:47 AM »

Not as if UHA-6S mkII needs any lower gain. It's within center 33-66% with all IEMs I have - there's no appreciable channel imbalance. That's with or without eq (around -9 dBFS "average"). Of course with the low gain. You'd need a way hotter source than its DAC or analog output of most phones, MP3 players etc. to have to tweak the knob down a lot.

I'm not sure why my pot seems too easy to tweak accidentally. It can be turned with a single finger - so pocket friction tends to do that sometimes when it's in pants or jacket.

The DAC isn't much worse than ODAC actually - it's mostly hampered by the USB interface chip. It is very slightly worse if at all (I'd need an actual double blind test), definitely better than, say, FiiO E17 or Prodigy Cube - both based on Wolfson DAC chips. Not that ODAC with any reasonable amp would be pocketable... (You'd need to rework power supply too!)

I measured that with the ADA4898s, it loses ~20% battery life - making it still huge, way larger than FiiO E17. I'd estimate that OPA627 and AD797 it'd lose about the same amount. That's a 2x difference in opamp idle current at work. (~8mA vs ~16mA for a pair)
Takes more than a day to get discharged, unless you use SPDIF on battery, in which case it takes about 8h - both coax and optical. USB is on par with analog, bit shorter maybe.
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Re: Portable amps
« Reply #191 on: April 21, 2013, 10:55:44 PM »

Not as if UHA-6S mkII needs any lower gain. It's within center 33-66% with all IEMs I have - there's no appreciable channel imbalance. That's with or without eq (around -9 dBFS "average"). Of course with the low gain. You'd need a way hotter source than its DAC or analog output of most phones, MP3 players etc. to have to tweak the knob down a lot.

I'm not sure why my pot seems too easy to tweak accidentally. It can be turned with a single finger - so pocket friction tends to do that sometimes when it's in pants or jacket.

The DAC isn't much worse than ODAC actually - it's mostly hampered by the USB interface chip. It is very slightly worse if at all (I'd need an actual double blind test), definitely better than, say, FiiO E17 or Prodigy Cube - both based on Wolfson DAC chips. Not that ODAC with any reasonable amp would be pocketable... (You'd need to rework power supply too!)

I measured that with the ADA4898s, it loses ~20% battery life - making it still huge, way larger than FiiO E17. I'd estimate that OPA627 and AD797 it'd lose about the same amount. That's a 2x difference in opamp idle current at work. (~8mA vs ~16mA for a pair)
Takes more than a day to get discharged, unless you use SPDIF on battery, in which case it takes about 8h - both coax and optical. USB is on par with analog, bit shorter maybe.

about the DAC not being worse than ODAC, but USB chip etc... isn't that technically part of the D/A-Conversion process? :P or maybe you were thinking for SPDIF...
I will be using it strictly with USB in a powered hub, but if you find the sound to be almost as good as the ODAC with USB then that would be very promising. you have both to compare?
battery life sounds great - not sure what opamp to go with at all yet though.
thanks!
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Re: Portable amps
« Reply #192 on: May 16, 2013, 11:04:56 PM »

Just curious, does anyone know what the most powerful/best candidate for a portable amp to power a HE-6 on the go? I've owned it a couple of times now, and always end up underwhelmed by the performance on portable amps. For home listening I've driven it previously with the monster known as the Pioneer Reference Power Amplifier, which it sounds heavenly with - I just like having the option of taking my gear with me....

I know the HE-6 seems like a very silly choice keeping that in mind, but i just love the sound of it....  p:/ so what can you do...
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Re: Portable amps
« Reply #193 on: May 17, 2013, 02:02:17 AM »

The Trends Audio Special Edition Class T amp is a TINY 10 Watt amp but it is transportable...just had to call it out again because it is really cool and only $235.


jazzfan on HF has one that I have heard multiple times.  I know that is not on the go...

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Re: Portable amps
« Reply #194 on: May 17, 2013, 03:26:33 AM »

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Just curious, does anyone know what the most powerful/best candidate for a portable amp to power a HE-6 on the go? I've owned it a couple of times now, and always end up underwhelmed by the performance on portable amps. For home listening I've driven it previously with the monster known as the Pioneer Reference Power Amplifier, which it sounds heavenly with - I just like having the option of taking my gear with me....

I know the HE-6 seems like a very silly choice keeping that in mind, but i just love the sound of it....   so what can you do...

