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Re: AKG K812 Measurements
« Reply #100 on: November 05, 2014, 02:23:41 PM »
Quote from: marvey on November 04, 2014, 07:48:11 PM
I forgot I had them too.

Quite the memorable headphone, eh?
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Re: AKG K812 Measurements
« Reply #101 on: November 06, 2014, 02:36:33 AM »
Quote from: Tyll Hertsens on November 05, 2014, 02:23:41 PM
Quite the memorable headphone, eh?

Does it really sound that lifeless?
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Re: AKG K812 Measurements
« Reply #102 on: November 06, 2014, 07:29:43 PM »
Quote from: Deep Funk on November 06, 2014, 02:36:33 AM
Does it really sound that lifeless?

Granted, I had a very short listen under very compromised conditions (see my prior post above), but really don't think the word "lifeless" applies to the sound. In fact, although there are undoubtedly main fair criticisms that have been leveled in this thread against the K812, I would be surprised if even the detractors thought it was "lifeless".  IMO, the AKG K812 are designed to have a bit of a fun sound signature with both elevated bass and treble.  The soundstage is wide, albeit kind of funky and may not be to everyone's tastes (I did not listen long enough to come to a firm conclusion for myself).  To me those factors definitely make it lively. In contrast, I could see someone saying the very analytical K/Q7xx series is "liefeless", although I do not feel that way at all about my Q701. But the K812 is very different.   

My impression in this thread is that with the possible exception of Anaxilus, who seems to think the excessive treble is eardrum piercing, the detractors think the K812 falls short in too many areas for the lofty price of $1,499 and might be considered decent to good at a lower price point. I do not want to speak for others so if people think this is a lifeless can then feel free to say so. But that characterization would greatly surprise me based on my short listen. But I can get not liking the sound signature and/or thinking these are way overpriced for a variety of reasons.
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Re: AKG K812 Measurements
« Reply #103 on: November 06, 2014, 08:47:19 PM »
That AKG headphones have a subtle tone to their sound signature is usually expected for the monitor and studio series.

I guess AKG "funned" up the sound of the K7xx-series or went the old route of going for the subtle V-shaped sound signature as they did with the K240DF. Thing is, when the drivers are not fully utilised with proper placement and construction the headphone will kind of flop.

1500 Dollars seems too much. Especially when you consider older headphones with big angled drivers like the Sony CD-series. Even the Philips SHP9000 has big angled drivers and sounds mighty impressive with Classical music.

Then again, I already thought 1500 Dollars was too much for the HD800 at its introduction. When a seventies Pioneer sounds just as good, keep the money.   
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Re: AKG K812 Measurements
« Reply #104 on: November 06, 2014, 09:41:57 PM »
Quote from: Colgin on November 06, 2014, 07:29:43 PM
I would be surprised if even the detractors thought it was "lifeless". 

I hated the 812 but lifelessness wasn't much of an issue for me.  For lifelessness one would be hard pressed to beat an Oppo planar.  Those have the musical soul of a Roomba.
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Re: AKG K812 Measurements
« Reply #105 on: November 06, 2014, 10:15:09 PM »
The measurements Marvey made look scary bad for an AKG headphone. As long as its sound signature is not too "peak" oriented it can still sound smooth but if that is not the case then AKG made a piece of  poo
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Re: AKG K812 Measurements
« Reply #106 on: November 06, 2014, 10:31:45 PM »
Quote from: Deep Funk on November 06, 2014, 02:36:33 AM
Does it really sound that lifeless?

It was more screetching tenors and baritones from barbershop quartets that did in the 812s in for me. Never had I heard male voices been rendered like banshees.

And then there was missing information on the 812s which the HD600s seemed to have no problem reproducing.
 
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Re: AKG K812 Measurements
« Reply #107 on: November 06, 2014, 10:53:46 PM »
Quote from: marvey on November 06, 2014, 10:31:45 PM
It was more screetching tenors and baritones from barbershop quartets that did in the 812s in for me. Never had I heard male voices been rendered like banshees.

And then there was missing information on the 812s which the HD600s seemed to have no problem reproducing.
 

That's it exactly on both counts.  For an HD800 killer it couldn't even beat an HD600/650 in resolution.  The treble issues from the unit I heard were the worst I have ever heard in anything ever.
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Re: AKG K812 Measurements
« Reply #108 on: November 06, 2014, 10:56:12 PM »
Quote from: Anaxilus on November 06, 2014, 10:53:46 PM
That's it exactly on both counts.  For an HD800 killer it couldn't even beat an HD600/650 in resolution.  The treble issues from the unit I heard were the worst I have ever heard in anything ever.

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Re: AKG K812 Measurements
« Reply #109 on: December 21, 2014, 06:32:55 AM »
Any particular tracks that people think exemplify the flaws in the AKG K812. Frankly, I am just not having the treble issues that some clearly are, but it could be a musical selection issue. I did listen to some of the tracks Tyll mentioned in his review as problematic and with the possible exception of the Pinback track (and even that was not too problematic for me) did not have issues. Keep in mind that I do not have a highly resolving DAC or amp so that may be actually benefiting me.  I may perhaps also listen lower than others, although I don't think I listen as low as I probably should be doing. All in all so far I am hearing improvement in soundstage over my AKG Q701 and a much more balanced sound with smoother treble. For example, the great Somny Rollins track St. Thomas I find almost unlistenable on my Q701 due to piercing treble but it was fine and enjoyable on the K812.

Also, Amber Rubarth track "Novocaine" which is a binauraltrack I like to use for soundstage testing can be painful on the vocals on any of number of cans, but played very nicely with the K812 much to my surprise given what I had read in advance. 
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