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HE-6 & LCD-3 comparison, give your thoughts what to improve
« on: September 03, 2015, 04:53:04 PM »
Hello!

I'm on a quest to decide my new headphone. And so far it seems like LCD-3 & HE-6 is what fulfills my needs the most. I recently got a Hegel H80 stereoamplifier, 75W @ 8Ohm to drive the HE-6. It dident amaze me much compared to the Mjolnir I got, which was kinda... Well I wasent expecting to get blown away so yeah. But it kinda left me wondering if I should bother with the hassle of a stereoamp. I mean its not very convenient.

My setup is:
Schiit Wyrd
Arcam irDAC
Schiit Mjolnir
Hegel H80
HE-Adapter for HE-6, with AudioQuest Rocket 44 cables.
Norne Solv X for Audeze
Lawton Pads for HE-6.

So far I found the LCD-3 to have really likeable imaging, or should I say seperation, which makes it sound more detailed, and to me more enjoyable. The music has more air. HE-6 is not far behind, but its a pretty easy difference to notice. HE-6 has tighter bass, LCD-3F sounds loose compared to it. I do find some siblance with the HE-6 which is annyoing, and as other people has mentioned, you do get kinda tired from the HE-6.
I also find them sounding a bit unnatural, kinda anemic for the lack of a better word.

Does anyone have any suggestions to make the HE-6 better?
With the Fuzzor mod I used a very thin felt, around 1-1,3mm thick. So it might work more as dampning then a actual fazor, lol.
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Re: HE-6 & LCD-3 comparison, give your thoughts what to improve
« Reply #1 on: September 03, 2015, 07:57:42 PM »
Wait, the LCD-3 has more air than the HE6? Somethings up in this setup. When I owned the HE6 it threw a massive stage (albeit wonky and diffused). I used a vintage Marantz 2285, Pioneer SX-1980 and a decked out Odyssey Stratos Plus at various stages, with similar results. The LCD's (both 2 and 3) were comparitively forward and a little suffocating. Not sure what's up here.
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Re: HE-6 & LCD-3 comparison, give your thoughts what to improve
« Reply #2 on: September 03, 2015, 08:05:29 PM »
As I mentioned, to me it sounds like LCD-3F has more airy sound, because of its imaging, cause it sounds like there's more "air" inbetween the sounds/instruments, better seperation. Accoustic music, the HE-6 does sound a little more airy tho, but not when there's more going on in the music.
The lawton angled pads did help improve this, so I maybe the Audeze pads, which are even thicker, well improve it even more.
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Re: HE-6 & LCD-3 comparison, give your thoughts what to improve
« Reply #3 on: September 03, 2015, 08:05:43 PM »
I don't remember if Mjolnir is considered enough power for the HE-6, but it used to be considered a great pairing with the LCD-3. I don't know what speaker amps bring to the HE-6 in terms of refinement and control. I think if you can try them both on something like Ragnarok, you can get a good idea of their differences on a level playing field.

Bring them both over to MA and you can use mine. :)
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Re: HE-6 & LCD-3 comparison, give your thoughts what to improve
« Reply #4 on: September 03, 2015, 08:39:15 PM »
Mjolnir is not considered a good pairing with the HE-6. It can play them loud enough, to around 98dB measured with my iphone (lol), but its not considered good.
Audeze on the other hand, its indeed excellent. Ive only had a Burson the conductor & Mjolnir, and the Mjolnir was far better, cause it brings the Audeze alive.
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Re: HE-6 & LCD-3 comparison, give your thoughts what to improve
« Reply #5 on: September 03, 2015, 08:42:36 PM »
Do my mods and don't use leather pads. Imaging comes from angled pads which the vegans are perfect for. Clemmaster already told you the H80 is not a good pairing.

Something is definitely wrong.
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Re: HE-6 & LCD-3 comparison, give your thoughts what to improve
« Reply #6 on: September 03, 2015, 09:19:13 PM »
How is the treble with your mod ohhgourami?
I'm a little treble shy, and I defently dont like the slight siblance I get.

Ive ordered a pair of leather free Audeze pads, I hope I get them next week so I can listen to the Doxa power amp, which I have high hopes for.
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Re: HE-6 & LCD-3 comparison, give your thoughts what to improve
« Reply #7 on: September 04, 2015, 12:04:23 AM »
Even the most treble shy on here (the majority) said my mods are very smooth.
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Re: HE-6 & LCD-3 comparison, give your thoughts what to improve
« Reply #8 on: September 04, 2015, 12:26:01 AM »
Quote from: Prydz on September 03, 2015, 08:39:15 PM
Mjolnir is not considered a good pairing with the HE-6. It can play them loud enough, to around 98dB measured with my iphone (lol), but its not considered good.
Audeze on the other hand, its indeed excellent. Ive only had a Burson the conductor & Mjolnir, and the Mjolnir was far better, cause it brings the Audeze alive.


A few posts on HF lately have said the Mjolnir can easily drive the HE-6, but I definitely agree with you. It will get them loud, but still limit them.
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Re: HE-6 & LCD-3 comparison, give your thoughts what to improve
« Reply #9 on: September 04, 2015, 12:29:05 AM »
I wouldn't touch a stock HE-6 on any amp I would consider decent.

With OhG or Clem mods, I'd find the HE6 on Mojo 2 (tubes) or even original Mojo quite difficult to beat for the price.
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