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Re: Pyrate Leaderboard
« Reply #90 on: October 04, 2014, 07:45:55 PM »

I'd choose the Senn Momentum over the NAD50. Similar-ish sound, but far far better comfort with the Momentums (over-ear) which makes more of a difference than people give credit for.
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Re: Pyrate Leaderboard
« Reply #91 on: October 04, 2014, 08:02:43 PM »

I have both RE400 and Tenore and use each sometimes, but I don't think either makes the cut.
« Last Edit: October 05, 2014, 09:16:27 AM by Claritas »
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Re: Pyrate Leaderboard
« Reply #92 on: October 04, 2014, 08:09:30 PM »

Not sold on the K702 or anything similar (K712 and 812 don't look much better). Distortion is a problem at high volumes = low-fi sound. Upper-mid/treble coloration, especially a peak I heard around 2KHz, killed it for me. Now, AKG has a ton of entirely different headphones, so I can only speak for these sort of headphones they put out.

Momentum to me was just weird sounding. Couldn't get a good fit from an over-ear or on-ear perspective.
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Re: Pyrate Leaderboard
« Reply #93 on: October 04, 2014, 08:15:13 PM »

IIRC, I've heard the K701, K702, Q701, K812. Meet or show demos, never long listening sessions (I wouldn't last very long anyway). All the newer ones I've tried have an obvious coloration in the upper mids, as Thujone mentioned. From what I understand the K712 is no better in that regard. Masking a certain coloration with extra bass/warmth? Not leaderboard material in my book. If we want to be that leniant with what we put on our Wall of Fame, certain modded Grados would be a better choice.

The K712 is better in that regard. The 701s bass was meh and not all that tight, the 712's is (slightly) better for the context of the headphone. Tonally, the 601/612 is still less offensive than the 7s. Still a damn good headphone for gaming.
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Re: Pyrate Leaderboard
« Reply #94 on: October 04, 2014, 08:16:14 PM »

LOL... I mentioned once that I would rather add K712 Pro than DT880 (and that I suspect there may be better choices than K712 Pro, at the same time) and tons of posts about how AKGs suck follows  :D Funny!
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Re: Pyrate Leaderboard
« Reply #95 on: October 04, 2014, 08:31:04 PM »

Got some time with a coworker's Valhalla 2 last week. Holy moly, one heck of an HD800 amp at the price point
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Re: Pyrate Leaderboard
« Reply #96 on: October 04, 2014, 08:53:46 PM »

What about the RE-400?

Wow, yours sounds brighter than the pairs I had heard.  You think the balanced output of your source is helping that?

Never felt the RE1 or RE262 to have too much trouble with treble.
A touch veiled, lacking in resolution and dynamics for me.  On the forgiving side of warm neutrality.  Not great, just meh, okay IMO.

I have a balanced pair. I don't find it veiled but do find it a little peaky and uneven in treble, as I find most Hifiman iems. I'd probably take the BA200 over it but would take the Tenore over both.


I didn't like the re400 single ended when it first came out. It was more like how you described. A little warm over neutral and a hair veiled, small and boxy sounding. My much newer Balanced version sounds more open, neutral and appealing.

The balanced isn't bright, and peaky is perhaps not the right descriptor but uneven definitely is. The re262, while being laid back is also uneven in treble. Just kind of grates on my nerves.

The re600. While being technically good and fairly linear, has fairly odd timbre to some instruments due to the shelved down treble. Everything sounds over damped with missing treble.
« Last Edit: October 05, 2014, 01:18:38 AM by shotgunshane »
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Re: Pyrate Leaderboard
« Reply #97 on: October 04, 2014, 10:26:08 PM »

I'd choose the Senn Momentum over the NAD50. Similar-ish sound, but far far better comfort with the Momentums (over-ear) which makes more of a difference than people give credit for.
I can see that.  I've tried both on and the HP50 do have a bit of an odd fit.  On the other hand the Momentum's ear cups are too small for my monkey ears.
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Re: Pyrate Leaderboard
« Reply #98 on: October 04, 2014, 10:41:03 PM »

you guys had no problem with the Tenore?
I was going to buy them, but after some reading on headfi I changed my mind, their QC seens to be really bad.
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Re: Pyrate Leaderboard
« Reply #99 on: October 04, 2014, 11:38:09 PM »

I had no qc issues with my Tenore. It sounds fine to me with stock tips, but I don't like the cable noise. Very acceptable as my spare pair though.
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