Topic: Bill-P's modded ES10 (not ESW10) (Read 2389 times)

Marvey · « **on:** February 23, 2014, 06:50:51 AM »

CEETEE introduced me to Bill-P and handed over these modded ESW10s to me for measuring. Some slight channel imbalance (right channel sounds more laid back than left - confirmed via reversing sides.) Actually sounds pretty good with slight emphasis on mids and occasional shout (probably the 3-4k peak) with certain recordings.

ultrabike · « **Reply #1 on:** February 23, 2014, 07:13:23 AM »

Seems a bit similar (impressions and measurements) to the ESW10 previously measured.

I think I quickly heard an ESW9 @ BestBuy some time ago. Dunno how close that one is to the ESW10, but I thought it was pretty good for a closed can. Very elegant design.

MuppetFace · « **Reply #2 on:** February 23, 2014, 12:56:56 PM »

The ESW10JPN is still an awesome closed-back on-ear headphone by today's market standards. Plus it's one of the most beautiful headphones of all time in my opinion.

The ESW9 is also nice if it suits your needs, and in recent years Audio-Technica seems to have retuned them a bit to sound closer to the ESW10JPN.

The new ESW11LTD was a little disappointing to me, comparatively speaking.

N · « **Reply #3 on:** February 23, 2014, 06:45:52 PM »

Were they ESW10s originally? In my brief discussion with him I believe he referred to them as originally ES10s.

I remember talking to him about how the bass response was vastly less exaggerated than on the original ES10.

Marvey · « **Reply #4 on:** February 23, 2014, 06:51:44 PM »

maybe they were ES10s.

mkubota1 · « **Reply #5 on:** February 23, 2014, 10:21:19 PM »

Yup, they were based on the ES10, not the ESW10.
http://eu.audio-technica.com/en/products/product.asp?catID=5&subID=38&prodID=3981

They have a larger driver (53mm vs 42mmm). The stock ES10 is pretty bassy, even compared to the ESW9. This mod seems to have tamed that down quite a bit.

Marvey · « **Reply #6 on:** February 23, 2014, 11:55:53 PM »

Well Bill-P was certainly quite successful. They weren't bassy at all. Heck, I thought they were ESW10s.

CEE TEE · « **Reply #7 on:** February 24, 2014, 08:15:12 AM »

Thanks for measuring these and for those who have listened to them.

I like the way Bill's ears work and where he tries to take his phones and combine components. He cares about the mids.

After the last Bay Area mini-meet, he improved this pair.

Fun to see that the FR matched the lack of annoyance at the problem spots and I will make note of the dips, they were better than at the mini-meet. This kind of feedback is what is very helpful to make other graphs meaningful and for reference.

N · « **Reply #8 on:** February 24, 2014, 06:09:04 PM »

CEE TEE, you looked pretty happy with them in his photos.

I believe Bill mentioned he wanted to approximate the tonal balance of the SR-009 with his mods. A very deliberate effort was made to reduce the bass and maximize clarity.

A modder I met in NYC made similar modifications to his ESW9s and ES10s and utilized cork to great effect, as well as hybridizing the wood housings from one another using his ESW10 and W3000 as reference points. I'd be curious as to a cross-product of their efforts if they shared their techniques...

Marvey · « **Reply #9 on:** February 24, 2014, 06:15:39 PM »

If Bill's intent was to mimic the tonal balance of the SR009s, I would say that he was quite successful.

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