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Re: New Sony Flagship
« Reply #10 on: July 31, 2014, 07:32:31 AM »

Always been curious about the JVC dx1000. Should I buy it and tell you guys about it? Or does this suck so much that it isn't worth it?

I recall them sounding quite dull and very cupped as their appearance would hint at.  They're really purty, but I just can't get myself to like them.  And I often like stuff that is not so well-liked here.   ::)
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Re: New Sony Flagship
« Reply #11 on: July 31, 2014, 08:01:57 AM »

Always been curious about the JVC dx1000. Should I buy it and tell you guys about it? Or does this suck so much that it isn't worth it?

Bass is muddy to say the least. Very thick sounding, not worth the time Marv. If you want I can send you a pair around Nov. The new DX2000 (came out with a MSRP of 1000$, now selling for 680$) only changed the enclosure to a different type of wood - nothing else.

So are there actually bass heavy and bass light R10s or just degrees of degradation?

I'd like to see pics of the mold if you find any.

The foam definitely has much to do with the bass, but there are actual differences between the drivers. 1 (serial 1-50 only) is said to be the best in terms of tonality, but I'll need verify this myself with David's #49. 2-3 are the same, while 4 is said to be closer to the cd3000 sound =/

Mikhail did an overview on the 4 driver numbers years back, but I'm not sure how accurate it was. 

Where the heck did you find original foam?  I've only seen it one place before but they wanted way too much money for it.  Did it come with any specs?  I've played with some open and closed cell foam rings and the difference between those two foam rings and no foam is huge.  No foam makes them sound thin and pretty bright, fatiguing to listen to after a while.  The closed cell foam gave the sound more weight but the soundstage and air really suffered...didn't like it.  The open cell foam was the best of both worlds and made them sound really nice again.  R10 tonality was restored along with the nice airy soundstage. 

Anyone looking to do this to their R10s be forewarned that you must be extremely careful if you ever need to take the drivers out.  You can easily tear the voice coil leads.

I bought them as a package deal along with a very mint R10 from a collector. He had a stock of foam and new earpads and charged exorbitant prices :-\. The black foam around the enclosure was never sold, but the guy in that thread spent a few years developing a substitute, which he provides when fixing up your r10s.

But yeah, the damn foam makes all the difference.
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Re: New Sony Flagship
« Reply #12 on: July 31, 2014, 08:14:18 AM »

So are there actually bass heavy and bass light R10s or just degrees of degradation?

I'd like to see pics of the mold if you find any.

This is something I've wondered myself as well.  Supposedly the bass light/heavy models have different driver numbers, but it almost seems like this is a classic HF rumor gone wild.  From what I gather, the early R10s are "bass light" and most of the later R10s are "bass heavy".  This could simply be due to the foam degrading on the older pairs since the degradation is just a function of time.  On the other hand, blubliss has a specific pair of R10s that has ridiculous bass...by far the most I've heard in a R10 before. 

N - There are very few fixed up R10s.  People are pretty scared of messing with their sets and if they ever get around to "fixing them" it's something stupid like a recable.  Your Omegas don't have anything particularly subject to such quick wear and tear.  Maybe the coating in specific cases.  If I were you I'd just tighten up the allen screws on the outer housing to prevent the drivers from getting a small split/imbalance. 

Marv - The DX1000 sucks pretty bad.  Typical overpriced closed headphone sound to the extreme.  Not even Frank's best-ever dynamic amp could save those things years back.
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Re: New Sony Flagship
« Reply #13 on: July 31, 2014, 08:58:25 AM »

Marv - The DX1000 sucks pretty bad.  Typical overpriced closed headphone sound to the extreme.  Not even Frank's best-ever dynamic amp could save those things years back.

Here's some measurements of the DX1000 if anyone's interested:
http://www.geocities.jp/ryumatsuba/hp-dx1000.html

Same site's measurements of HD800 (for compensation and consistency):
http://www.geocities.jp/ryumatsuba/hd800.html
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Re: New Sony Flagship
« Reply #14 on: July 31, 2014, 10:03:36 AM »

Marv - The DX1000 sucks pretty bad.  Typical overpriced closed headphone sound to the extreme.  Not even Frank's best-ever dynamic amp could save those things years back.

Here's some measurements of the DX1000 if anyone's interested:
http://www.geocities.jp/ryumatsuba/hp-dx1000.html

Same site's measurements of HD800 (for compensation and consistency):
http://www.geocities.jp/ryumatsuba/hd800.html

Interesting.  Those HD800 measures look closer to Purrin's here than the weirdo CSDs from Golden Ears and Rin.
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Re: New Sony Flagship
« Reply #15 on: July 31, 2014, 10:09:30 AM »

Muppet was also pretty sour on the JVC IIRC, and she can be a lot more forgiving of headphone weirdness than most. Wouldn't mind seeing some SRH-1540 measurements tho.
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Re: New Sony Flagship
« Reply #16 on: July 31, 2014, 12:02:47 PM »

Model # for headphones will be Z7 and Z5

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Interesting, already a Z5 and Z7 from Sony though.
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Re: New Sony Flagship
« Reply #17 on: August 02, 2014, 05:12:05 AM »

They look quite grand based on the little bit that you can see in the picture. By the way did measurements for the MDR-7520 ever come out?
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