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Title: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: The Alchemist on January 23, 2014, 10:30:48 AM
I didn't see a thread on anime here, since the description of this board stated we could talk about anime I thought I would start a thread on it.

List some of your recommendations for anime.

I recommend:

Clannad and Clannad~Afterstory

Naruto and Naruto Shippuden

Trigun

Hidamari Sketch, Hidamari SKetch X 365, Hidamari Sketch Honycomb

Nichijou

Puella Magi Madoka Magica

And much more!!

I would like to hear your recommendations too!

Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: Deep Funk on January 23, 2014, 11:46:13 AM
Berserk (if you like the story, graphic violence and gore)

Classic Dragonball Z (after Namek the series goes downhill, GT is terrible)

Bleach (minus the ridiculous filler, the first 64/65 episodes are the best)

Van Hellsing (if you like the graphic violence and gore)

Mobile Suit Gundam (the RX78-series, classic)

Hunter X (an acquired taste)

Naruto (if you like ninjas who do not play hide and seek and fight rather inefficiently)

Attack On Titan (the first season was very good)

Gundam 00 (good plot, nice update on the series)
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: namaiki on January 23, 2014, 12:33:20 PM
Crest of the Stars, PlanetES.

I only meant to recommend the above two but I went through my anime list to find some others that, if I remember correctly, should be okay as well.

Toradora, Usagi Drop, Kokoro Connect, Natsuiro Kiseki, Kimagure Orange Road, Ichigo Mashimaro, Potemayo, Kimikiss, Welcome to the NHK, Zegapain, Full Metal Panic and Fumoffu, Hantsuki, Canvas 2, Honey and Clover, Tetsuwan Birdy Decode, Higurashi, School Rumble, Kamisama Kazoku, I''s Pure, Lain, Maria-sama ga Miteru, general all/most Studio Ghibli movies recommendation, K-on! jan-jaka-jan, Karekano, Fancy Lala, Mitsudomoe, Narue no Sekai, Mahou no Chocolate, chu2koi, Fireball.

...and while I'm at it, you might as well watch Total Recall, My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic (skip the first two episodes if you must) and Seinfeld.

I'll mention Mizuiro Jidai as well.
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: The Alchemist on January 23, 2014, 01:40:33 PM
Nice lists namaiki and Deep Funk!
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: Maxvla on January 23, 2014, 05:46:04 PM
I've watched so many I've begun to forget which ones I have watched.

I did watch the first season of Attack on Titan and thought it was well done. I just last week finished all 276 episodes of DBZ, a show I've always been curious about, but thought it was too childish to entertain me. It was pretty childish, but I rolled with it and it was alright. After Namek it did seem to go down in quality somewhat, but I also liked the development of Vegeta throughout the whole series.

A few favorites that haven't been mentioned yet:

Claymore
The Twelve Kingdoms
Code Geass
Macross (all of it, though Plus is kind of odd)
The Last Exile
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: mechgamer123 on January 23, 2014, 07:12:31 PM
Oh boy, there's an anime thread on Changstar now too? :D

There are a bunch of good suggestions already, but I have to add in some deeper and less known series too:
Steins;Gate
Shinsekai Yori
Bakamonogatari Series
Sakurasou no pet na kanojo
Kanon

And some other series I like that I'm surprised weren't mentioned yet:
Haruhi Series
Cowboy Bebop
Death Note
Ghost in the Shell

I haven't watched most of the "mainstream" shows because they're too damn long IMO.
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: mvwvm on January 23, 2014, 07:31:29 PM
I used to watch a lot. From the top of my head:
Dennou Coil
Baccano!
Kara no Kyoukai
FLCL
Haibane Renmei
Kaiba
Gankutsuou
Kino no Tabi
Mushishi
Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann
Shinkai Makoto movies
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: Kirosia on January 23, 2014, 08:25:48 PM
I haven't watched animu in ages, but this seems accurate

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/a3b69f18b36f4bcdad40eff9cd942d93/tumblr_mz8enhbvQW1qkjxw1o1_r1_1280.jpg)
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: The Alchemist on January 24, 2014, 12:33:54 AM
LOL!! awesome post!!! Kirosa! And great picks and lists everyone! Keep them coming!!
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: thegunner100 on January 24, 2014, 03:49:27 AM
I don't really watch much anime anymore since I'm more interested in visual novels, but the Aria series is my favorite. Now if anyone wants to talk VNs... feel free to PM me :P
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: The Alchemist on January 24, 2014, 05:07:58 AM
Heya Gunner, after we discuss some more Touhou albums, I would like to discuss Visual Novels with you, will send PM. Maybe you can start a thread about them.    8)
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: Deep Funk on January 24, 2014, 09:36:06 AM
There is so much interesting anime that the choice is sometimes overwhelming. "Cowboy Bebop" is next for me.

