Topic: CanJam at RMAF Impressions (Read 10545 times)

thune · « **Reply #60 on:** October 17, 2014, 05:55:35 AM »

Maxvla,
Nice impressions. I'm even more upset now that I didn't find a slot to listen to the Linkwitz LXmini. I felt the LX521 sounded much better last year with the Pass electronics (as opposed to this year's Emotiva): more control and less hash.

Maxvla · « **Reply #61 on:** October 17, 2014, 06:03:17 AM »

Don't put much stock in my speaker impressions. This was the first time I've listened to so many different types of speakers. My expectations for speakers are also not very stringent. I'm not interested in setting up absorbers and traps and crap in my living room. Speakers, for me, are mostly for convenience, or when I just want a break from headphones, not for high level listening.

OJneg · « **Reply #62 on:** October 17, 2014, 06:13:29 AM »

Dipole bass really is something else isn't it? You bring up a point about the localization, you just don't get that with a lot of ported/sealed cabinets.

DaveBSC · « **Reply #63 on:** October 17, 2014, 06:35:23 AM »

Quote from: Maxvla on October 17, 2014, 06:03:17 AM

Don't put much stock in my speaker impressions. This was the first time I've listened to so many different types of speakers. My expectations for speakers are also not very stringent. I'm not interested in setting up absorbers and traps and crap in my living room. Speakers, for me, are mostly for convenience, or when I just want a break from headphones, not for high level listening.

Great impressions, thanks for all of that work. Curious, did you run across Fritz? Salks are decent, but IMO Philharmonic does it better for less. A lot of the money for a Salk goes into cabinet finishes, which are admittedly very nice, but you're paying for it for sure.

Emerald Physics haven't measured up to the prodigious amount of hype out there, at least IME. Audio Kinesis horns may not have that OB bass, but they are much more pleasant to listen to than any EP I've heard, and do a pretty good job of limiting wall interactions that would require a lot of treatment.

Maxvla · « **Reply #64 on:** October 17, 2014, 06:51:03 AM »

Don't recall seeing that name, but perhaps I did and didn't notice. First time touring the whole of speakerland so there were a lot of unfamiliar names.

Even if the cabinet finish is where a lot of money is going, the sound of the Songtower RT was worth the price. I liked them better than the Soundscape 8 he had on the other side of the suite.

Yes, the Emerald Physics were pretty terrible overall, but that dipole bass experience was noteworthy.

Eric_C · « **Reply #65 on:** October 17, 2014, 07:29:55 AM »

Very informative. Totally appreciate posts like this, super helpful for people who can't attend meets (like me).

Thujone · « **Reply #66 on:** October 17, 2014, 12:21:06 PM »

Great impressions all around.

Looks like I'm going to have to save for the Yggy/Rag.

thegunner100 · « **Reply #67 on:** October 17, 2014, 02:45:40 PM »

Thanks for the impressions!

Wish I could go to RMAF one of these days

. A ragnarok/yggdrasil setup would be pretty end-game for me.

MisterRogers · « **Reply #68 on:** October 17, 2014, 05:48:27 PM »

A few more thoughts on Rag/Yaggy.

As mentioned, I sat down in front of the stack right out the gate. Jason and the Schiit crew were still setting up their booth, sorting out streaming issues, etc. I started in listening. After about 5min, Jason walked up with a bit of a smirk. He said something like 'well?'.

I sat there with a big grin, struggling to find the words to frame what I was hearing. It was tough, because it was a new experience for me. After a few seconds too long, I mumbled something about attack, decay, clean edges, delineation, yada yada. Some of you that know me understand that I'm obsessed with DAC's. I came to the conclusion years ago that nothing 'downstream' matters nearly as much as the DAC, So I embarked on 'book learnin', forum reading and experimentation in fine, nauseating detail. I've swapped dozens of PS's in/out of my 'bench' DAC's. I've played with every shunt I can get my hands on, pre-regs, LDO's, different LDO chips, battery, the subtle tonality changes that can come with different caps in the PS. Wiring - from U.FL to soft annealed silver with cotton dielectric in the output stage... well you get the idea.

What I was hearing was new to me. Whole notes. No digital hash, no plasticky sheen, no decay that's not quite right. In the wholeness of the notes, I could hear into them - between them. Space, air - and as a fellow pirate mentioned, texture. In the end, Yaggy will not be perfect - I love tech audio because the brightest of us always figure out how to improve things. Regardless - Yaggy V1 represents a significant step in digital to analog conversion.

Sitting here listening to Rag fed by my uber bench DAC - driving HE-560's; I know my UberDAC's days are numbered.

Marvey · « **Reply #69 on:** October 17, 2014, 06:05:20 PM »

It's funny because the results of all the tweaking in the world with VCXOs, boutique caps, regulators, etc. are insignificant compared to the fundamentals of solid design. I doubt we will see a single "boutique" part on the Yggy, but instead just a bunch of surface mount components.

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