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Re: Anime Discussion Thread
« Reply #60 on: February 15, 2014, 12:13:15 AM »

Even more so than Kill la Kill? That show has been generating some serious controversy and people are constantly arguing about it. I guess it depends on what part of it is polarizing. Are you talking about people debating the quality of the show, plot, etc. or about people discussing social issues related to the show (since this is what more of Kill la Kill's controversy is about)?
I personally think so. I can see how Kill la Kill would be controversial, but I think most of those arguments revolve around the kamukis (or whatever they're called).
SAO has some more fundamental problems with the story though, which leave some people either loving or hating the second half of the show.
I think this pretty much sums up my feelings for the second half: (starting at around 3:05)


I think a lot of the SAO controversy stems from people not letting the story tell itself and assuming they know what it's about. Reviews I've seen berate it for being too much of a love story, not enough action and too little focus on the game itself. While I can see their point, if the story is mostly about the love story, guess what, it's a love story wrapped in a VRMMORPG package and thus should only support the story, not be it. People rate the second season significantly worse than the first, but I think the second is just as good if not better is some regards. I'm not sure what they are going to do in the third season. I can only think it will be bad from here as the main story is fully wrapped up.

I started Psycho Pass the other night. Interesting first few episodes.
I guess there are those issues too, but honestly I enjoyed the premise and execution of the first part of the story, I didn't think there was too much romance or not enough action or whatever, I thought it was a pretty good balance. My beef is with the second arc of the story though. See above video.

Ahh Psycho Pass. Probably one of Gen Urobuchi's best works. I don't remember what episode it was, but there's one episode where something happens and I thought it was one of the most profound scenes I've ever seen. Generally I think I see some of Urobuchi's stories as overly profound though, so my opinion probably isn't worth much.
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Re: Anime Discussion Thread
« Reply #61 on: February 15, 2014, 12:02:17 PM »

@CCS, not to toot my own horn or anything.... http://fantasyrumbahp.wordpress.com/2014/01/22/doing-anime-wrong-my-anime-world-is-at-peace-now/

tl;dr, some conversation with a twitter-friend (FWIW) about anime, and I wrote about why I started anime in a vague-ish disjointed way (mostly for wanting sci-fi but with Japanese visual), and end up for "fuck everything, let's go for bonkers and nonsense type anime". Once in a while though, some good sci-fi/fantasy/whatever that's not just either the usual moe thing came up, like Shinsekai Yori or Psycho-Pass or Gatchaman CROWDS and my foolish dream lights up again, only to be dashed. Again.

And Psycho-Pass is, IMO, the best series that have its main female character develop very very well. Throwing around philosophical phrases around makes it a bit pretentious I feel, but cyberpunk detective story is always a +1 in my heart. Sadly, "Made by Gen Urobochi" is not a guarantee of good shit anymore, if you have certain expectations tied with that phrase though.
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Re: Anime Discussion Thread
« Reply #62 on: February 15, 2014, 12:42:28 PM »

I tried the first two episodes of Kill La Kill. It does not cross the line like Apocalypse Zero or Violence Jack. The Humour is very slapstick oriented and over the top. For what it does some of the action scenes are fantastically absurd and are worth the build up.

Entertaining enough for variety's sake.
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Re: Anime Discussion Thread
« Reply #63 on: February 15, 2014, 06:38:41 PM »

@CCS, not to toot my own horn or anything.... http://fantasyrumbahp.wordpress.com/2014/01/22/doing-anime-wrong-my-anime-world-is-at-peace-now/

tl;dr, some conversation with a twitter-friend (FWIW) about anime, and I wrote about why I started anime in a vague-ish disjointed way (mostly for wanting sci-fi but with Japanese visual), and end up for "fuck everything, let's go for bonkers and nonsense type anime". Once in a while though, some good sci-fi/fantasy/whatever that's not just either the usual moe thing came up, like Shinsekai Yori or Psycho-Pass or Gatchaman CROWDS and my foolish dream lights up again, only to be dashed. Again.