I heard about "Aria" via a Bennet The Sage I think.

I like the obscure anime from the eithies in particular. Gundam Wing, one of my favourite anime series and the first one I watched still had that eighties feel to it in the plot and the characters. Gundam Wing is an acquired taste though since it also revolves around somewhat philosophical dialogues about war and peace.
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: phillip88 on January 24, 2014, 04:41:17 PM
I hate how Claymore and Berserk animes downplayed many things from the manga. Those two were among the best which I've read, and when I see the anime, I was like...

I love Hellsing very much. Kept on re-read the whole thing. Watched the anime, actually the 2nd version (more graphic) was closer to the manga which i like (the main villian is the same General). However, due to some circumstances, it didn't end at the final release.

One of the many stories which i love is GTO. Never forget GTO! While the anime itself didn't give a very happening ending like how Onizuka battled the few angels in the manga, it was one of the better made manga-to-anime that I've watched.

While we are at it, WORKING! is nice! Love the style more than Nichijou (which sometimes I find it too weird). Shigofumi has quite unique concept. I wanna watch Suzumiya Haruhi!!!
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: Deep Funk on January 30, 2014, 09:17:25 PM
If I had the money and space I would have been an avid manga collector. Unfortunately that was one hobby too many...

I just watched Code Geass. It starts like a run of the mill Gundam plot but after that the story and plot twists become better and just works in the context of the story. In the past two days I finished R1, R2 and had a taste of R3. The script writers really took the best of older series and made everything work. Code Geass really is as good as I was told.

Minuses: the animation is nothing special if you ask me; the subtle fan-service is also unnecessary, philosophical dialogues and themes are present (a matter of taste).
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: shipsupt on January 30, 2014, 09:21:37 PM
Isn't there a thread for this at Head-Fi?

Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: Deep Funk on January 30, 2014, 11:10:55 PM
1. Yes.

2. I no longer visit HF.

3. Speaking for myself I do not often have time to a finish a season of any Anime.

4. Do you find anime silly? It is, there are good ones though.
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: Maxvla on January 30, 2014, 11:41:03 PM
I don't mind having a thread here. Most of us don't devote our lives to anime and manga like the majority of participants on the head-fi version.
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: TMRaven on January 31, 2014, 03:39:02 AM
I only really like one piece, and I've just started collecting the manga as well as portrait of pirates, along with watching the anime.

Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: jGray91 on January 31, 2014, 05:06:03 AM
The head fi version is more like a chat room for people with a singular (well dual really) interest, only it derails far more often than I like. I've been there, and for what it's worth, achieved 2k post in 2 months...

This is more level headed, which is a good thing.
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I thought Code Geass won't have R3? And the "on going" OVA of Akito is more a parallel story to R2, I thought.
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One piece is by far my most favourite on going shonen manga. It just works better than say bleach or naruto or fairy tale for me.
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: Deep Funk on January 31, 2014, 08:25:34 AM
The Akito story is also called R3 and has the duration of an OVA apparently. The White Knight and Lelouch/Zero come back too. I am curious how the writers are going to achieve the cohesiveness and consistency of the first two seasons.
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: jGray91 on January 31, 2014, 08:46:32 AM
Oh shit... that sounds very important.
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: jGray91 on January 31, 2014, 08:50:51 AM
Oh and if any of you guys have a fairly good tolerance against sexy outfit and likes ridiculous over the top fights, go watch Kill La Kill. Apparently reddit also says that it's actually not misogynistic at how they portray the main characters. I don't know about that, as whenever I overthink things, I melt down.

