Hey guys, I saw this pop up in my email just now: https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/saygus-v-squared#/story
Skepticism about the audio features aside, the storage being offered is impressive and the rest of the feature set is at least par for the course if not better. I have doubts about the performance of the chipset in it and build quality but it looks like it might be worth the money. What do you guys think about it?

Hey guys, I saw this pop up in my email just now: https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/saygus-v-squared#/story
Skepticism about the audio features aside, the storage being offered is impressive and the rest of the feature set is at least par for the course if not better. I have doubts about the performance of the chipset in it and build quality but it looks like it might be worth the money. What do you guys think about it?

Eh. Nice storage I guess... but otherwise, what's the big deal? Also, my guess is that the screen will be absolute shit.

Apparently the Zenphone2 has major battery life problems due to the way the screen refreshes. Most, but not all, apps are coded to work with x86 either, so not everything in the Play store will necessarily run on it. The materials Asus opted for also scratch REALLY easily. Ultimately I think the OnePlus is still the sub $300 phone to beat, especially running CM12S.

IMO these "bang for buck" spec phones like saygus and 1+1 seem great until, after using one, you realize that a significant portion of making a good phone (or any consumer electronics device) comes from the hardware/software integration.

In other words throwing a bunch of chips in a box and getting it to work is relatively easy compared to getting it to work well.

In regards to the OnePlus, I know at launch CM11S was not really that ready for prime time, but CM continually pushed out updates, and from what I've read, CM12S works pretty well. Oxygen OS I'm less familiar with.

In my experience, the worst hardware/software experience is usually a carrier branded, bootloader locked phone, like those sold by VZW and AT&T, whether its a $700 flagship or a midrange model. There's almost always bloat galore slowing down the phone, serious functionality problems like the seemingly never ending line of AT&T Samsung Galaxies and Notes that can't find their ass from a hole in the ground because the GPS never works for some reason, software updates that land months and months after unbranded world phones get their updates due to incompetent carrier "testing," (and when the updates are finally delivered, many are so beyond borked that you have to wonder just what the F they were doing for all those months) and while you can usually at least root and get rid of trash like carrier branded, paid navigation apps, you can forget about loading CM or ParanoidAndroid thanks to the locked boot loader because the carrier thinks you're too stupid to be allowed to use the phone you just paid for.

Compared to that, I'll take a OnePlus One all day long.

Yet another reason to not buy a carrier branded locked phone, this time much more serious than the typical bloatware and buggy, late updates. If you have an AT&T or VZW (and most likely Sprint as well) Galaxy with this particular Samsung built Swiftkey keyboard, good luck waiting for your carrier to push out an update.

T-mobile users can at least change roms because T-mobile doesn't mandate locked bootloaders, but the unbranded world phones can be patched as soon as Samsung has an update.

http://time.com/3925962/samsung-galaxy-edge-hacking-s4-s5-s6-security-cyberattack-keyboard/