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Re: V-Moda XS
« Reply #20 on: May 22, 2014, 07:13:42 PM »

Now that you mention it, would you like to measure the K500s? One is with stock ear pads and the other (my listening headphone) with K601 ear pads. Post in the Netherlands is swift enough.

If you would like them (and or other HP's) measured I can do that and post the results.
No problemo...
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Re: V-Moda XS
« Reply #21 on: May 22, 2014, 09:45:32 PM »

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Re: V-Moda XS
« Reply #22 on: May 22, 2014, 10:21:40 PM »

The measurements look promising. A bit more isolation would have been nice.
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Re: V-Moda XS
« Reply #23 on: May 23, 2014, 02:19:53 AM »

Tyll says there's even more bass emphasis on these than on the M80s. 

Too bad.

I really WANT to like these headphones...
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Re: V-Moda XS
« Reply #24 on: May 23, 2014, 03:57:56 AM »

Tyll says there's even more bass emphasis on these than on the M80s. 

Too bad.

I really WANT to like these headphones...

I encourage you to try the recordings linked above by solderdude, I found it's best to compare each recording to the original using a quick A/B switch such as foobar2000's ABX tool (ReplayGain compensation on). All colorations become readily apparent this way, allowing for a partial assessment of the performance in which most deal-breaking stuff is really easy to spot. The XS were my first choice for portables, but after listening to the recordings I decided I would be bothered by the humped bass and scooped mids.
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Re: V-Moda XS
« Reply #25 on: May 23, 2014, 04:20:30 AM »

I used to have the M80 but there was some fuzziness in the 3-4kHz region that felt a bit off to me. I wonder if that's changed now.
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Re: V-Moda XS
« Reply #26 on: May 23, 2014, 12:57:54 PM »

Tyll says there's even more bass emphasis on these than on the M80s. 

Too bad.

I really WANT to like these headphones...

I encourage you to try the recordings linked above by solderdude, I found it's best to compare each recording to the original using a quick A/B switch such as foobar2000's ABX tool (ReplayGain compensation on). All colorations become readily apparent this way, allowing for a partial assessment of the performance in which most deal-breaking stuff is really easy to spot. The XS were my first choice for portables, but after listening to the recordings I decided I would be bothered by the humped bass and scooped mids.
The relationship between the bass/mids is why I ended up not buying the M80s.  Was hoping that had changed, but it doesn't appear to be the case.

I'm very pleased with my DT1350s, so I guess it's all fine.  I just like Val's attention to detail regarding the physical build of his headphones and keep wanting the sound to be equally good.  Which it is for many people, I realize...
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Re: V-Moda XS
« Reply #27 on: May 23, 2014, 01:51:03 PM »

Yes, there's a recession between 150 - 1000 Hz that's more severe than it looks in Tyll's graphs.
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Re: V-Moda XS
« Reply #28 on: May 25, 2014, 04:10:34 AM »

I picked these up last week as part of a neverending quest to find a portable that's comfortable, convenient, sturdy and near-reference quality. Sad to say that the quest will continue. The XS is actually a good, fun sounding headphone with a fairly even and extended treble. The problem, as mentioned by Armaegis and Tyll, is that the 1-3khz region sounds nasty. My naive interpretation of this is that it is due to a breakup mode which is allowed in for purposes of HRTF frequency response compensation and made necessary by the duodiaphragm build (breakup from the smaller diaphragm made worse by its connection to the outer layer that is connected at its circumference, perhaps). I think a similar thing happens with some AKG models and is responsible for their boosted upper mids and periodic ringing. The low-treble/upper mids still sound all right and were it not for simple acoustic guitar and vocalist recordings I might not have been bothered by them. Unfortunately this upper mid annoyance also adds to imperfections in the recording, so if the audio's clipped in that range it will sound even worse.

The bass is elevated but not grossly so, certainly not to the level of the M-100/LP2s. I like a fun little mid bass boost, though in this case it makes what should be punchy sound a little loose.

The build quality, as always with V-moda, is remarkable. The XS is a damn decent deal at a little over 200$.


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Re: V-Moda XS
« Reply #29 on: May 25, 2014, 04:13:27 AM »

I picked these up last week as part of a neverending quest to find a portable that's comfortable, convenient, sturdy and near-reference quality. Sad to say that the quest will continue. The XS is actually a good, fun sounding headphone with a fairly even and extended treble. The problem, as mentioned by Armaegis and Tyll, is that the 1-3khz region sounds nasty. My naive interpretation of this is that it is due to a breakup mode which is allowed in for purposes of HRTF frequency response compensation and made necessary by the duodiaphragm build (breakup from the smaller diaphragm made worse by its connection to the outer layer that is connected at its circumference, perhaps). I think a similar thing happens with some AKG models and is responsible for their boosted upper mids and periodic ringing. The low-treble/upper mids still sound all right and were it not for simple acoustic guitar and vocalist recordings I might not have been bothered by them. Unfortunately this upper mid annoyance also adds to imperfections in the recording, so if the audio's clipped in that range it will sound even worse.

The bass is elevated but not grossly so, certainly not to the level of the M-100/LP2s. I like a fun little mid bass boost, though in this case it makes what should be punchy sound a little loose.

The build quality, as always with V-moda, is remarkable. The XS is a damn decent deal at a little over 200$.




Maybe it's due time for a Franken-portable  (XS's body, and maybe I dunno a Koss KSC75 or 35 driver, plus some damping).
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