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Re: Open T50RP
« Reply #20 on: December 02, 2014, 09:03:04 PM »

Is that freq response adjusted for HRTF?

I greatly admire your work by the way. Keep it up. :money:
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Re: Open T50RP
« Reply #21 on: December 03, 2014, 04:31:52 PM »

Since I am not doing in-ear measurements,  I am not using any compensation.  I am using a rig that was inspired by Solderdude's. Pic is enclosed. I kind of 'calibrated' my rig with measurements that Solderdude did of my headphones on his rig and checked if my rig produced the same results.

As for the pads, I am experimenting on some pad mod at the moment. Measurements seem very promising  but I want to do some further tests before I post more about it.
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Re: Open T50RP
« Reply #22 on: December 16, 2014, 05:03:24 PM »

I was just finishing up the CAD for a laser-cut can design for the t50rp driver when I came across this post... and now you've got me thinking that changing my design might be for the better!

Is the baffle in your open mod solid or porous?

Like... For example... Here is a screen cap of my vectors (closed can):
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Below the main structures are the alternates for an open can:
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Also... What made you choose that enclosure? Are there any physical dimensions (besides the walls of the cans which you mentioned earlier) that are particularly conducive to better audio quality?

Great post, by the way!
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Re: Open T50RP
« Reply #23 on: December 16, 2014, 05:47:24 PM »

I just used some enclosures I had lying around. The baffle is solid wood, without any vent or port. I am using a modded pad, though. It seems to work with the closed T50RPs too.
Recently I bought a used Mayflower T50RP, which sounded and measured horrible btw. I left the damping untouched, just applied my pad and the attached pic shows how it measures compared to my open T50.

Yellow is open T50, red is closed Mayflower. Both setups use the 'StratoPad'.




 
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Re: Open T50RP
« Reply #24 on: December 16, 2014, 05:57:09 PM »

Wow... That is incredible.

I guess I have to look into pads a bit more.

I was looking at these for the sake of ridiculousness and comfort... but if the sound quality is changed that much, something more specific and open might just be the way.

Did you notice a significant change in clarity/imaging/sound stage between the open t50rp and the mayflower with the same pads?
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Re: Open T50RP
« Reply #25 on: December 16, 2014, 06:07:10 PM »

It is a  Mayflower V2, which normally comes with some velour pads. But my set came with the HM5 leather pads of the Mayflower V3 and it measured like this...
Picture 2 compares Mayflower V2 (red), Mayflower plus Alpha Pads (purple) and Mayflower with HM5 velour pads.
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Re: Open T50RP
« Reply #26 on: December 16, 2014, 06:10:11 PM »

I just used some enclosures I had lying around. The baffle is solid wood, without any vent or port. I am using a modded pad, though. It seems to work with the closed T50RPs too.
Recently I bought a used Mayflower T50RP, which sounded and measured horrible btw. I left the damping untouched, just applied my pad and the attached pic shows how it measures compared to my open T50.

Yellow is open T50, red is closed Mayflower. Both setups use the 'StratoPad'.

That's pretty awesome, so all that has to be done is to tame the honk at 1 KHz with some damping and install a pair of stratopads, huh?

Following the business philosophy around headphone forums you should be charging $500 for the pads alone :boom:
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Re: Open T50RP
« Reply #27 on: December 16, 2014, 06:19:28 PM »

Did you notice a significant change in clarity/imaging/sound stage between the open t50rp and the mayflower with the same pads?

Actually they sound pretty much the same. The closed ones have a little more energy in the mids and are a tad less balanced. I will have to look into that and see if this can be dealt with by changing the damping.
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Re: Open T50RP
« Reply #28 on: December 16, 2014, 06:26:40 PM »

Is your last iteration based on the HM5 pleathers?
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Re: Open T50RP
« Reply #29 on: December 16, 2014, 06:31:24 PM »

Ok. I guess acrylic is cheap, so I will just have a set of open backs and closed backs cut, and I can play with it from there.

I am really surprised to see the graph of the mayflowers with the alpha pads... those pads are so highly regarded... but that FR curve is practically sporadic in comparison to the measurements from your custom pads before.

Do you plan on parting with the secrets to your pad mod?  8)
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