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riker1384

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Re: Open T50RP
« Reply #10 on: November 25, 2014, 12:08:33 AM »

So, since there's a whole industry of modded closed T50RPs, any chance that someone will sell something like this?

Although, after mods, done in small quantities, it could end up in HD600 price territory. Does it have any advantages over those?
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Re: Open T50RP
« Reply #11 on: November 25, 2014, 06:35:15 AM »

So, since there's a whole industry of modded closed T50RPs, any chance that someone will sell something like this?
Although, after mods, done in small quantities, it could end up in HD600 price territory. Does it have any advantages over those?
In my opinion there is nothing you can  recommend  as unequivocally as a (used) HD600. In fact it has been my reference headphone for quite some time now and I always find myself trying to tune my headphones to its sound signature. As for an open T50, there are hours and hours of work involved and I doubt - if you do that on a small scale - that they could be sold as cheap as a (used) Hd600. Sonically my open T50RPs are a step ahead of my HD600, comfort is better with the Senns though.
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Re: Open T50RP
« Reply #12 on: November 25, 2014, 03:04:16 PM »

You have to dampen the driver quite tightly. I used a layer of felt, topped with some damping paper and another layer of foam that keeps the damping felt/paper pressed against the driver.
The pads are essential. I have been testing pads extensively, and as all of you know the pads make a huge difference. Those who say this isn't so should see the wildly different frequency response plots when you swap pads (see attached pic of alpha pads on the same setup)  I always start with pad rolling to see which pad has the best potential for the driver. The secret is synergy. Synergy between driver plus pads plus enclosure. Damping will do the rest of what is possible within this combination.


I would of just used some fiberfill/pillow stuffing with combination of open cell foam if something really needed to be in the cups. Don't want too much density ehen working with open baffles/cups. Foam factory is great place to get different types of foam at different densities.

But how you did it worked out fantastic as well so, you know...


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Re: Open T50RP
« Reply #13 on: November 25, 2014, 03:26:15 PM »

That is impressive.
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Re: Open T50RP
« Reply #14 on: November 25, 2014, 06:31:15 PM »

Strato: Have you tried these pads with a closed mod?
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Re: Open T50RP
« Reply #15 on: November 25, 2014, 06:53:29 PM »

Strato: Have you tried these pads with a closed mod?
Yes I did, I am enclosing a quick comparison of the FR curves. The closed version was not bad, and I am sure that one could straighten out the FR curve of the closed version with some effort. It's just that I wanted to try an open setup.
I am really curious about measurements of the Fostex T500RPs  ...
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Re: Open T50RP
« Reply #16 on: November 25, 2014, 07:00:15 PM »

Thanks, looks like these pads are a great match with the T50RP.
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Re: Open T50RP
« Reply #17 on: November 27, 2014, 09:35:50 PM »

Very nice work! Ishcabible was trying to help someone in Boston (?) with a similar project. Both of us thought it was pretty unlikely to sound decent. What damping scheme did you go for?

I can't wait till Marv or Tyll measures TH500RP and puts that thread out of its solitary misery.

The problem with the configuration was that the guy making the cups was adamant about using really thin cups so I couldn't really damp them at all. He's planning on using thicker cups from now on to let me experiment, and hopefully it turns out this well!
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Re: Open T50RP
« Reply #18 on: November 30, 2014, 07:48:31 PM »

Just 'opened up' my Ebony T50RPs. Using modified HM5 pleather pads this time, overlay enclosed. Makes me wonder why I hadn't thought of that modding move earlier...



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Re: Open T50RP
« Reply #19 on: December 02, 2014, 07:34:29 PM »

Wow, what did you do to those pads?
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