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Re: Bottlehead Mainline is TOTL?
« Reply #30 on: May 21, 2014, 10:34:40 AM »

Don't know why but the mids on the LCD2 and LCD3 always sound a bit dry to me even compared to the HD800.  Some folks keep saying they have the best bass and mids but I have never agreed with that.

Liquid Glass is out of my reach right now, unless i find it used on sale.
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Re: Bottlehead Mainline is TOTL?
« Reply #31 on: May 21, 2014, 10:43:43 AM »

BH Mainline is similar design to the ECP-L2, right? People have praised the ECP-L2 with HD800 a lot, so my hopes lie with the Mainline right now.
Anax and Marv what do you think of the L2?
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Re: Bottlehead Mainline is TOTL?
« Reply #32 on: May 21, 2014, 04:33:03 PM »

BH Mainline is similar design to the ECP-L2, right? People have praised the ECP-L2 with HD800 a lot, so my hopes lie with the Mainline right now.
Anax and Marv what do you think of the L2?

No idea on the Mainline since BH does not provide schematics or even any hint of topology. What is known is that both are single stage tube.

I've heard good things about the L2 by people who I trust. I missed out on it hearing once and would love a chance to do so.

As for the BH Mainline, I'm not too keen on the 6C45pi tube, especially with HD800. It could work well, so I can't say for sure, just that the 6C45pi is not a good indicator. Not many choices with that tube, the Sovteks sound like sh1t.
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Re: Bottlehead Mainline is TOTL?
« Reply #33 on: May 22, 2014, 07:26:38 AM »

Thanks!
The part where some prefer T1s to HD800s with Mainline worries me.
And that tube rolling does not affect sound much.
Maybe it is a good thing in this case?
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Re: Bottlehead Mainline is TOTL?
« Reply #34 on: May 22, 2014, 04:39:29 PM »

The problem with tube rolling 6C45P is what options? New production Sovteks or old-stock which may have different markings but are all from the Reflecktor factory? The old stock is getting rare. The new stuff sucks. That's two choices.
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Re: Bottlehead Mainline is TOTL?
« Reply #35 on: May 23, 2014, 12:02:04 PM »

One of these times when I'm out to Anaheim for a business trip I'll pack up/bring out my Mainline and we can have a mini-meet. Mainline IS a 'Parafeed' topography like the L2, Torpedo, etc. I've never head it with the HD800's, but use it every day with T90's.


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Re: Bottlehead Mainline is TOTL?
« Reply #36 on: May 23, 2014, 03:38:03 PM »

Mainline has the same 6C45P output tubes and similar? topology to L2. Very tempting.
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Re: Bottlehead Mainline is TOTL?
« Reply #37 on: May 23, 2014, 04:21:21 PM »


No idea on the Mainline since BH does not provide schematics or even any hint of topology. What is known is that both are single stage tube.

I've heard good things about the L2 by people who I trust. I missed out on it hearing once and would love a chance to do so.

As for the BH Mainline, I'm not too keen on the 6C45pi tube, especially with HD800. It could work well, so I can't say for sure, just that the 6C45pi is not a good indicator. Not many choices with that tube, the Sovteks sound like sh1t.

I would assume a reasonably similar topology. There are a few circuit tricks in the L-2 that probably make it a little different. Parts quality is also higher, but you can always upgrade the BH.

If the 6C45pi sounds hard or etchy or bad in any way, it is because it is oscillating. It is extremely difficult to keep it under control. But, if you do, it is a really wonderful tube.

In the L-2, in order to keep it happy, there are grid stoppers, plate stoppers, and cathode stoppers, and all are surface mount (i.e. without inductive resistor leads) right on the socket pins. Additionally, it has Teflon tube sockets and an extremely low impedance biasing mechanism.
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Re: Bottlehead Mainline is TOTL?
« Reply #38 on: May 23, 2014, 06:59:53 PM »

Wanna send us a L2 for review?  I'd love to confirm the performance of the 6c45pi.
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Re: Bottlehead Mainline is TOTL?
« Reply #39 on: May 23, 2014, 07:16:52 PM »

Oh man, I love the woodworking on that Mainline... almost looks like marble.
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