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Philips Cityscape Uptown
« on: December 24, 2014, 03:50:34 PM »

This is one of the cheaper Philips headphones that is now discontinued but still available (end 2014).
The headphone in question is called Philips 'Cityscape Uptown' type number: SHL5905xx/10.
It's MSRP is $ 130.- but the street-price (end 2014) is a lot lower.



It is intended for portable usage and available in 3 colour themes. Silver with brown headband (SHL5905GY/10), all black (SHL5905FB/10) and as shown above black with brown pads and headband (SHL5905BK/10).

These headphones have a tangle free flat silicone cord with a remote control in it. The earlier models also had a (very buggy) volume control + pause button + mic. The later models only had a mic and remote control. These are intended for usage with i-stuff, Blackbarry, HTC and LG. There is also short conversion cable so it can be used with Motorola, Nokia, Samsung, Palm and Sony-Ericson as well. For the North American market there seems to be a version with a different driver as well.
The SHL5905BK/28 appears to have the same looks but differs in specs and driver materials.

The SHL5905 is a fully closed headphone with soft pleather (fake leather) pads and has a quite decent attenuation of ambient sounds and no leakage of sound to its surroundings.
It has a dynamic 40mm ∅ driver using a neodynium magnet. The 30Ω driver coil is made from Copper Cladded Aluminium Wire and the mylar dome has a 103dB/mW efficiency and 30mW power rating. At 30mW input power it reaches about 118dB SPL which is very loud !
The 1.2m long flat and tangle free OFC cable has a 3-ring 3.5mm angled goldplated connector and is low in mircrophonics ! The headphone only weighs 260 grams (9.2 oz) and has a pleasant 5N clamping force.
The pads are very soft and provide a good seal but as the whole system is closed can get your ears hot and sweaty.
The in-line volume control is 'scratchy', fails quickly and has substantial L-R balance issues...

The stock sound is tuned for the younger on the go generation. Thus... firm bass (too firm to be called Hi-Fi) and very laid back in the mids. Those mids are somewhat recessed. The treble is peaky with a hint of coarseness. The voices have an overly 'warm' tilt to it. The SHL9505 sounds decent with crappy low bitrate MP3's as the upper mids (where most 'harshness' in crappy music resides) are attenuated significantly.
For Hi-Fi usage the headphone is too bassy/flabby and slightly 'honky' and not very 'open/clear' sounding. Treble is decent, not very grainy or overly smooth.
The plot below is 1/24th oct. smoothed.



The frequency response shows how it sounds (disregard the dip around 80Hz, a measurement thing). plenty bass and rolled off mids so 'warm' amd far from accurate but pleasant for crappy low bitrate popular music. The treble is present and extends pretty well. The sharp dips are partly pad and partly test rig related.



CSD shows some resonating at lower frequencies which I think explains the slight hollow sound. Treble is a shows a lot of ringing yet doesn't sound really bad.

Fortunately this headphone is very eay to modify and this is described here:
http://www.mediafire.com/view/cv5wevv94gpajrj/Philips_Cityscape_Uptown_SHL9505_modifications.pdf
Once modified it really sounds very good to my ears and is a clear step up from Superlux HD681-H D681-EVO models as well as lots of other headphones.
No.. its not THE best headphone around but it does sound FAR beyond its price point.. even when bought at MSRP and including modding materials.

Below is what the modified SHL9505 looks like. .



It measures a lot better once modified as shown below:
This plot is smoothed 1/6 octave so it 'looks' a little better  :)p17



and CSD....



As said... modded it performs well above it's pricepoint and has become my favorite portable headphone (no amp needed for this one)
I can't RECOMMEND this headphone highly enough. Get it quick before its out of the online stores.. if you are in for some easy mods that is otherwise ... stay away !
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Re: Philips Cityscape Uptown
« Reply #1 on: December 24, 2014, 04:16:30 PM »

Awesome job on the PDF guide --- brownie points!

Do you prefer these modded Up Towns to the M50?
Also curious as to how they compare to Philips own Fidelio L1 / L2 which I'm fond of.
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Re: Philips Cityscape Uptown
« Reply #2 on: December 24, 2014, 04:27:09 PM »

I have not yet heard / measured the L1/L2 but did (shortly) own the SHP9500, X1 and A5Pro.

When I run into the L2 at a decent 2nd hand price I will try them.
Philips makes some decent drivers, its just the packaging  :P
I have to admit that is improving the last few years but so is the pricing  :(

I owned the old M50 which I did not like at all, not enough clarity and far too bassy for me.
I liked the M40X(owned) better which appears to be a slightly less bassy and less refined version.

Strangely enough, and even though, the X1 measures better I MUCH prefer the sound of this modified cheap Philips.
Of course taste has something to do with it.

I like bass that is somewhat north of truly flat, a flat midrange to treble, nice extension and smooth yet articulate highs.
Also I like to hear the small details which it does.
On direct comparison with the better headphones it becomes obvious the mids are a bit too 'clear' yet when you just listen to it, it doesn't stand out in a negative way.

I prefer this modded one over the X1, A5 pro and SHP9500 (which is a bit bass-shy)
« Last Edit: February 08, 2015, 09:21:11 AM by Solderdude »
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Re: Philips Cityscape Uptown
« Reply #3 on: December 24, 2014, 04:28:36 PM »

Great post, mods and results. Cudos to you.
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Re: Philips Cityscape Uptown
« Reply #4 on: December 24, 2014, 06:30:34 PM »

Sorry, you can't repeat a karma action without waiting 1 hours.  :)p17

You didn`t modded then, you did a miracle to then!
Unfortunatly they`re quite expensive here, will be looking for a sale ... althought just for curiosity have you checked the downtown?
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Re: Philips Cityscape Uptown
« Reply #5 on: December 24, 2014, 06:32:38 PM »

this is awesome, but I consider myself more of a "philips citiscape downtown" kind of guy... can you whip something up for that too?
kidding.

glad to see some life to be made out of these, and freaking cheap too.

do the change in pads affect attenuation / leakage much?
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Re: Philips Cityscape Uptown
« Reply #6 on: December 24, 2014, 06:44:56 PM »

this is awesome, but I consider myself more of a "philips citiscape downtown" kind of guy... can you whip something up for that too?

I remember trying the downtown in a shop somewhere and really liking it. Granted it was a noisy shop condition, but it was comfy and sounded decent, and for the $40 or whatever at the time, if I had that in my pocket I would have bought it just to futz around with. I'd be really curious to see some measurements on it.
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Re: Philips Cityscape Uptown
« Reply #7 on: December 24, 2014, 07:17:00 PM »

I'd be really curious to see some measurements on it.
Here, sadly they have non-replaceable pads so modding them would be a PITA.
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Re: Philips Cityscape Uptown
« Reply #8 on: December 25, 2014, 08:17:18 AM »

What c61746961 said plus the fact that in general I don't buy on-ears because, on some occasions, I need to wear reading glasses as well....
I am willing to put up with an EQ'ed DT1350 (not very comfortable) because of certain properties it has but that's about it on-ear wise.
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Re: Philips Cityscape Uptown
« Reply #9 on: December 27, 2014, 07:30:25 PM »

Can you by any chance compare these to HM5/FA-003/whathaveyou? Also would these be worth the ~100e it takes to get and mod those cans here in Europe?
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