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Re: America is Bad
« Reply #30 on: March 09, 2015, 06:24:04 AM »

I understand. So was my Dad. Hellcat pilot. Wonder I'm still alive.  :-0

Hellcat's are pretty cool! Did he ever get a Corsair? Mine was jarhead at Pearl Harbor and Korea.
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Re: America is Bad
« Reply #31 on: March 09, 2015, 02:31:32 PM »

He got checked out on the  Corsair, then they stayed with the Hellcat. I got to see a Hellcat  back at the Air and Space Museum in D.C. Still a very cool looking plane. He always wanted to get into a P-51 but never got the chance. He was also stationed at Pearl, but got out when the War ended.
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Re: America is Bad
« Reply #32 on: March 10, 2015, 09:22:59 PM »

The P-51D was the best fighter of the war. Awesome plane... my favorite.

...and the students are still idiots, BTW. Seriously, I understand that people go through evolutions of thinking as they age and gain experience. I just don't understand how universities don't have this stuff under check by now because it's been around and recirculating for so long. It's a predictable, but wrong, stance that many kids take. It hurts, destroys, leads to ruined societies and violence, yet they seem to think it's in the name of safety and peace that there should be no allegiance. Perhaps they need to be taught the reality that anarchy creates a power void that the most assertive and strong fill. If you don't believe that might makes right, then stand behind a country that has their head on about human rights (like the USA). Imperfection exists but is fixed through proactive corrective action, not turning your back on the problem.

OK... vented.
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Re: America is Bad
« Reply #33 on: March 11, 2015, 10:11:24 AM »

The P-51D was the best fighter of the war. Awesome plane... my favorite.

...and the students are still idiots, BTW. Seriously, I understand that people go through evolutions of thinking as they age and gain experience. I just don't understand how universities don't have this stuff under check by now because it's been around and recirculating for so long. It's a predictable, but wrong, stance that many kids take. It hurts, destroys, leads to ruined societies and violence, yet they seem to think it's in the name of safety and peace that there should be no allegiance. Perhaps they need to be taught the reality that anarchy creates a power void that the most assertive and strong fill. If you don't believe that might makes right, then stand behind a country that has their head on about human rights (like the USA). Imperfection exists but is fixed through proactive corrective action, not turning your back on the problem.

OK... vented.

As a kid I was obsessed with W.W.II and the military strategies used. Military strategy and philosophy is an overlooked part of our culture in my opinion. I consider the P51 Mustang one of the best designed fighter planes ever. I love the history, design and how from a development project it became a bad-ass Rolls-Royce powered super propellor fighter plane.

I am now sort of part of a student movement. I agree with their ideals. I disagree with their approach sometimes. 
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Re: America is Bad
« Reply #34 on: March 11, 2015, 02:52:57 PM »

I am now sort of part of a student movement. I agree with their ideals. I disagree with their approach sometimes.
Let me ask you a question about that. First, a primer: while in my early twenties I recognized and even voiced my likelihood to be emotionally manipulated by people with strong positions and strong supporting arguments. Because of that recognition (and the criticism that came from voicing my recognition of that reality) I kept my opinions to myself on issues where I didn't have a strong principled foundation and an obvious connection between the principle and the issue. This was a decade ago.

Recognizing your reservations about your movement, my question to you is this: does your activism/movement feel diplomatically right, if a bit unrefined, or does it just feel cool to be part of something you mostly believe in which is trying to exert itself with strength?
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Re: America is Bad
« Reply #35 on: March 11, 2015, 04:30:55 PM »


Recognizing your reservations about your movement, my question to you is this: does your activism/movement feel diplomatically right, if a bit unrefined, or does it just feel cool to be part of something you mostly believe in which is trying to exert itself with strength?


"Cool" does not apply. "Diplomatically right" also does not apply. In the Netherlands the students of today are facing bureaucratic institutions that stifle the input and feedback from students. Yes things can be worse yet the fact that investments and budget cuts tend to hit faculties directly while the "persons in charge" walk away scot free is beyond tolerable.

I have personally been through this and the stress and mismanagement have scarred me for life. When educational institutions forget that their core mission is to provide for their "students" serious issues are a matter of time. In the Netherlands issues tend to get "sweeped under the rug" by higher ups in a gradual way. Look up "SIS", "HvA" and how millions of Euros and thousands of students were sacrificed for the ego of selfish managers.

When I choose sides it is long-term and serious. I prefer to remain polite but am willing to be politically incorrect. I am firstly involved based on personal principle. Without principles I am no better than the worms in the earth. Sorry for my somewhat long-winded response, there are many things at stake for the future generations.     
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Re: America is Bad
« Reply #36 on: July 08, 2015, 01:08:12 AM »

Keep in mind these are the same "underrepresented" and "oppressed" minorities who have no problem taking thousands of dollars of federal aid and subsidized loans to attend a public UC school

To get back to music:

Some folks are born, made to wave the flag
Ooo, their red, white and blue
And when the band plays "Hail to the Chief"
Ooo, they point the cannon at you, Lord
It ain't me, it ain't me, I ain't no senator's son, son
It ain't me, it ain't me, I ain't no fortunate one, no
Some folks are born, silver spoon in hand
Lord, don't they help themselves, y'all
But when the taxman comes to the door
Lord, the house looks like a rummage sale, yeah


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