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Re: Stereophile and decay
« Reply #10 on: May 02, 2012, 04:13:55 PM »

Hmmm these speakers don't look as clean as I thought they'd be.  It would be cool to see how your Mackies measure Luis!  I bet they're squeeky clean.

I had them measured a long time ago when I got them. They were measured at my university's anechoic room. They measured almost perfectly flat. Mackie claims they are supposed to measure flat but I thought that was bull. Turns out....it's not. Other people who have done measurements in the same fashion have achieved the same results. The trick with flat speakers is placement and room treatment.
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Re: Stereophile and decay
« Reply #11 on: May 02, 2012, 04:53:18 PM »

That's good to hear. 

I think the other thing about flat speakers though, or at least according to my experience with the Mackies, is that when they themselves are so flat and clean, you have a lot of leeway for error in the room.  If a speaker starts out with a bump or resonance somewhere, I imagine it might not take much to push that bump into uncomfortable territory (if it isn't already).  But I have never had my Mackies in treated rooms and they always sound a bit different (I've heard them in a lot of rooms...) but they always sound good, they never sound like they've got anything seriously wrong.  Worst case, I tweak the acoustic space settings on the back a bit. 

I thing it's the same with flat, clean headphones and different recordings/gear.  With flat headphones you have more leeway for bad recordings or less than ideal gear. 
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Re: Stereophile and decay
« Reply #12 on: May 02, 2012, 05:01:25 PM »

That's good to hear. 

I think the other thing about flat speakers though, or at least according to my experience with the Mackies, is that when they themselves are so flat and clean, you have a lot of leeway for error in the room.  If a speaker starts out with a bump or resonance somewhere, I imagine it might not take much to push that bump into uncomfortable territory (if it isn't already).  But I have never had my Mackies in treated rooms and they always sound a bit different (I've heard them in a lot of rooms...) but they always sound good, they never sound like they've got anything seriously wrong.  Worst case, I tweak the acoustic space settings on the back a bit. 

I thing it's the same with flat, clean headphones and different recordings/gear.  With flat headphones you have more leeway for bad recordings or less than ideal gear.

Agreed. That's why placement and room treatment is critical. FWIW...I have had the exact same experience when using them in different rooms. That's also one of the main reasons I started taking headphones with me as well.  ;)
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Re: Stereophile and decay
« Reply #13 on: May 03, 2012, 10:06:27 AM »

His section is really the only part of their reviews I usually read.  This one's crazy:

http://www.stereophile.com/content/zanden-5000-mkivsignature-da-converter-2000-premium-cd-transport-measurements

It's fascinating to read the listening comments the page after the measurements.
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