Just watch it for the ridiculous fights and nonsense (in a good way) plot and premise. And masterful use of limited budget (practically web anime budget for a TV anime).
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: planx on January 31, 2014, 09:22:55 AM
Deep Funk... I just rewatched Cowboy Bebop after watching it when I was younger a long time ago and all I have to say is wow. Emotionally, nothing hit me as hard as CB... Maybe I was too young to fully grasp the anime at the time, but now since my balls are bigger, CB is definitely top 3, if not number 1.

See you space cowboy...

EDIT: The ending of Code Geass devastated me quite a lot as well, but I never knew that CB would kill me in the inside more.
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: jGray91 on January 31, 2014, 12:20:24 PM
Oh and if any of you guys have a fairly good tolerance against sexy outfit and likes ridiculous over the top fights, go watch Kill La Kill. Apparently reddit also says that it's actually not misogynistic at how they portray the main characters. I don't know about that, as whenever I overthink things, I melt down.

Just watch it for the ridiculous fights and nonsense (in a good way) plot and premise. And masterful use of limited budget (practically web anime budget for a TV anime).
Hmm I've missed the time to edit this?

PS this is still an ongoing show, and there are legal site(s) to stream it. Ask, and ye shall receive.
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: namaiki on January 31, 2014, 03:07:05 PM
I guess this post fits here. I've been hooked on this song for a few days now. Not that I know what any of the words mean..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgbRiAp9fnc
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: ocswing on January 31, 2014, 08:07:49 PM
Hmm I've missed the time to edit this?

PS this is still an ongoing show, and there are legal site(s) to stream it. Ask, and ye shall receive.

If legality is an issue many current running shows are available on Crunchyroll. If you sign up for a pay account you get episodes as they come out. If you stick with the free option then episodes are delayed a week.
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: CCS on January 31, 2014, 10:26:32 PM
One piece is by far my most favourite on going shonen manga. It just works better than say bleach or naruto or fairy tale for me.

You should try reading Silver Spoon and TWGOK as well. Silver Spoon, arguably, isn't as much a shonen manga as these, but TWGOK is definitely a shonen manga (almost down to its very core) and does it better than any have since FMA ended. I love One Piece to bits, especially the current arc, but TWGOK is almost always just a little bit better than OP.

Edit: Nanatsu no Taizai, Beelzebub and UQ Holder (if you've read Negima and enjoyed it) are also some honorable mentions.
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: Kirosia on February 01, 2014, 04:27:51 AM
I suddenly remembered Tenshi na Konamaiki (Cheeky Angel). It's about a guy who becomes a girl because of this prick genie, and there's these three or four stereotypes who spend each episode stalking him/her. Opening and ending themes are done by Yuuka Saegusa, I listen to them every now and right now. "Whenever I Think of You" actually has different lyrics in the official track. You can probably watch the whole series on YT.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pW3qr5A4rs4



Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: jGray91 on February 01, 2014, 08:05:12 AM
Hmm,  how close is TWGOK to being the stereotypical harem show? I don't really like harem shows so that's why I haven't check TWGOK.
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: namaiki on February 01, 2014, 10:23:17 AM
Hmm,  how close is TWGOK to being the stereotypical harem show? I don't really like harem shows so that's why I haven't check TWGOK.
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Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: phillip88 on February 01, 2014, 11:35:19 AM
I suddenly remembered Tenshi na Konamaiki (Cheeky Angel). It's about a guy who becomes a girl because of this prick genie, and there's these three or four stereotypes who spend each episode stalking him/her. Opening and ending themes are done by Yuuka Saegusa, I listen to them every now and right now. "Whenever I Think of You" actually has different lyrics in the official track. You can probably watch the whole series on YT.

Finished watching it. Just realized, she was a...
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: jGray91 on February 01, 2014, 02:49:46 PM
Hmm,  how close is TWGOK to being the stereotypical harem show? I don't really like harem shows so that's why I haven't check TWGOK.
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Hmm, maybe I'll check it out when I'm bored.
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: CCS on February 01, 2014, 03:15:22 PM
Hmm,  how close is TWGOK to being the stereotypical harem show? I don't really like harem shows so that's why I haven't check TWGOK.
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Hmm, maybe I'll check it out when I'm bored.

