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Author Topic: AKG 7XX (Massdrop) Measurement and Succinct Review  (Read 53797 times)

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Re: AKG 7XXX (Massdrop) Measurement and Succinct Review
« Reply #220 on: December 30, 2014, 12:08:11 PM »

A month and 6 days later, I get these in India. Thankfully zero customs duty. Driving them off the GO 720. Early impressions are very good. To my hearing these sound like a slightly darker version of the HD 600. Need to get some balanced cable for this. Is this possible?
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Re: AKG 7XXX (Massdrop) Measurement and Succinct Review
« Reply #221 on: December 30, 2014, 06:12:45 PM »

I find them very different from the HD600.

HD600 have more low-mids ooomph, more upper treble, more details, sounds more refined, but the AKG has a bit more bass extension as well as grainy / energetic high-mids which makes them funnier and not as laid back as the Senn's (especially on voices).
Oh, and soundstage : chamber music for the Senn's, wide but very left / right oriented on the AKG.

My 2 cents, grain of salt, YMMV, and so on.

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Re: AKG 7XXX (Massdrop) Measurement and Succinct Review
« Reply #222 on: December 30, 2014, 06:42:54 PM »

A month and 6 days later, I get these in India. Thankfully zero customs duty. Driving them off the GO 720. Early impressions are very good. To my hearing these sound like a slightly darker version of the HD 600. Need to get some balanced cable for this. Is this possible?

You gotta mod the connector to be mini 4-pin XLR I think.
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Re: AKG 7XXX (Massdrop) Measurement and Succinct Review
« Reply #223 on: January 05, 2015, 07:59:30 PM »

I find them very different from the HD600.

Oh for sure, I was not meaning to imply the 7xxx and 600 are close in sound, and I generally agree about the comparative sounds. I am still trying to see if 7xxx will earn a spot on the desk (instead of the drawer).
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Re: AKG 7XXX (Massdrop) Measurement and Succinct Review
« Reply #224 on: January 07, 2015, 03:30:19 PM »

I got them last week and I have to say I like them very much... I am driving them with the ASGARD 2 and a Bifrost. I am new to the mid-fi headphone world so I do not have a lot of ability to compare like others on this forum.

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Re: AKG 7XXX (Massdrop) Measurement and Succinct Review
« Reply #225 on: January 13, 2015, 11:33:16 PM »

Is anyone experiencing the flapping noise (not rattle) due to cone breakup at higher volume with frequencies below 50Hz?


 

I've only seen it mention by a few people. One was able to produce it with a O2 on 2.5x gain at 3 o'clock while another got it to breakup with a uDAC-2 at 1-2 o'clock. The uDAC-2 is only putting out 20-25mW at those volumes. Is it acceptable for a HP to distort due to cone breakup at such a low power input? Why do people on headfi keep saying AKG headphones need a powerful amp if it can't seem to handle more than 20mW?

I just tried my K7XX with my motherboard headphone jack, the only low power amp I have, and noticed the flapping noise caused by cone breakup at 82% volume. I was using a 30hz test tone in audacity with amplitude at the default value of 0.8 to prevent clipping. I then tried my Audio Technica m50 and it didn't have the flapping noise even at 100% volume. The m50 is more sensitive than the K7XX since it was louder than the K7XX at 82%. The flapping noise on the K7XX seems to happen up to around 55hz. Has anyone noticed this problem? Can you guys try to test your K7XX to see if it's a design flaw or are some just defective?

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Re: AKG 7XXX (Massdrop) Measurement and Succinct Review
« Reply #226 on: January 14, 2015, 12:17:42 AM »

How loud? (I have no idea what 82% or 100% is in audacity or 3 O'clock on O2 without knowing output voltage of source). How do you know it's 20mW? Can you measure with a DMM with a steady state 30Hz on the headphones? Most importantly, are you testing or actually listening to music when the flub-flub happens? The K7XX driver isn't that big. 30Hz test tones tend to do a lot of screwy things to headphones with small drivers, e.g. Grado.

Your AT has a huge advantage in that the driver is sealed. Open-back headphones need to work harder (more excursion) to maintain same bass level.

Ppl says K series needs amp because they sound kind of dead from an iPhone and also because they are less efficient compared to Grado, AT, Denon, Fostex (dynamic) 'phones.

If the K7XX performs fine while listening to music, I wouldn't worry about it.
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Re: AKG 7XXX (Massdrop) Measurement and Succinct Review
« Reply #227 on: January 14, 2015, 12:28:07 AM »

I'll try to check it out later today, But don't think I've heard flapping noises so far... Will check it out.
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Re: AKG 7XXX (Massdrop) Measurement and Succinct Review
« Reply #228 on: January 14, 2015, 12:53:36 AM »

How loud? (I have no idea what 82% or 100% is in audacity or 3 O'clock on O2 without knowing output voltage of source). How do you know it's 20mW? Can you measure with a DMM with a steady state 30Hz on the headphones? Most importantly, are you testing or actually listening to music when the flub-flub happens? The K7XX driver isn't that big. 30Hz test tones tend to do a lot of screwy things to headphones with small drivers, e.g. Grado.

Your AT has a huge advantage in that the driver is sealed. Open-back headphones need to work harder (more excursion) to maintain same bass level.

Ppl says K series needs amp because they sound kind of dead from an iPhone and also because they are less efficient compared to Grado, AT, Denon, Fostex (dynamic) 'phones.

If the K7XX performs fine while listening to music, I wouldn't worry about it.

The person with the uDAC-2 said it was measuring 1.1V with a 60 ohm load at the volume that caused the flapping sound. The problem goes away when the frequency is a little above 50hz.
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Re: AKG 7XXX (Massdrop) Measurement and Succinct Review
« Reply #229 on: January 14, 2015, 01:00:24 AM »

The person with the uDAC-2 said it was measuring 1.1V with a 60 ohm load at the volume that caused the flapping sound. The problem goes away when the frequency is a little above 50hz.

Thanks for the info... Will see... Might also be able to get SPL at those levels...
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