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Re: HiFiMan HE-400i measurements
« Reply #20 on: September 03, 2014, 05:06:33 PM »


If I end up buying these headphones, then I'll definitely give the Focus-A pads a try. 

The shrillness I've noticed is not a big enough problem to be a deal-breaker by any means.  I remember the HE-500s giving me the same problem at times.  I've also only got about 24 hrs. in on these headphones, so we'll see if they sound the same after a few more days. 

My current plan is to listen to these for about a week straight, and then switch to my DT880/Valhalla pairing and see how I feel.  And, honestly, if I found a good deal on used pair of 500s, that would tempt me as well.  So far, I slightly prefer the 500s sound, but the weight/comfort factor of the 400i is hard to overcome.

And yes, I think your prediction will be spot on.

I am well known as a 'FocusPad/FocusPad-A' hater... But still I have to recommend FocusPad-A myself. It's a more linear/smooth sounding pair of pads, quite reminiscent of my favourite old (not current) Hifiman velour pads (but less airy and open-sounding...). Still, I just don't like how they sound and ESPECIALLY how they feel (comfort).
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Re: HiFiMan HE-400i measurements
« Reply #21 on: September 03, 2014, 05:20:39 PM »


If I end up buying these headphones, then I'll definitely give the Focus-A pads a try. 

The shrillness I've noticed is not a big enough problem to be a deal-breaker by any means.  I remember the HE-500s giving me the same problem at times.  I've also only got about 24 hrs. in on these headphones, so we'll see if they sound the same after a few more days. 

My current plan is to listen to these for about a week straight, and then switch to my DT880/Valhalla pairing and see how I feel.  And, honestly, if I found a good deal on used pair of 500s, that would tempt me as well.  So far, I slightly prefer the 500s sound, but the weight/comfort factor of the 400i is hard to overcome.

And yes, I think your prediction will be spot on.
Still, I just don't like how they sound and ESPECIALLY how they feel (comfort).
No comfort issues for me, thankfully.

I'm amazed that Focus v. Focus-A can cause such a difference.  I guess there's only one way to find out :P
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Re: HiFiMan HE-400i measurements
« Reply #22 on: September 03, 2014, 05:22:46 PM »

has anybody tried the Focus/Focus A pads with other HE headphones, specifically HE 4 and/or HE 6?
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Re: HiFiMan HE-400i measurements
« Reply #23 on: September 03, 2014, 05:32:40 PM »

has anybody tried the Focus/Focus A pads with other HE headphones, specifically HE 4 and/or HE 6?

I did try both on HE-4... Don't bother with FocusPad, FocusPad-A is passable soundwise though (in terms of comfort, it's the other way around). Old Hifiman velour is my favourite with HE-4... And as I said, FocusPad-A are quite similar (but not as transparent and open-sounding). IMHO, of course :-)

Regarding the HE-4, I have written a fully-featured HE-4 guide including pad-rolling... It's on Head-fi, accessible from my signature (Ron12).
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Re: HiFiMan HE-400i measurements
« Reply #24 on: September 03, 2014, 10:44:01 PM »

Tried FocusPad-A with the HE-500, and I thought they sounded really good with them. Subjectively seemed to clean up the bass a bit too.
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Re: HiFiMan HE-400i measurements
« Reply #25 on: September 04, 2014, 05:33:33 AM »

has anybody tried the Focus/Focus A pads with other HE headphones, specifically HE 4 and/or HE 6?

I did try both on HE-4... Don't bother with FocusPad, FocusPad-A is passable soundwise though (in terms of comfort, it's the other way around). Old Hifiman velour is my favourite with HE-4... And as I said, FocusPad-A are quite similar (but not as transparent and open-sounding). IMHO, of course :-)

Regarding the HE-4, I have written a fully-featured HE-4 guide including pad-rolling... It's on Head-fi, accessible from my signature (Ron12).

Yes, I read that last night. I have the velours on the HE-4 now and was curious about the FocusPads. I really like that HP and is one reason I feel I don't need to spend on acquiring either the 400i or the 560.
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Re: HiFiMan HE-400i measurements
« Reply #26 on: September 04, 2014, 07:48:24 AM »

has anybody tried the Focus/Focus A pads with other HE headphones, specifically HE 4 and/or HE 6?
I think you already know my answer to that one!
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Re: HiFiMan HE-400i measurements
« Reply #27 on: September 04, 2014, 10:59:18 AM »

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Re: HiFiMan HE-400i measurements
« Reply #28 on: November 15, 2014, 03:21:58 PM »

My knowledge in terms of relating FR graphs to what I hear is pretty small.

If I'm hearing some female vocals coming across as a little harsh at times, would that be explained by any of the spikes we see on the graph or am I imagining things?

I am finding these headphones a little "shouty"/fatiguing on certain tracks, but it's not a consistent thing.  Other tracks come across as completely smooth and natural.

If someone can educate me here, I'd be appreciative.

*random observation* - I do believe these headphones and Radiohead are nearly a perfect match.
Quoting myself.  What a nerd.

Anyway, just wanted to point out that moving from the Asgard 1 to the Vali, completely eliminated any fatigue issues I was having.

The sound is significantly smoother/cleaner now.  No "shoutiness" or listening fatigue issues at all.

I still intend to try the Focus-A pads at some point.

All in all, though, the 400i/Vali combo is good enough that my "upgraditis" is going to be cured for quite some time.
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Re: HiFiMan HE-400i measurements
« Reply #29 on: November 15, 2014, 05:40:57 PM »

I'm talking for myself here. I had the pre-fazored LCD 2.2 and the 3. I have the fazored LCD-XC. I preferred the non-fazored HPs simply because I liked the SQ especially the LCD 2.2. Loved the bass, the mid range and didn't worry about soundstage (I have the 800 for that). With the fazor, I feel that some of the Audez'e signature sound has been sacrificed, especially the low end.

Heck I miss my LCD 2.2 !


Seems we feel the same way. The X and XC don't do much for me.
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