If you choose to check it out, read the manga rather than watching the anime. Also, it starts out as if it's gonna be a typical harem series, but the author either intentionally did that for setup purposes rather than anything else or had a change of heart part of the way through and decided to take the series in a completely different direction. It becomes a much more serious series than it lets on toward the beginning. mechgamer can probably back me on this one as (I believe?) he has read a significant portion of the series as well, if he's not completely caught up by this point.
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: mechgamer123 on February 02, 2014, 10:24:11 AM
If you choose to check it out, read the manga rather than watching the anime. Also, it starts out as if it's gonna be a typical harem series, but the author either intentionally did that for setup purposes rather than anything else or had a change of heart part of the way through and decided to take the series in a completely different direction. It becomes a much more serious series than it lets on toward the beginning. mechgamer can probably back me on this one as (I believe?) he has read a significant portion of the series as well, if he's not completely caught up by this point.
Yeah, I can definitely back you up on that. I caught up on it (everything but this week's chapter) and I really enjoyed it. Ironically, it doesn't really get harem-ey until it gets a bit more serious. The harem is handled very well though and there's enough of a plot going on that you can sort of shrug it off.

Now, to turn the tides, have you read Molester Man yet? Jgray can back me up in that it's a good, short manga that you can't judge by its title.


And in other sort of but not totally anime news, I am completely and totally obsessed with songs from the Key Sounds Label and the games Key makes (most of which have been adapted to anime that I've watched, there's the tie-in. :P) and I have no damn idea why. I'm playing Rewrite right now and it's definitely different than the rest of the Key stories. Guess that's what happens when you get the writer of Higurashi on board though, hehe.
Anyway tl;dr I have about $300 worth of KSL CDs (and one vinyl!) that I got over the summer.
I love the game/anime opening songs:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3rnq5zHe1k
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sq5sBhVTSkg
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: jGray91 on February 02, 2014, 11:29:35 AM
Yup, definitely can back up with Molester Man. While I can't say how authentic the relationship is *cough*, I can say that it's not stagnant, and progress rather naturally (or unnaturally relative to common manga/anime standards). The characters are well thought out and expanded, the plot is easy to follow and relateable, and it's a pretty saccharine manga to read overall. Get this, it is apparently based on a "true" story posted on 2chan. Either case, it's a splendid little romance manga. Oh, and I should emphasis that it's not high school aged, but 20s/30s.

Going a bit weirder, go check out Onani Master Kurosawa (Masterbator Kurosawa). Now that's decidedly Japanese, but not at the same time. Same mangaka, high school romance without the usual not-going-anywhere trope, and lots of shout outs to other series, and same as Molester Man, have excellent characters that you care as more like a friend than a wet dream character. mechy can back me up on this. headbang


TWGOK now sounds quite appealing. Maybe I should check it out then.

At this rate, this thread might get too fast, so yeah...
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: CCS on February 02, 2014, 02:35:12 PM
If you choose to check it out, read the manga rather than watching the anime. Also, it starts out as if it's gonna be a typical harem series, but the author either intentionally did that for setup purposes rather than anything else or had a change of heart part of the way through and decided to take the series in a completely different direction. It becomes a much more serious series than it lets on toward the beginning. mechgamer can probably back me on this one as (I believe?) he has read a significant portion of the series as well, if he's not completely caught up by this point.
Yeah, I can definitely back you up on that. I caught up on it (everything but this week's chapter) and I really enjoyed it. Ironically, it doesn't really get harem-ey until it gets a bit more serious. The harem is handled very well though and there's enough of a plot going on that you can sort of shrug it off.

The thing is, it's not a real harem. It's not handled like harem manga because the main character in a harem series is actually interested in romance or sex or what have you, while Keima just can't bring himself to give a damn. He's more interested in doing things that are important and that matter to everyone and he doesn't seem to have any real love interest at all.

Rather than a traditional harem manga, it's more like he's just a big damn hero who has a few girls following him around.
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: jGray91 on February 02, 2014, 04:15:40 PM
Well at least he's a big damn hero so it's justified that he has chicks following him then, unlike other harem MC where they're just Yuji Everylead the Bland.
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: Panda on February 03, 2014, 03:06:59 AM
Who has seen the new (ep 5) of Space Dandy?  p:8

Phenomenal  walk the plank2
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: CCS on February 03, 2014, 03:30:30 AM
Well at least he's a big damn hero so it's justified that he has chicks following him then, unlike other harem MC where they're just Yuji Everylead the Bland.

