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iBasso DX100 Impressions
« on: May 05, 2012, 09:12:00 AM »

Loaner DX100 v1.1.0
Tested w/ 16/44 and 24/96 wav.
Phones: UE IERM

 
User experience:
Noise from manipulating the screen and track selection.  Sounds like my tracks are being electrocuted or a moth is flying into a zapper each time I select a new track.  Other random noises.  The screen is annoying, keeps rotating and has delay finding right orientation. Cuts off the first half second of the track when skipping to another one.

 
HO
Serious solid state glare and bite to treble and sibilance.  Where's the resolution?  Sounds grainy throughout.  Decently wide and spacious.  Good separation, not resolving, wavs sound like mp3s.  Present bass but some percussion/drums sounds plastic.  Rough, dry and crispy signature. Timbre isn't right in the low end,  cymbals are tizzy, a lot of the spectrum off.  Hmm, is Harry Nilsson playing a guitar or a harp?  Los Lobos sounds like they use Ukuleles rather than guitars too. This is going to be fatiguing, have to switch to LO asap.

 
LO > UHA6S (OPA209)
Grain and glare mostly gone, still a bit of spitty sibilance in the vocals, must be the DAC.  Right away more micro detail exposing the track (background noise, clicks and pops from analog tape masters for example), more air and layers.  No fake detail from boosting treble or thinning a signature.  Cymbals and treble still seems a bit mechanical but less tizzy.  Bass timbre is more correct, percussion sounds right, drums are organic and natural.  Ah, Chet Baker is fixed, not hollow or nasal anymore. Trumpet, Sax, Piano, double bass all sound largely correct for the most part.  Harry Nilsson's vocals sound richer and natural w/ more detail.  His guitar is back along w/ Los Lobos.  Note weight to strings restored, reverb in the instrument's body, proper string plucking is evident and sounds real.  Smooth resolution.  Notes trail away and decay naturally and fully extend instead of being rough, curt samples.  The first 10 seconds of Kool and Gang's Ladies Night gives it all way between the stock amp and the Leckerton.  Natural, accurate percussion, proper cymbal timbre on the high hat and crash w/ even natural ringing and trailing decay; clear, clean vocals, horns and clap machine.  Done.

 
I think the 801 is a more resolving DAC despite it's darker signature.  801 original stock amp is still one of the worst I’ve ever heard even compared to the dx100 but it's still bad IMO.

 
Just went back to my Nokia > UHA6S to A/B.  I'm done w/ the iBasso DX100.  I won't be listening to it anymore until some magical firmware fixes everything.  Unfortunately, after going back to my normal setup the iBasso's hi-rez DAP sounds more like an mp3 factory.

 
+   built extremely well, very pretty.
_   sounds best feeding optical to my UHA6S
« Last Edit: May 05, 2012, 09:13:49 AM by Analixus »
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Re: iBasso DX100 Impressions
« Reply #1 on: May 05, 2012, 12:58:57 PM »

Two questions: Was it brand new? Did you make sure the EQ was off? It has been known to switch itself on with all settings maxed. Both could be to blame for the harshness. If you're used to old-school DACs too, that wont help either.
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Re: iBasso DX100 Impressions
« Reply #2 on: May 05, 2012, 01:25:07 PM »

Off topic and as said, itching to get a hold of one of those Leckertons...
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Re: iBasso DX100 Impressions
« Reply #3 on: May 05, 2012, 05:39:03 PM »

Where's the EQ?  I don't see it anywhere, no app and nothing in settings.


Edit - Powered on this morning and Music app (particle.media) stopped working; Force close. :'(
« Last Edit: May 05, 2012, 06:00:42 PM by Analixus »
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Re: iBasso DX100 Impressions
« Reply #4 on: May 05, 2012, 05:57:23 PM »

The DX100 sounded powerful with good control, but the solid-state glare and grain thing was an issue for me. The unit sounded better warmed up than cold. The UI needs some serious work.
« Last Edit: May 05, 2012, 05:59:30 PM by purrin »
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Re: iBasso DX100 Impressions
« Reply #5 on: May 05, 2012, 11:55:06 PM »

The DX100 sounded powerful with good control, but the solid-state glare and grain thing was an issue for me. The unit sounded better warmed up than cold. The UI needs some serious work.

The EQ can be found if you tap the left (menu) button while in the music app. Yeah, the UI is shocking. I don't like Android and even less badly written apps. Installing GOLauncher and power management widgets seems to help things.

Funnily enough, before I read this thread last night I was listening with it and the L3 and it did sound as you describe. The "warmed up" bit might explain things though -- I leave mine on and plugged in overnight and it is warm in the morning. It sounds quite harsh when new though too, possibly the result of all the caps crammed into the case.
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Re: iBasso DX100 Impressions
« Reply #6 on: July 03, 2012, 06:45:53 AM »

I've had a DX100 for 2 weeks now. I think most of the issues of noise and solid state glare have been fixed with the firmware updates, because I'm not experiencing the same as Anaxilus. Mine has quiet operation and tremendous sound. I had my sound engineer friend come over to give it a listen. He's extremely sensitive to treble and prefers his Hifiman HM-801 sound signature to the DX100 but he also said the DX100 sounded more resolving with greater transients. I concur with his opinion.

There are still a few bugs in the firmware and the music application crashes for me as well, but due to the sound I'm willing to live with those bugs while iBasso roll out more FW updates.
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Re: iBasso DX100 Impressions
« Reply #7 on: July 03, 2012, 06:53:13 AM »

What phones are you using?  LO or HO on both?
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Re: iBasso DX100 Impressions
« Reply #8 on: July 03, 2012, 05:14:44 PM »

What phones are you using?  LO or HO on both?

LCD-2's, HE-500's, Thunderpants, Westone 4's, Beyerdynamic DT770's. Headphone out from both. I sold my portable amps due to a lack of use.

DT770's were especially horrendous through the HM-801 but fine through my laptop headphone out and DX100 headphone out. I think probably due to the silly output impedance on the HM-801. Westone 4's also sound great through DX100 but hard to get right through HM-801, mostly due to the analog potentiometer putting the channels out of balance.

Apparently iBasso is releasing yet another firmware update next week to help prevent the Music application crashing. I'm loving how often these updates are. Hifiman updates were few and far between. Also, the 10 year warranty from iBasso is what finally got me to pull the trigger. Nice to see a warranty for an audio product for more than a year or two. For me it show's that the company has confidence in the product and that my investment will be protected.
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Re: iBasso DX100 Impressions
« Reply #9 on: December 09, 2012, 05:34:02 PM »

No updates after the last couple of firmware upgrades around here.  So the impressions provided here are not current and for an old setup, FYI.
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