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Re: Movie Discussion Thread
« Reply #80 on: December 20, 2012, 07:34:18 AM »

I like what he says about asking questions and I agree, but in order to ask a question, you have to communicate a question.  If you ask someone a question in a language they don't understand, it's not a question, it's just a vague, uncommunicated idea that flops.  Maybe I will eat my words, but I watched this movie twice and I didn't feel like it was successful at communicating using the language of film.  It was just vague and obscured.  To me, that's not genius it's just lazy.  You could say that this reviewer was challenged to figure out a complex movie, or you could say he was piecing together plot points that were not communicated or developed.  Which is how I felt watching it, like I was watching the most beautiful rough draft ever made.  Or a film that was butchered by producers wanting to keep it short. 

Cool to see, his analysis seems like it was pretty close to the intent of the film.  Maybe we'll see a better director's cut at some point.

I did enjoy the movie in the end though just for the production value, cinematography, set design, etc.  It looked incredible. 
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Re: Movie Discussion Thread
« Reply #81 on: December 20, 2012, 03:52:23 PM »

I really don't understand why people were so upset about the creation thing or why they'd expect any character in the film to actually have such info presented to them in a tidy form.  Some friends I show good science fiction movies to just ask me questions all the time and it's maddening, like they have no imagination or interpretative ability.  And most of the questions are answered if you just keep watching the movie. 

I mostly agree with RD on the grounds that it just doesn't build any real pathos (for me at least), but was still worth checking out.  Like, I wasn't really confused by anything except maybe David giving the goo to whatshisname (firefox recognizes that as a word...), but nothing there and accessible felt interesting or consequential because I hated most of the characters and David (the only interesting one) felt underutilized.  I mean, I get that the Wayland corporation doesn't give a fuck and would probably hire disposable jackasses, but they didn't literally have to be Bulk and Skull, nor did almost everyone else have to be cardboard cutouts... and the monster designs sucked.  I can't even imagine what was going through their heads when they decided to have that dude turn into a generic tumor zombie in a franchise known for its creatures.
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Re: Movie Discussion Thread
« Reply #82 on: December 20, 2012, 07:47:55 PM »

Rock of Ages : 6/10. Enjoyable watch. Great music & cast.
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Re: Movie Discussion Thread
« Reply #83 on: December 21, 2012, 05:14:18 AM »

I agree the film did not communicate a sense of inquiry apart from the alien in the beginning.  However, I think the inquiry and dialogue was established w/ the first Alien movie.  Perhaps for some who have always been pondering, 'wtf?' from the very beginning had much less an issue w/ Prometheus.


Personally, I think his overall conclusion was a lazy answer, that they did it because they could.  I couldn't disagree more.  From the ritual suicide at the beginning, to the monolitihic faces, there is very definitely a religiously cultural component to the motivations of the aliens, at least in the beginning.  Seems like they made us to better understand themselves.  It's almost verging on BSG, "This has happened before and will happen again", let's honor the gods sort of thing.  My 2 cents. 
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Re: Movie Discussion Thread
« Reply #84 on: December 22, 2012, 12:21:58 AM »

Johnny Depp is a lucky SoB -

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Re: Movie Discussion Thread
« Reply #85 on: December 22, 2012, 12:34:33 AM »

Oh god yes, Amber Heard!  Droool...  She even comes w/ a girlfriend.  p;)  And all the French girls scream, "Zut Alors!"

You might want to watch 'The Informers'.  Just ignore the movie. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11lHeI6fq_0


 
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Re: Movie Discussion Thread
« Reply #86 on: December 23, 2012, 03:03:10 AM »

Just watched Blue Velvet, after holding off for so long. The subject matter pushed me away superficially, but ended up enjoying it quite a bit.

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Re: Movie Discussion Thread
« Reply #87 on: December 27, 2012, 01:45:27 PM »

I've soured on the LoTR movies over time. While it was great to see Middle Earth realised on screen, the liberties taken, poor pacing, and Jackson's overbearing direction makes those films virtually unwatchable now. I want to cleanse my memory of it, to remove the stain that mires the actual literary work.

I went in to The Hobbit expecting the same self indulgent Jackson shenanigans. I walked away impressed. It's not absolutely faithful to the material but I was swept along and very few things detracted from the engagement.

The film is gorgeous. I saw the standard 3D version (not HFR) and was engrossed by every frame. I'm not a fan of 3D but this may just be the best demonstration of it to date.

I loved the rendition of the dwarves. The depiction of their Kingdom at its peak, its demise and their trials to reclaim what was lost. Thorin Oakenshield is a bad ass.

The editing is also tighter than the other LoTR films, though some fat could have been trimmed.

Really enjoyed this one.
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Re: Movie Discussion Thread
« Reply #88 on: December 27, 2012, 10:01:18 PM »

We saw Jack Reacher last night.  It was "middle of the road" good.  I enjoyed it even with a few stretches that dragged.  There were a few good action sequences including some decent old school car chases.  The biggest struggle I had was believing Cruise in the Reacher role.  He pulled it off, sort of, but not well enough to get me REALLY into the movie. 

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Re: Movie Discussion Thread
« Reply #89 on: December 28, 2012, 03:16:24 AM »

Agreed on the Hobbit!  Saw it in 3D w/ HFR.

I hated LOTR stuff.  Don't even care for the story/books.  I came in expecting to hate the Hobbit, especially with it's kiddie centric trailers.  I only wanted to see HFR and leave tbh.

I got sucked in and swept away as you put it.  One of the best things I've ever seen put up on a big screen.  Makes me realize how much worse the LOTR movies actually were than I thought.  Hell if I won't being seeing the next two!

Django was awesome btw!

First ten minutes of Les Mis were quite poorly done IMO and everytime Crowe showed up thereafter was quite distracting.  Got much better and Anne Hathaway was unfreaking believable!!  She made the whole row I was in cry and snifle like wimpering babies.  That was awesome.
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