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Re: HD800 cable?
« Reply #130 on: May 08, 2015, 09:59:07 AM »

There is no way to scientifically measure what a cable will do in your system compared to another.

When you electrically subtract the signal from the output of a cable with that of the input of the cable then you end up with the difference in that specific setup.
Now that isn't a really hard test to do ...
You need to make small adapters that allow you to get the voltage out at both ends of the cable.
You can use test tones or music whatever you want.

Have done this in the past myself and it is interesting (especially with interlinks).

You need to do it yourself to find the answer ... not gonna spill any beans here.
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Re: HD800 cable?
« Reply #131 on: May 08, 2015, 02:57:33 PM »

When you electrically subtract the signal from the output of a cable with that of the input of the cable then you end up with the difference in that specific setup.
Now that isn't a really hard test to do ...
You need to make small adapters that allow you to get the voltage out at both ends of the cable.
You can use test tones or music whatever you want.

Have done this in the past myself and it is interesting (especially with interlinks).

You need to do it yourself to find the answer ... not gonna spill any beans here.

You spill beans here and you have to clean them up.
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Re: HD800 cable?
« Reply #132 on: May 08, 2015, 06:28:34 PM »

You spill beans here and you have to clean them up.


Yes .. I know...  that's why I don't try to spill any ...
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Re: HD800 cable?
« Reply #133 on: May 20, 2015, 07:54:36 AM »

PSA - the ZY HD800 cable is back on Massdrop if anyone is looking for a more affordable aftermarket option.
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Re: HD800 cable?
« Reply #134 on: August 10, 2015, 06:13:17 PM »

Getting a SE amp so I needed something besides the stock cable. Talked with Ted and just ordered this:

6', HD800, OCC Litz, Black sheathing with heatshrink Y, heatshrink covered HD800 connectors (like my balanced cable), Oyaide rhodium 6.3mm (looked the best)

Here's pics of my balanced cable. This one will look the same except the plug, of course. These were taken a while ago when I still had the Bryston.








Can you link me to the website or person that made this cable as I am looking for exactly this except for it being 5 feet and a 1/4 termination.
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Re: HD800 cable?
« Reply #135 on: August 10, 2015, 06:25:53 PM »

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Re: HD800 cable?
« Reply #136 on: August 12, 2015, 12:41:20 AM »

FWIW - venus audio (via ebay) also makes very similar looking, and modestly priced, balanced hd800 cables out of cardas or canare wire, depending on your preferred price point.

I have the cardas version and can confirm that it is a very nicely made cable.  That said, if you forced me to take a DBT comparing the venus cardas to my stock cable, which I reterminated with cardas eutectic solder and a neutrik 4-pin XLR, I'm fairly confident that I would fail.  I do theoretically appreciate knowing that there's no skin effect to worry about in the cardas litz wire - notwithstanding that it isn't really supposed to impact the audio band in any event. 

All in all, I remain a cable agnostic - who wishes solderdude would just spill those beans!  I've toyed with the notion of making some sort of reverse adapters, in order to run different headphone cables through diffmaker for years now, but evidently I'm too lazy to actually do it (or at least I have been so far).
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Re: HD800 cable?
« Reply #137 on: August 12, 2015, 05:17:55 AM »

All in all, I remain a cable agnostic - who wishes solderdude would just spill those beans!  I've toyed with the notion of making some sort of reverse adapters, in order to run different headphone cables through diffmaker for years now, but evidently I'm too lazy to actually do it (or at least I have been so far).

Like in the other thread (http://www.changstar.com/index.php/topic,2691.msg77047/topicseen.html#new) ... decent connectors (+ solderjoints/strain relief) and clean sockets is all you need.

and .... diffmaker running 2 sets of separate 'recordings' won't do it for the simple reason that the clock generator will never 'sync' exactly the same resulting in showing differences that aren't really there.

There is only one option and that's by building a real differential amp (and recording the result).
Educational for sure....
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Re: HD800 cable?
« Reply #138 on: August 12, 2015, 09:17:45 AM »

Finally ordered myself an aftermarket cable. Got tired of how long the stock cable is right now and I wanted something shorter. Got the new Zoetic series from Norne audio, apparently according to Trevor, it's better than the draug v2, it's just less labor intensive so it is slightly cheaper.

Hopefully the wait won't be too long.
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Re: HD800 cable?
« Reply #139 on: August 13, 2015, 06:23:52 AM »

Finally ordered myself an aftermarket cable. Got tired of how long the stock cable is right now and I wanted something shorter. Got the new Zoetic series from Norne audio, apparently according to Trevor, it's better than the draug v2, it's just less labor intensive so it is slightly cheaper.

Hopefully the wait won't be too long.

Sweet..  looking forward to your impressions with the HD800.. I've been considering that cable for a while, too.  Heard it's pretty badass with the HE-560.
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