The Pico Power did an okay job with it and seemed to have enough gain without distorting, but I haven't really heard the HE-6 on other portable amps.
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Re: Portable amps
« Reply #195 on: May 17, 2013, 10:31:26 AM »

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Just curious, does anyone know what the most powerful/best candidate for a portable amp to power a HE-6 on the go? I've owned it a couple of times now, and always end up underwhelmed by the performance on portable amps. For home listening I've driven it previously with the monster known as the Pioneer Reference Power Amplifier, which it sounds heavenly with - I just like having the option of taking my gear with me....

I know the HE-6 seems like a very silly choice keeping that in mind, but i just love the sound of it....   so what can you do...

The Pico Power did an okay job with it and seemed to have enough gain without distorting, but I haven't really heard the HE-6 on other portable amps.

Hmm, interesting. I've used it with my ALO Rx Mk3b before, and it does a good job of driving it, but as one might expect it does lack some bottom end and a bit of detail when underpowered - even if not severely.
Wether the tuning or power output of the Pico Power is better suited I don't know, but will definitely give it a go if I get the chance :)
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Re: Portable amps
« Reply #196 on: May 31, 2013, 07:11:01 PM »

sort of random question but what's the best portable DAC out there that works with an iPad and a PC/Mac?
I'm a bit sad by having to downgrade from ODAC, if I go with the Leckerton route. but it just seems like a solid deal.
I'm skipping the earlier suggested FitEar 334, as I missed out on demoing them. but will likely get the hifiman RE-600, and a pair of gaming friendly headphones (ATH-AD900X) for home use.

OR maybe I'll try to make a battery pack for the ODAC as it's so tiny and cute, and get a separate amplifier.
which then would lead to... what to get? I really like the form factor and physical design (vol control is great) of the C5 but I didn't really get a sense of the sound quality...

always thought I'd never get a portable stack as they seem kind of dumb, but I figure this might be my most used setup so why not look into what's available!

all roads still lead to Leckerton? it would be quite noticeable from the iPad I am sure, but it'd be my only DAC until I decide whether to get STAX or not later on. :P
the CLAS just seems a bit expensive, I heard one and it's great but not 700 or however much it is great. fostex HP-P1 seems OK but not great either? is it even better than the Leckerton?

thanks again, and sorry for indecision.
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Re: Portable amps
« Reply #197 on: May 31, 2013, 07:24:43 PM »

sort of random question but what's the best portable DAC out there that works with an iPad and a PC/Mac?
I'm a bit sad by having to downgrade from ODAC, if I go with the Leckerton route. but it just seems like a solid deal.
I'm skipping the earlier suggested FitEar 334, as I missed out on demoing them. but will likely get the hifiman RE-600, and a pair of gaming friendly headphones (ATH-AD900X) for home use.

OR maybe I'll try to make a battery pack for the ODAC as it's so tiny and cute, and get a separate amplifier.
which then would lead to... what to get? I really like the form factor and physical design (vol control is great) of the C5 but I didn't really get a sense of the sound quality...

always thought I'd never get a portable stack as they seem kind of dumb, but I figure this might be my most used setup so why not look into what's available!

all roads still lead to Leckerton? it would be quite noticeable from the iPad I am sure, but it'd be my only DAC until I decide whether to get STAX or not later on. :P
the CLAS just seems a bit expensive, I heard one and it's great but not 700 or however much it is great. fostex HP-P1 seems OK but not great either? is it even better than the Leckerton?

thanks again, and sorry for indecision.

If you just need the DAC does the DACport LX work with the iPad and a CCK?
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Re: Portable amps
« Reply #198 on: May 31, 2013, 07:41:07 PM »

If you just need the DAC does the DACport LX work with the iPad and a CCK?

I am being told No by a quick google search, so I would assume not. the non-LX version I know for sure doesn't.
but would be nice if anyone could confirm.

thanks, it does seem very nice.
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Re: Portable amps
« Reply #199 on: May 31, 2013, 07:52:37 PM »

If you just need the DAC does the DACport LX work with the iPad and a CCK?

I am being told No by a quick google search, so I would assume not. the non-LX version I know for sure doesn't.
but would be nice if anyone could confirm.

thanks, it does seem very nice.

From HF http://www.head-fi.org/t/473473/review-more-to-come-centrance-dacport-24-96-usb-dac-amp/255#post_8519986 Ruins the portability.

"With iPad yes, but you will need to feed the USB (using a hub) with external power. You will also need the camera kit.
 
I have the LX and if I connect it directly it states that is using too much power :("

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