Oh yeah. He's definitely a hero. He won't appear like he is at first, but by the time the huge mega-arc starts (story arcs are similar to One Piece, where you'll have two or three related arcs connecting to each other, making a 100+ chapter long continuous focus on a specific plot element), you'll notice that he's more of a hero than most typical shonen characters. Ichigo and Naruto ain't got shit on Keima. Luffy might, though, and Oz Vessalius and Edward Elric might both have him beat for now.
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: Maxvla on February 04, 2014, 08:15:15 AM
Working my way through Hunter X Hunter. I've had this for a long time and never got past the first few minutes, but after seeing the recommendation here I made it through and am enjoying it. Been binging through it a bit, 48 episodes in 4 days... So far I'm liking how they handle supernatural abilities. Strong, but not DBZ/Naruto strong, at least so far, and more surgical/strategic.
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: Deep Funk on February 04, 2014, 12:50:18 PM
Working my way through Hunter X Hunter. I've had this for a long time and never got past the first few minutes, but after seeing the recommendation here I made it through and am enjoying it. Been binging through it a bit, 48 episodes in 4 days... So far I'm liking how they handle supernatural abilities. Strong, but not DBZ/Naruto strong, at least so far, and more surgical/strategic.

Yep, the strength of the series lies in the story and the character development. This series shows that there is more than power-ups and transformations to keep the relations between friend and foe interesting. The Greed Island story adds an extra dimension to what the series does well.

By the way, Kurapika's fight versus Ubogin counts for me as more memorable the most shonen anime fights by just being an interesting and somewhat believable blend between physical strength, supernatural powers and strategy. Hunter X was a very well written series...
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: jGray91 on February 04, 2014, 04:06:42 PM
I can't believe that I liked TWGOK. I'm pretty I was burned out with harem(-looking) manga and anime for the longest time, since the fantasy behind it is a bit too repeated, but this one feels kind of different. Maybe I wrongly assumed it is one. Will be sticking with this.
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: mechgamer123 on February 04, 2014, 07:00:41 PM
If you choose to check it out, read the manga rather than watching the anime. Also, it starts out as if it's gonna be a typical harem series, but the author either intentionally did that for setup purposes rather than anything else or had a change of heart part of the way through and decided to take the series in a completely different direction. It becomes a much more serious series than it lets on toward the beginning. mechgamer can probably back me on this one as (I believe?) he has read a significant portion of the series as well, if he's not completely caught up by this point.
Yeah, I can definitely back you up on that. I caught up on it (everything but this week's chapter) and I really enjoyed it. Ironically, it doesn't really get harem-ey until it gets a bit more serious. The harem is handled very well though and there's enough of a plot going on that you can sort of shrug it off.

The thing is, it's not a real harem. It's not handled like harem manga because the main character in a harem series is actually interested in romance or sex or what have you, while Keima just can't bring himself to give a damn. He's more interested in doing things that are important and that matter to everyone and he doesn't seem to have any real love interest at all.

Rather than a traditional harem manga, it's more like he's just a big damn hero who has a few girls following him around.
Okay, I'd definitely agree that it's not handled like the typical harem series. Although it's hard to tell the motives of most MCs in harem shows since they're generally really dumb, Keima is a genius and as you said, a hero.

I can't believe that I liked TWGOK. I'm pretty I was burned out with harem(-looking) manga and anime for the longest time, since the fantasy behind it is a bit too repeated, but this one feels kind of different. Maybe I wrongly assumed it is one. Will be sticking with this.
Hehe, excellent! How many chapters have you read so far?
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: CCS on February 05, 2014, 12:15:02 AM
I can't believe that I liked TWGOK. I'm pretty I was burned out with harem(-looking) manga and anime for the longest time, since the fantasy behind it is a bit too repeated, but this one feels kind of different. Maybe I wrongly assumed it is one. Will be sticking with this.

