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Author Topic: Purrin's DAC Chart of Awesomeness.  (Read 55399 times)

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Re: Purrin's DAC Chart of Awesomeness.
« Reply #60 on: June 12, 2015, 01:57:28 AM »

Can't speak to others, but a midrange veil on a DAC would be an instant no-go for me. I don't think I've ever recommended a DAC with such a character.
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Re: Purrin's DAC Chart of Awesomeness.
« Reply #61 on: June 12, 2015, 02:03:57 AM »

Can't speak to others, but a midrange veil on a DAC would be an instant no-go for me. I don't think I've ever recommended a DAC with such a character.

Think dull cloud of fuzzy smoke and shit. At least with iFi Nano.

The iFi house sound could end up being one of those "beyond classification" things for some people.

Most likely "beyond redemption". We are a tough crowd here. zdfx gave me his iFi under the condition that I eventually burn it and make a youtube video.
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Re: Purrin's DAC Chart of Awesomeness.
« Reply #62 on: June 12, 2015, 02:10:05 AM »

Can't speak to others, but a midrange veil on a DAC would be an instant no-go for me. I don't think I've ever recommended a DAC with such a character.

Think dull cloud of fuzzy smoke and shit. At least with iFi Nano.

Most likely "beyond redemption". We are a tough crowd here. zdfx gave me his iFi under the condition that I eventually burn it and make a youtube video.

No worries, I'm aware of the honesty here and appreciate it.  I'm admittedly lacking experience with much higher end DACs beyond ~$1000 so it's a gradual process to learn my preferences.  For instance, I didn't immediately notice the midrange veil until comparing it to the others.  And I just found the well powered Modi to have a more natural texture and timbre to the sound, although it does have it's nitpicks that are expected at the price point.
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Re: Purrin's DAC Chart of Awesomeness.
« Reply #63 on: June 12, 2015, 02:22:23 AM »

That's not to say anything about what may be enjoyable to anyone. I think most of us just try to be more objective about our subjective impressions/preferences. For example, I once liked the Eximus as a DAC in a weird euphonic sort of way, Marv hated it. Neither of us would recommend it. Marv liked a particular Luxman DAC and I hated it. Neither of us would recommend it. The problem is we don't want to open up a can of worms where personal subjective preference just makes a mess of audio impressions. Then you start saying everything sounds good because there might be someone somewhere that likes it. Thus nobody can trust or figure out where you are coming from. This is called 'The Guttenberg Effect'.
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Re: Purrin's DAC Chart of Awesomeness.
« Reply #64 on: June 12, 2015, 02:37:15 AM »

That's not to say anything about what may be enjoyable to anyone. I think most of us just try to be more objective about our subjective impressions/preferences. For example, I once liked the Eximus as a DAC in a weird euphonic sort of way, Marv hated it. Neither of us would recommend it. Marv liked a particular Luxman DAC and I hated it. Neither of us would recommend it. The problem is we don't want to open up a can of worms where personal subjective preference just makes a mess of audio impressions. Then you start saying everything sounds good because there might be someone somewhere that likes it. Thus nobody can trust or figure out where you are coming from. This is called 'The Guttenberg Effect'.

Certainly makes sense.  It's why I try to provide as much context as possible when I'm making observations, and why I tend to value the opinions here.  I may not always share the same preferences, but I can at least get a good idea of observations by their context and the listeners experience.
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Re: Purrin's DAC Chart of Awesomeness.
« Reply #65 on: June 12, 2015, 02:45:04 AM »

 :)p17
That's not to say anything about what may be enjoyable to anyone. I think most of us just try to be more objective about our subjective impressions/preferences. For example, I once liked the Eximus as a DAC in a weird euphonic sort of way, Marv hated it. Neither of us would recommend it. Marv liked a particular Luxman DAC and I hated it. Neither of us would recommend it. The problem is we don't want to open up a can of worms where personal subjective preference just makes a mess of audio impressions. Then you start saying everything sounds good because there might be someone somewhere that likes it. Thus nobody can trust or figure out where you are coming from. This is called 'The Guttenberg Effect'.
Agreed. Also we don't take others likes or dislikes personally. If we don't  agree we try to find out why. Of course when Anax disagrees with me I just smile and nod my head, knowing I right.  :)p17 this is called the  " poo effect "

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Re: Purrin's DAC Chart of Awesomeness.
« Reply #66 on: June 12, 2015, 05:07:37 AM »

Apologies if I'm blind but is the Geek Pulse on here? Where does it sit?
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Re: Purrin's DAC Chart of Awesomeness.
« Reply #67 on: June 12, 2015, 05:23:35 AM »

Apologies if I'm blind but is the Geek Pulse on here? Where does it sit?

Currently waiting on a LPS to make a proper comprehensive evaluation. A few have heard the XFI at Canjam driving the Liquid Carbon at Alex's table on that Sunday. Suffice to say, it was brought as a replacement for the Chord Hugo and it did a commendable job according to everyone that heard it. My understanding is that LH has had to resort to slave labor to supply enough LPSs to meet demand.
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Re: Purrin's DAC Chart of Awesomeness.
« Reply #68 on: June 12, 2015, 12:27:09 PM »

+1 Excellent Resource!

I'm guessing my AGD DAC19-DSP sits somewhere between the Octave and Quad (using an OR5 via Coax).

Has anyone heard a Pre-Released Schiit G-2 yet? (The Yggy might be a slight overkill for my HD-650's but I'm sure I'd enjoy it all the same). 

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Re: Purrin's DAC Chart of Awesomeness.
« Reply #69 on: June 12, 2015, 01:29:02 PM »

I wonder where my SFD-2 (not SFD-1) MKII SE+ with NOS Telefunken E188CC tubes would be placed on that DAC chart. It doesn't sound particularly warm or gooey, and I personally found it more resolving than the MSB Analog DAC with a wider soundstage.
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