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Pioneer launches U-05 High-End USB-DAC/Headphone Amplifier
« on: November 27, 2014, 11:24:53 AM »

This has been launched in Europe not sure if its available in the US yet though. waiting for dealers to get stock and a listen
Understand the retail price will be Euro 900

A true high-end device, designed to extract the best possible sound quality from computer based audio systems, cleverly combined with a ground-breaking headphone amplifier. Please meet the Pioneer U-05...
 

U-05-S

The all-new Pioneer U-05, which weighs a hefty 6.3 kilograms and is built in solid aluminium, is a no-compromise USB-DAC that is able to play regular PCM signals with a resolution up to 32 bits/384 kHz. It also handles 2.8 MHz and 5.6 MHz DSD-files. The dual Sabre 8-channel DAC is configured for left/right parallel use, while a high precision master clock circuit makes sure jitter and noise have no chance to distort the signal.

Furthermore, the Hi-Bit 32 function is able to requantize incoming 16 and 24 bits signals to 32 bits quality, while the upsampling function allows raising the sampling frequency up to 384 kHz. The U-05 even allows narrowing the DAC locking range at will. This way, collateral sounds and disturbing overtones can be reduced, further raising the quality of the signal.

Filtering
The digital filter section has three user selectable settings for PCM signals and three for DSD type signals. This makes it easy for the user to tune the sound character of the U-05 to his own preferences. There is also a Direct function, which bypasses the DSP section entirely.

Input Section
The new Pioneer U-05 is not just a USB-DAC. It also has two optical (SPDIF) digital inputs, two coaxial (SPDIF) digital inputs and even an XLR (AES/EBU) input. This way, several digital sources can be connected to the U-05, such as CD players or network audio players. All of these inputs accept PCM signals up to 24 bits/192 kHz. The USB-input handles signals up to 32 bits/384 kHz and is also compatible with 2.8/5.6 MHz DSD-files.

 

U-05-S

Headphone Amplifier
The amplifier section is fully balanced and uses a shielded power transformer with anti-vibration structure, making sure the audio quality is top notch. The XLR-terminals on the front – a set of 3-pin terminals and a single 4-pin terminal – make sure that every headphone, regardless of the architecture and the wiring, can be connected. A full size jack terminal is available as well.

The gain selector (low/high) on the front panel makes sure that almost any headphone system on the market, with a resistance ranging from 16 to 600 Ohms, can be smoothly driven by the U-05. The amplifier delivers 2 x 180mW (32Ω), over the jack port, and even 2 x 300mW (32Ω) when the XLR ports are used. In order to set the volume precisely as needed, the U-05 is equipped with a Fine Adjust rotary knob, which sits next to the regular volume dial. The Fine Adjust setting is also available on the remote.

Pre-amplifier
The U-05 can also be deployed as a traditional, high-end pre-amplifier with volume control, using the balanced XLR-outputs or the unbalanced cinch outputs. An easy-to-use infrared remote control is included.


 
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Re: Pioneer launches U-05 High-End USB-DAC/Headphone Amplifier
« Reply #1 on: November 27, 2014, 03:16:48 PM »

I'm all for the major electronics manufacturers getting involved in the market.
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Re: Pioneer launches U-05 High-End USB-DAC/Headphone Amplifier
« Reply #2 on: November 27, 2014, 05:18:38 PM »

Can one of the technically-knowledgeable people cast a critical eye over the claims/spec?  What's the hype to reality ratio?

I ask because there are one or two things that ring my alarm bells, but I am nowhere near knowledgeable enough to  know if they are false alarms or not.

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the Hi-Bit 32 function is able to requantize incoming 16 and 24 bits signals to 32 bits quality, while the upsampling function allows raising the sampling frequency up to 384 kHz. The U-05 even allows narrowing the DAC locking range at will. This way, collateral sounds and disturbing overtones can be reduced, further raising the quality of the signal.