Pandora Hearts and Silver Spoon are very good manga as well. If you catch up with TWGOK quickly, you may want to look over those two as well. I assume you've already read FMA, so I won't bore you with that recommendation. Have you read or watched FLCL? If not, do both. If you've done and not the other, then do the other. If you've already done both, go ahead and do them again. It won't take much time and it's definitely worth it.  ;D
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: Maxvla on February 05, 2014, 04:54:49 AM
Yep, the strength of the series lies in the story and the character development. This series shows that there is more than power-ups and transformations to keep the relations between friend and foe interesting. The Greed Island story adds an extra dimension to what the series does well.

By the way, Kurapika's fight versus Ubogin counts for me as more memorable the most shonen anime fights by just being an interesting and somewhat believable blend between physical strength, supernatural powers and strategy. Hunter X was a very well written series...
Just finished that episode. It was over faster than I expected and won't be as memorable to me, probably, but I do agree it was well done.
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: CCS on February 07, 2014, 09:25:37 PM
To anybody who reads TWGOK, it finally happened. Looking forward to reading more in two weeks.
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: Maxvla on February 10, 2014, 03:41:33 AM
Just finished Hunter. Great show all around. I'm glad they kept that great formula of supernatural and real and a healthy dose of strategy to the end.

Noticed there is a new 2011 reboot. Anyone seen that? Not sure I want to taint my memory of the original by watching it if it's not as good. I did notice there are many more episodes than the original, though. Does the story continue further?
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: jGray91 on February 10, 2014, 08:48:13 AM
I follow a blog that watches the new one, but I didn't really follow what they write about it, or if they watched the previous one. But the impression I got is that the new one is worthy of a watch for fans.
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: mechgamer123 on February 10, 2014, 07:09:26 PM
It looks like on MyAnimeList, the ratings for the reboot are even higher than the original: http://myanimelist.net/anime/11061/Hunter_x_Hunter_(2011)
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: Deep Funk on February 10, 2014, 08:04:48 PM
The renewed Hunter X series certainly looks better. On the other side the animation of the older series had an atmospheric charm of its own that is often mentioned when old eighties and nineties cartoons are compared with the more slick and glossy cartoons of the past ten years.

On a side note. I just started with Cowboy Bebop and I have only one word for it: sublime. I just finished the sixth episode and I am going to take my time for this series. Interestingly enough both the Japanese dub and English dub work well with the characters. 
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: Maxvla on February 11, 2014, 02:02:01 AM
Yeah Bebop is one of those rare ones where the English dub is actually decent.
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: mechgamer123 on February 11, 2014, 07:24:25 AM
Too bad Space dandy isn't anywhere near as epic as Cowboy Bebop was...
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: CCS on February 11, 2014, 04:30:51 PM
Too bad Space dandy isn't anywhere near as epic as Cowboy Bebop was...

It's not supposed to be. It never was supposed to be. It's simply a lowbrow comedy made by insanely talented people in the anime industry. And to be fair, most of the show has been pretty good. It had one very flat episode and the first episode didn't work too well in the first half, but the ramen episode was solid and the last three have been great. The Dead Rising references, especially, were very well-handled in what was easily SD's strangest episode so far.

The trick to enjoying Space Dandy is to come in with zero preconceived notions of what the show should be and just enjoy the, most likely, ridiculous ride.
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: Maxvla on February 12, 2014, 09:13:43 AM
Just finished Sword Art Online, a virtual reality MMO based anime. As someone who's spent years in MMOs, I could certainly relate to many things. Very good show, IMO.
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: jGray91 on February 12, 2014, 10:23:28 AM
Really need to drop my "stop liking things I don't like" mentality.
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: mechgamer123 on February 14, 2014, 07:52:10 AM
Too bad Space dandy isn't anywhere near as epic as Cowboy Bebop was...

It's not supposed to be. It never was supposed to be. It's simply a lowbrow comedy made by insanely talented people in the anime industry. And to be fair, most of the show has been pretty good. It had one very flat episode and the first episode didn't work too well in the first half, but the ramen episode was solid and the last three have been great. The Dead Rising references, especially, were very well-handled in what was easily SD's strangest episode so far.

