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Re: USB cleaner, purifiers, decrapifiers?
« Reply #30 on: August 22, 2015, 08:33:49 PM »

Depends on the DAC or SPDIF converter and how good or bad your USB setup is. If you're piping straight from a crappy desktop or laptop's built-in USB to a DAC/SPDIF converter that might be sensitive to USB signal quality, it should be more noticeable than, say, cable changes. Less so than tube changes, though. If your USB output and/or input are good or not sensitive to crappy signal, then any changes might not be noticeable at all. All depends on the hardware you're using it with, your hearing ability, and so on. And that's not to say changes will always be positive.

Then again, this is just based on my very limited experience with the Wyrd. It's not going to be an OMG change regardless...unless your USB output is THAT bad.
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Re: USB cleaner, purifiers, decrapifiers?
« Reply #31 on: August 22, 2015, 10:02:22 PM »

Depends on the DAC or SPDIF converter and how good or bad your USB setup is. If you're piping straight from a crappy desktop or laptop's built-in USB to a DAC/SPDIF converter that might be sensitive to USB signal quality, it should be more noticeable than, say, cable changes. Less so than tube changes, though. If your USB output and/or input are good or not sensitive to crappy signal, then any changes might not be noticeable at all. All depends on the hardware you're using it with, your hearing ability, and so on. And that's not to say changes will always be positive.

Then again, this is just based on my very limited experience with the Wyrd. It's not going to be an OMG change regardless...unless your USB output is THAT bad.


Sorry, I should have been more specific. I was wondering what the level of improvement is for firev1, since he was able to measure some improvement.
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Re: USB cleaner, purifiers, decrapifiers?
« Reply #32 on: August 23, 2015, 06:45:43 AM »

For this particular scenario its a slight difference rather than OMG but you don't have to listen critically to find it. Just makes the ODAC less strident on top and more relaxed sounding, before that I would usually find the ODAC a fatiguing listen at times.
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Re: USB cleaner, purifiers, decrapifiers?
« Reply #35 on: August 24, 2015, 06:18:56 PM »

computeraudiophile might be worst then headfi, take with a grain of salt
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Re: USB cleaner, purifiers, decrapifiers?
« Reply #36 on: August 25, 2015, 10:26:30 PM »

Here's what Ted Smith of PS Audio wrote about the Uptone Regen:

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The prototype PS Engineering asked me to audition removes this limitation, allowing cable lengths of hundreds of meters and, in one setup, miles. Clearly, what I used was not entirely similar to the Jitterbug and other isolators and signal regenerators, though close enough I bring the entire group into the discussion. What are the isolation and regeneration devices I first mentioned? Our Ted Smith explains:

The Regen is trying to generate a USB signal that’s clean enough that the DAC’s USB PHY (the PHYsical layer, the part that drives and receives the signals over the wire) doesn’t have to “work as hard” and hence doesn’t add as much noise to the power supply.  To go at higher and higher speeds it takes more signal conditioning.  These days many PHYs dynamically change their parameters to better send and receive signals and using those features can use significant current.  The Regen tries to take on the work (with the resultant changing current draws and resultant noise) on the input side so the DAC’s PHY doesn’t have to and then the Regen sends a much more consistent quality signal so that the DAC doesn’t make noise in itself trying to accommodate a signal that’s changing quality.

Like jitter it’s another way that a relatively little known effect can end up being manifest noise.

http://www.psaudio.com/pauls-posts/bugs-uptones-and-regens/
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Re: USB cleaner, purifiers, decrapifiers?
« Reply #38 on: August 27, 2015, 01:44:06 PM »

Is that two Jitterbugs and a Regen? WTF...
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Re: USB cleaner, purifiers, decrapifiers?
« Reply #39 on: August 29, 2015, 10:51:42 PM »

I have a tiny bit of static noise in my system. Should I get the Schiit Wyrd?
Or any other?
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