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Re: Back to Speakers... Again! (Dirt Cheap Open Baffle Speaker Project)
« Reply #130 on: March 12, 2015, 05:53:17 PM »

realized a zobel would be necessary if I wanted to implement a passive x-over instead of the active I'm currently using.

What are you trying to accomplish exactly? I'm guessing you want to avoid woofer's cone break-up but not use a notch filter?

As an aside, that's the good thing about these Dipole15 woofers. Very low inductance (.04mH vs 1.1mH  :vomit:), especially on the 4ohm (dual 8ohm coils in parallel) version. Impedance curve doesn't start rising until after 3k which means a higher crossover point is easy.
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Re: Back to Speakers... Again! (Dirt Cheap Open Baffle Speaker Project)
« Reply #131 on: March 12, 2015, 06:41:20 PM »

Not necessarily break-up, just want to slopes to be as designed, i.e. 2nd order = 2nd order, not 1st order.
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Re: Back to Speakers... Again! (Dirt Cheap Open Baffle Speaker Project)
« Reply #132 on: March 12, 2015, 11:40:13 PM »

How much of a factor is dust to open-baffle?
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Re: Back to Speakers... Again! (Dirt Cheap Open Baffle Speaker Project)
« Reply #133 on: March 13, 2015, 12:12:24 AM »

How much of a factor is dust to open-baffle?

Not a big deal in my experience for dynamic woofers. Probably more of a concern if you're running ribbons or AMTs.
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Re: Back to Speakers... Again! (Dirt Cheap Open Baffle Speaker Project)
« Reply #134 on: June 07, 2015, 03:32:39 PM »

Did this to my A5s since my room acoustics are very poor. Mounted them on biscuit tins that I stuffed with modelling clay. Theres a sub below which is more of a midbass unit. Needa get em measured but my EMU unit broke before I finished getting everything in order. At the very least, I'm not getting the boxed up sound and room modes before this.

For my next one, I'm kinda exploring full range boxes and more specifically BMR OBs.

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Re: Back to Speakers... Again! (Dirt Cheap Open Baffle Speaker Project)
« Reply #135 on: June 07, 2015, 03:57:47 PM »

Hentai master chief approved. Is that a patchoulli and koakuma puzzle in the back?

How do the A5s sound like that?
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Re: Back to Speakers... Again! (Dirt Cheap Open Baffle Speaker Project)
« Reply #136 on: June 07, 2015, 05:26:22 PM »

Yup! It is, I got it from doujin store White Canvas when they had a booth at a con. I have a couple of puzzles that I have put of from finishing :3

I don't think I'm getting a much better solution with smaller speakers(like less than 5") than I'm getting with this one without spending a ton on say Genelecs.

To put it concisely.

The good:
-Wide sweet spot
-good imaging but not exactly pinpoint
-clean treble
-open sounding without port farts and any enclosure modes

The bad:
-3k peak that decreases with distance and toe in.
-not exactly the cleanest midrange
-1 note bass courtesy of the sub I'm using(not the A5's fault)
-drivers not exactly capable of concert level SPLs, tweeters tend to distort at 3k at that point. :X

Misc:
-Decent detail but does not dig as deep as the HD800. A/Bing stuff is more difficult on this.
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Re: Back to Speakers... Again! (Dirt Cheap Open Baffle Speaker Project)
« Reply #137 on: June 07, 2015, 08:00:12 PM »

Well this gave me some ideas  popcorn

Could I use car speakers for it? Here it's impossible to find some good sounding speaker for under 300 local bucks, just some edifier stuff that are pretty meh.
Although I could find some pionner or selenium woofers for 60 bucks and some tweeters for 40...but I don't have an idea how to integrate them and also how to amp properly, is there any guide for DIY speaker?

BTW, I would use it on my computer desk.
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Re: Back to Speakers... Again! (Dirt Cheap Open Baffle Speaker Project)
« Reply #138 on: August 08, 2015, 01:42:26 PM »

Got my mike a few weeks ago and had a go measuring my speaker's in room response which... was pretty darn bad haha. Did some eq from there but will probably do some more detailed eqing or integration some other time. Got the imaging to be more or less precise enough. The drivers hide some low-level detail but for now I'm satisfied with what I have.


Mic setup is a EMM-6 on a mic stand with a Cross-spectrum labs cal.frd at 90 degrees incidence. 1/12 octave smoothing for this


Looking at a bunch of stuff as always since I will be a student again in sometime with access to a good workshop so I really hope to capitalise on that to get projects going and done. As always I'm on a shoestring budget and its really more for my desktop scenario with little space. Keeping those in mine, I'm seriously giving a few drivers/speakers in mine. Mostly point source implementations.

Some stuff I'm looking out for,
Fostex: I doubt they have much good for me since their stuff are always in larger setups.
Tang Band: Their new drivers look really attractive, currently one of my more go to options.
Cotswold BMR drivers: Seems like the way to go as well,full range in a small form factor.

Sorry for missing this altrunox, I would go with the above for a desk. The best place to start with integrating stuff would be to read up on how crossovers work.
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Re: Back to Speakers... Again! (Dirt Cheap Open Baffle Speaker Project)
« Reply #139 on: August 08, 2015, 02:28:45 PM »

Did this to my A5s since my room acoustics are very poor. Mounted them on biscuit tins that I stuffed with modelling clay.
I love it! You have literal CANS on your desk!  :)p13
I'm guessing enclosures would help the sound from those car speakers. Heh, reminds of the time my roommate blew out one my cheapo speakers. He replaced with a Pioneer car speaker.
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