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Re: Mackie MR5 mk3s
« Reply #20 on: June 04, 2015, 06:06:02 PM »

Broad elevation there seems to persist regardless. Won't sound bad, but should be noticeable compared to flatter-er references
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Re: Mackie MR5 mk3s
« Reply #21 on: June 04, 2015, 06:21:42 PM »

Well... when I did the measurements at different angles I did not move the speaker, just the mic.

The speaker was on a table and I know the speaker interacts with the table in that frequency region (based on what I got when monkeying around with the speaker location around the table). I'll do more measurements later to show what I mean. As you noticed, these are not horrible aberrations, but do matter. So placement matters quite a bit if you want ruler flatness.

BTW, on the original post measurements I don't see the 5k extra energy on the "left" measurement (that one was done on a different table location).

A fair assesment would be on speaker stands.
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Re: Mackie MR5 mk3s
« Reply #22 on: June 04, 2015, 08:00:27 PM »

is it wooden table? i always use like felt/cotton/fabric/polyester blankets of reasonable thickness on my table due to standing wave issues and so forth. it does make a huge difference. there is a lot more interactions with the furniture and room then lot people think. if for measuring a lone stands might help if it's well away from the table but it still might interact in a way. it just depends on different types of factors in the matter.

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Re: Mackie MR5 mk3s
« Reply #23 on: June 04, 2015, 08:11:48 PM »

Yup. Its a solid wood and bare table.  I just got a set of stands and a mic tripod. Wiffey wanted me to get stands anyway. Will measure with those next.

My floors are also solid laminate which does a wonderful job at reflecting sound. Probably will still be somewhat close to furniture.

Still, I have a feeling that proper stands will improve things. Things are not that horrible anyway. Me ears likes. I proly can get a flattitude level 36 achievement with proper care, and if I can get the most of these monitors while keeping things visually pleasant, I'm happy.
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Re: Mackie MR5 mk3s
« Reply #24 on: June 05, 2015, 05:29:02 AM »

Ok. Here is Table vs Stand. Stand does seem to help with the 5 khz hump there:



Red: Table / Blue: Stand

And here is 0 vs 45 degree (in the stand):



Red: 45 deg / Blue: 0 deg

Not bad IMO.
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Re: Mackie MR5 mk3s
« Reply #25 on: June 15, 2015, 06:26:24 AM »

Alright, have settled this in my bedroom where they may have found a long term residence. After trimming the highs by -2dB (switch in the back of the speakers) this is what I get in my bedroom.

They get brighter and boomier in my room perhaps due to it being small. But not too bad IMO after the trimming adjustment:



Here are JBL305s measurements from nonaudiophile for comparison purposes:

 

Now what I needs is a subs. Thinking about HSU. Perhaps just another Pioneer since this is on a second floor and furniture resonates and starts introducing distortion that I know is not coming from the speakers.

As far as the boominess, I could partially block the ports to reduce it, but so far it doesn't bother me much. Maybe later.
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Re: Mackie MR5 mk3s
« Reply #26 on: June 16, 2015, 04:14:44 PM »

Well, plugging the port solved the boom problem and made things flat. Unfortunately the port is also a vent for the amp and it the plate starts to get warm if the port is obstructed. Manual also says to stay away from the port and let it breathe.

Before this, I only had speakers that did not go below 100 Hz on small rooms. Finding out how things get fudged up below 100 Hz on small rooms even with a 5" studio monitor. No wonder speakers like the Revel Salon 2 sounded like utter crap at T.H.E. show.

Might have to get an equalizer since eventually I might get a sub there. Thinking of something commesurable to the investment. Say maybe a one of those Behringer Ultragraph thingies that include subwoofer cross-over for $150... Any ideas guys?
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Re: Mackie MR5 mk3s
« Reply #27 on: September 21, 2015, 03:39:26 AM »

So I got a MiniDSP which fixes things pretty neatly (BTW the miniDSP thingy works pretty good). However, went back to Guitar Center w wife and she ended up liking more the JBL305 styling.

A problem with these Mackies is that they don't play very loud. The JBLs do. Furthermore, off axis response might be better with the JBLs.

So, OJ and folks were right. I might be JBL305 dude. Might have to put these on sale, but don't have the boxes. Therefore might have to go local.

These are not bad at all though. Second bestest on what I heard @ Guitar Center around the same price.
« Last Edit: September 21, 2015, 03:57:52 AM by ultrabike »
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