The trick to enjoying Space Dandy is to come in with zero preconceived notions of what the show should be and just enjoy the, most likely, ridiculous ride.
I know, keep in mind I didn't even watch Cowboy Bebop until over last Christmas Break, and I only watched it then because SD was coming out, so I guess you could say I was coming in with ridiculously high expectations.

And I should mention I haven't watched the last two episodes or so. Hopefully I'll have time to catch up next week.

Just finished Sword Art Online, a virtual reality MMO based anime. As someone who's spent years in MMOs, I could certainly relate to many things. Very good show, IMO.
Ah SAO, I don't think there's ever been such a polarizing show as SAO in recent history...
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: CCS on February 14, 2014, 03:11:08 PM
Too bad Space dandy isn't anywhere near as epic as Cowboy Bebop was...

It's not supposed to be. It never was supposed to be. It's simply a lowbrow comedy made by insanely talented people in the anime industry. And to be fair, most of the show has been pretty good. It had one very flat episode and the first episode didn't work too well in the first half, but the ramen episode was solid and the last three have been great. The Dead Rising references, especially, were very well-handled in what was easily SD's strangest episode so far.

The trick to enjoying Space Dandy is to come in with zero preconceived notions of what the show should be and just enjoy the, most likely, ridiculous ride.
I know, keep in mind I didn't even watch Cowboy Bebop until over last Christmas Break, and I only watched it then because SD was coming out, so I guess you could say I was coming in with ridiculously high expectations.

And I should mention I haven't watched the last two episodes or so. Hopefully I'll have time to catch up next week.

Just finished Sword Art Online, a virtual reality MMO based anime. As someone who's spent years in MMOs, I could certainly relate to many things. Very good show, IMO.
Ah SAO, I don't think there's ever been such a polarizing show as SAO in recent history...
Even more so than Kill la Kill? That show has been generating some serious controversy and people are constantly arguing about it. I guess it depends on what part of it is polarizing. Are you talking about people debating the quality of the show, plot, etc. or about people discussing social issues related to the show (since this is what more of Kill la Kill's controversy is about)?
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: jGray91 on February 14, 2014, 06:12:05 PM
Kill La Kill's issue is more like what the overall style it is - scantily clad girls that is highly misogynistic and pandering to the usual crowd - vs the looking deeper - something about putting aside what common people view (the slutwear) and making that your inner power or something. I say, fuck all that. I'm just there for the ridiculous fights and masterful space-time manipulation of their budget into making high quality nonsense (in a good way). And the most amazing Mankanshouku Mako, bestest supporting character in forever.
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: CCS on February 14, 2014, 08:25:07 PM
Kill La Kill's issue is more like what the overall style it is - scantily clad girls that is highly misogynistic and pandering to the usual crowd - vs the looking deeper - something about putting aside what common people view (the slutwear) and making that your inner power or something. I say, fuck all that. I'm just there for the ridiculous fights and masterful space-time manipulation of their budget into making high quality nonsense (in a good way). And the most amazing Mankanshouku Mako, bestest supporting character in forever.

That would indeed be the social issue I was referring to. A lot of people view the show as being misogynistic and sexist, while another group believes that it is more about sexual empowerment, etc. And then there's a third group of people that doesn't pay attention to much of that at all and just watches the anime and enjoys it. It sounds like you're firmly in that third group of people.
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: Maxvla on February 14, 2014, 09:03:57 PM
I think a lot of the SAO controversy stems from people not letting the story tell itself and assuming they know what it's about. Reviews I've seen berate it for being too much of a love story, not enough action and too little focus on the game itself. While I can see their point, if the story is mostly about the love story, guess what, it's a love story wrapped in a VRMMORPG package and thus should only support the story, not be it. People rate the second season significantly worse than the first, but I think the second is just as good if not better is some regards. I'm not sure what they are going to do in the third season. I can only think it will be bad from here as the main story is fully wrapped up.