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Re: Pioneer launches U-05 High-End USB-DAC/Headphone Amplifier
« Reply #3 on: November 27, 2014, 09:13:23 PM »

Can one of the technically-knowledgeable people cast a critical eye over the claims/spec?  What's the hype to reality ratio?

I ask because there are one or two things that ring my alarm bells, but I am nowhere near knowledgeable enough to  know if they are false alarms or not.

 ???

Don't feel bad. I felt retarded reading that passage too. Just didn't seem to make sense to me. Pioneer use to be good brand for the mass market but nowadays....I just leave it at that.

Who knows, this might end up being the god of all dacs. Someone will eventually review it. Me personally, Im not spending 900 bucks on that thing.
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Re: Pioneer launches U-05 High-End USB-DAC/Headphone Amplifier
« Reply #4 on: November 28, 2014, 03:56:30 AM »

Pretty much same as Oppo's HA-1, except Oppo has far stronger headphone output, LCD and Pioneer has 3-pin Xlrs.
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Re: Pioneer launches U-05 High-End USB-DAC/Headphone Amplifier
« Reply #5 on: November 28, 2014, 07:36:56 AM »

That 900 euro price doesn't taste that sweet. A similar product from Marantz costs around 600 - 700. But yeah, now only Yamaha needs to dip its toes.
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Re: Pioneer launches U-05 High-End USB-DAC/Headphone Amplifier
« Reply #6 on: November 28, 2014, 09:27:33 AM »

Design kind of reminds me of Fostex. Any relation?
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Re: Pioneer launches U-05 High-End USB-DAC/Headphone Amplifier
« Reply #7 on: November 28, 2014, 06:41:35 PM »

Don't feel bad. I felt retarded reading that passage too. Just didn't seem to make sense to me. Pioneer use to be good brand for the mass market but nowadays....I just leave it at that.

Who knows, this might end up being the god of all dacs. Someone will eventually review it. Me personally, Im not spending 900 bucks on that thing.


The trouble is that, in this word, the fact that the marketing men have covered something in pure bollocks doesn't mean that it is a bad product. But still, given a choice, I'd rather deal with a low-bullshit-level company. I'm allergic to it  :)).

I remember Pioneer being quite desirable. Then I seem to remember that people stopped buying their hifi kit, but went on buying their car units. I'm going back decades here, and I don't know what happened after that.
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Re: Pioneer launches U-05 High-End USB-DAC/Headphone Amplifier
« Reply #8 on: November 30, 2014, 04:00:37 AM »

Can one of the technically-knowledgeable people cast a critical eye over the claims/spec?  What's the hype to reality ratio?

I ask because there are one or two things that ring my alarm bells, but I am nowhere near knowledgeable enough to  know if they are false alarms or not.

 ???

Who knows. For all I know it could be an awesome DAC/Amp. That said...

Upsampling to 384kHz usually requires an interpolation filter whose characteristics depend on the original signal rate.

Re-quantization is a term I think I've heard in image compression, but in this case it makes little sense. My best guess is that they are doing digital filtering with 32 bits to compensate for filter precision, but who knows. It's worded weird.

Not sure what they mean with narrowing the DAC locking rage. However, usually once clock has been acquired, the loop gains can be narrowed to reduce jitter. This is dealt with in FW or HW depending on implementation details (if it's done at all).

Anyhow. Again, could be an awesome piece of equipment.

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Re: Pioneer launches U-05 High-End USB-DAC/Headphone Amplifier
« Reply #9 on: November 30, 2014, 06:28:19 AM »

Very little technical knowledge other than textbooks. But if I understand taking a 16 bit file to 32 bits is done by adding dither. Just additional bits with no information. Then during processing the added bits are eliminated. But you should get a resolution of 16 bits, which the best DAC or CD player can't produce without this process.

Still don't have a good handle on upsampling  the file to 384 KHz. My completely subject impressions have been that a larger word length seems to add much more than the sample rate. MMMV.
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