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Re: March 2014 OC Meet Pirate Impressions
« Reply #30 on: March 24, 2014, 04:12:38 AM »


I had a chance with the Roxanne's though; I heard them as off-sounding, and not in a subtle way. Vocals seemed weird, bass seemed weird. I'll let Anax comment more as he's much better at describing this sh1t than myself.

JH Rox - This is by far the most overrated product this year. I'm glad I didn't drop $1600 on a whim during the BF sale. Actually, I probably wouldn't have heard the Rox until this show anyway... LOL. The amount of issues JH has had with this particular CIEM has been a joke. Can't get something as simple as a connector nut right... give me a break. Sound was actually warmer than I expected. I was expecting something similar to the JH13's with more detail and better bass. Well, I actually prefer the JH13FP for what that is worth. Sound is plasticky and artificial. Nothing about the sound impressed me other than the staging which I felt was decent. A big NO THANK YOU from me. I'll pass.. walk the plank2

Huh, that's very interesting, given the hype train on HF. Well, tupac over there (is he ever over here?) mentioned something similar.

Greed I hear my K10s about how you heard the demos this time around, so I think you got a good sense of them.

Murrin, it sounds like you found the jh13fp to be deafness-inducing-machines.

I basically have to choose between the jh13fp, jh16fp and Roxannes (which I'll hear all in demo form before making a final decision). Anyone who has an opinion is welcome to chime in, thanks!
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Re: March 2014 OC Meet Pirate Impressions
« Reply #31 on: March 24, 2014, 04:47:37 AM »


  • 445 -> HD800 (the magic one Anax had on-hand)
  • Liquid Gold -> Abyss
  • 445 -> Abyss
  • 445 -> HD600

To put things into perspective, I did not love the Abyss with the BA. Too soft. The 4-45 (more current delivery, different power supply) helps quite a bit, but I think I may still prefer good powerful solid state with the Abyss just to get that last bit of driver control. (Also the Abyss cannot make full use of the 4-45's resolving capabilities). Depends upon what mood I am in. You want to have everything in one single amp, but you really can't.
 
The Sennheisers HD600/650/800 are amazing with the 4-45. No question about that. You were there and heard how well the "lowly" HD600s kept scaling...
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Re: March 2014 OC Meet Pirate Impressions
« Reply #32 on: March 24, 2014, 04:55:40 AM »

I would argue HD600 + 445 is endgame tier. You could live with it and be happy despite all the other stuff out there, which has got to count for something.

And I did feel the Abyss lacked a bit of mojo on the 445, compared to the Cavalli. Hence my ranking.
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Re: March 2014 OC Meet Pirate Impressions
« Reply #33 on: March 24, 2014, 06:02:38 AM »

"Um, Dan... you sure about that?", "That amp sucks, why are you showing your headphones with it?", "That's not good", etc. I think Dan's finally got it all covered now with the Mjolnir and LG at the meets.

I was at a meet where two big name reviewers listened switched one phone between the M/G stack and Conductor (sold the 160D over a year ago).  One declared "The Schiit is better" and walked off.  The other guy winked and said, "He's wrong.  The Conductor is better."  I hear that a lot, actually.

I tried to make three nice setups with unique takes on sound at different price points because people's preferences vary so widely.
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Re: March 2014 OC Meet Pirate Impressions
« Reply #34 on: March 24, 2014, 06:04:18 AM »

OMG! That was the Conductor? Horrible. The horror! The horror!
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Re: March 2014 OC Meet Pirate Impressions
« Reply #35 on: March 24, 2014, 06:14:12 AM »

When that was Dan's setup, I think I liked the Conductor better with the just released Alphas. Probably the Gungnir giving me fits on the other rig. I don't remember what DAC Dan is using with his Liquid Glass, but that setup trounces both the Conductor and the G/M stack. On another level, still, though is Alex's Cantata + Liquid Cobalt with Dan's Alphas.

Looking forward to hearing the MD Pros at some point, Dan. You've got to fix that stand, though. I never thought you'd keep using the same design for it this long, LOL. That was literally the first thing I noticed when you unveiled the Alphas and commented on it. Make it two pieces that snap together or something so it fits the box but has usable height.
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Re: March 2014 OC Meet Pirate Impressions
« Reply #36 on: March 24, 2014, 06:22:03 AM »

Purrin, so, then I can safely leave it in your care at a meet? 
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Re: March 2014 OC Meet Pirate Impressions
« Reply #37 on: March 24, 2014, 06:30:17 AM »

I'm guessing you are talking to me, but I'm not sure I follow. Wanting to save some airfare/time and send me a pair for demo at the Dallas meet?
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Re: March 2014 OC Meet Pirate Impressions
« Reply #38 on: March 24, 2014, 06:33:48 AM »

You've got to fix that stand, though. I never thought you'd keep using the same design for it this long, LOL. That was literally the first thing I noticed when you unveiled the Alphas and commented on it. Make it two pieces that snap together or something so it fits the box but has usable height.

I'd like the stand to be taller but I haven't found a way to do it without increasing production cost, then we couldn't include it for free, and bigger = increased shipping costs.  Most people use it by putting near an edge so the cable can hang freely, a few attach a riser of some sort on the top. Imperfect solution, but hopefully better than a cutlass in the eye... 
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Re: March 2014 OC Meet Pirate Impressions
« Reply #39 on: March 24, 2014, 06:35:20 AM »

I'm guessing you are talking to me, but I'm not sure I follow. Wanting to save some airfare/time and send me a pair for demo at the Dallas meet?

I was a bad dog and didn't quote Purrin.  Thanks for the offer, but I really like going to the meets and meeting people.  It's the best part of my job...
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