And Psycho-Pass is, IMO, the best series that have its main female character develop very very well. Throwing around philosophical phrases around makes it a bit pretentious I feel, but cyberpunk detective story is always a Dubstep Girl agrees in my heart. Sadly, "Made by Gen Urobochi" is not a guarantee of good shit anymore, if you have certain expectations tied with that phrase though.

The thing is, I generally don't watch all that much anime at all. I typically read manga, and when I do, it's for one of four things: 1) A good plot driven story w/ or w/o over the top action 2) A plot-less manga that's all about over the top action and/or general nonsense 3) A believable(ish) slice of life story or 4) I want a really frustrating, troll-ish romance that's bound to piss somebody off (Seo Kouji's works are good examples). Number 1 is the type I like the best and there are some very good plot-heavy, even sometimes deep, manga and anime. However, they do indeed exist in the smallest numbers compared to the other three and would have a hard time competing with classic western literature. I disagree with the notion that the plots are of lower quality than some western dramas and other things, though, but that's a subjective preference.
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Re: Anime Discussion Thread
« Reply #64 on: February 17, 2014, 05:28:16 AM »

Finished Psycho Pass. Excellent, but not quite a top pick for me. I liked the realistic ending rather than the typical anime finish.
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Re: Anime Discussion Thread
« Reply #65 on: February 21, 2014, 10:13:28 AM »

Finished Psycho Pass. Excellent, but not quite a top pick for me. I liked the realistic ending rather than the typical anime finish.
Looks like there's going to be a movie and second season if you thought it was lacking like I did.
What did you think of the first episode with the helmets? I loved the blatant commentary on today's society.
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Re: Anime Discussion Thread
« Reply #66 on: February 21, 2014, 05:12:45 PM »

OK I'll be on the lookout for that. There was a ton of blatant commentary, it sort of overwhelms at points, but still good.

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In other news I started Black Lagoon. Watched the first season and a bunch of short specials that were hilarious. Good, if a bit silly, show so far.
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Re: Anime Discussion Thread
« Reply #67 on: February 22, 2014, 12:47:02 AM »

To anybody who has watched both the original Neon Genesis Evangelion series (including EoE) and what exists so far of the Rebuild series:

Is Rebuild worth watching? I've read/heard mixed reviews. Most of the negative reviews are centered around making a lot of the characters shallower and developing them less than Eva did, as well as diverging from the original series' focus on psychoanalysis. Is this true and are these flaws significant enough that it will disappoint someone who loves the original series or should I go ahead and watch Rebuild after all?
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Re: Anime Discussion Thread
« Reply #68 on: February 22, 2014, 01:37:45 AM »

Eva was my first anime. No way I'm tarnishing my memory with a re-hash, good or bad.
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Re: Anime Discussion Thread
« Reply #69 on: February 22, 2014, 03:32:17 AM »

To anybody who has watched both the original Neon Genesis Evangelion series (including EoE) and what exists so far of the Rebuild series:

Is Rebuild worth watching? I've read/heard mixed reviews. Most of the negative reviews are centered around making a lot of the characters shallower and developing them less than Eva did, as well as diverging from the original series' focus on psychoanalysis. Is this true and are these flaws significant enough that it will disappoint someone who loves the original series or should I go ahead and watch Rebuild after all?

The complaints seems logical to me if you think about it: the original guys behind them already left the studio, made a new studio and is currently spiritually succeeding Gurren Lagann with clothing shonen; and IMO for the depth expected from character development in NGE, OVA is a bit too limiting.

@Maxvla, also if you have the time/after you finished/done with Black Lagoon, try checking out Shinsekai Yori/From the New World. Main criticism for it is that the story starts off slow, the main characters are a bit bland, something shocking happened that heteromale neckbeard viewers went berserk and ragequit, but it's one of the best "human plays god and the consequence is dire" anime since a long time, one of the best world building I've seen, and it's set in a post apocalyptic earth, but not madmax style or dystopia cyberpunk style. Also psychics and slaves.

But whatever you do, DO NOT check out the manga of the same name since it's a heteromale neckbearded disgrace of the source. Disgusting, stripping out all the complexities in the anime (and original real-novel IIRC) just for sexy lesbian time out of context. Pfft, I have porn for that.


...even if it's to bolster the weak sales, I still don't agree with.
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