I started Psycho Pass the other night. Interesting first few episodes.
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: mechgamer123 on February 15, 2014, 12:13:15 AM
Even more so than Kill la Kill? That show has been generating some serious controversy and people are constantly arguing about it. I guess it depends on what part of it is polarizing. Are you talking about people debating the quality of the show, plot, etc. or about people discussing social issues related to the show (since this is what more of Kill la Kill's controversy is about)?
I personally think so. I can see how Kill la Kill would be controversial, but I think most of those arguments revolve around the kamukis (or whatever they're called).
SAO has some more fundamental problems with the story though, which leave some people either loving or hating the second half of the show.
I think this pretty much sums up my feelings for the second half: (starting at around 3:05)
http://youtu.be/7dxbWP1DBXo?t=3m5s

I think a lot of the SAO controversy stems from people not letting the story tell itself and assuming they know what it's about. Reviews I've seen berate it for being too much of a love story, not enough action and too little focus on the game itself. While I can see their point, if the story is mostly about the love story, guess what, it's a love story wrapped in a VRMMORPG package and thus should only support the story, not be it. People rate the second season significantly worse than the first, but I think the second is just as good if not better is some regards. I'm not sure what they are going to do in the third season. I can only think it will be bad from here as the main story is fully wrapped up.

I started Psycho Pass the other night. Interesting first few episodes.
I guess there are those issues too, but honestly I enjoyed the premise and execution of the first part of the story, I didn't think there was too much romance or not enough action or whatever, I thought it was a pretty good balance. My beef is with the second arc of the story though. See above video.

Ahh Psycho Pass. Probably one of Gen Urobuchi's best works. I don't remember what episode it was, but there's one episode where something happens and I thought it was one of the most profound scenes I've ever seen. Generally I think I see some of Urobuchi's stories as overly profound though, so my opinion probably isn't worth much.
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: jGray91 on February 15, 2014, 12:02:17 PM
@CCS, not to toot my own horn or anything.... http://fantasyrumbahp.wordpress.com/2014/01/22/doing-anime-wrong-my-anime-world-is-at-peace-now/

tl;dr, some conversation with a twitter-friend (FWIW) about anime, and I wrote about why I started anime in a vague-ish disjointed way (mostly for wanting sci-fi but with Japanese visual), and end up for "fuck everything, let's go for bonkers and nonsense type anime". Once in a while though, some good sci-fi/fantasy/whatever that's not just either the usual moe thing came up, like Shinsekai Yori or Psycho-Pass or Gatchaman CROWDS and my foolish dream lights up again, only to be dashed. Again.

And Psycho-Pass is, IMO, the best series that have its main female character develop very very well. Throwing around philosophical phrases around makes it a bit pretentious I feel, but cyberpunk detective story is always a +1 in my heart. Sadly, "Made by Gen Urobochi" is not a guarantee of good shit anymore, if you have certain expectations tied with that phrase though.
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: Deep Funk on February 15, 2014, 12:42:28 PM
I tried the first two episodes of Kill La Kill. It does not cross the line like Apocalypse Zero or Violence Jack. The Humour is very slapstick oriented and over the top. For what it does some of the action scenes are fantastically absurd and are worth the build up.

Entertaining enough for variety's sake.
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: CCS on February 15, 2014, 06:38:41 PM
@CCS, not to toot my own horn or anything.... http://fantasyrumbahp.wordpress.com/2014/01/22/doing-anime-wrong-my-anime-world-is-at-peace-now/

tl;dr, some conversation with a twitter-friend (FWIW) about anime, and I wrote about why I started anime in a vague-ish disjointed way (mostly for wanting sci-fi but with Japanese visual), and end up for "fuck everything, let's go for bonkers and nonsense type anime". Once in a while though, some good sci-fi/fantasy/whatever that's not just either the usual moe thing came up, like Shinsekai Yori or Psycho-Pass or Gatchaman CROWDS and my foolish dream lights up again, only to be dashed. Again.

And Psycho-Pass is, IMO, the best series that have its main female character develop very very well. Throwing around philosophical phrases around makes it a bit pretentious I feel, but cyberpunk detective story is always a Dubstep Girl agrees in my heart. Sadly, "Made by Gen Urobochi" is not a guarantee of good shit anymore, if you have certain expectations tied with that phrase though.

The thing is, I generally don't watch all that much anime at all. I typically read manga, and when I do, it's for one of four things: 1) A good plot driven story w/ or w/o over the top action 2) A plot-less manga that's all about over the top action and/or general nonsense 3) A believable(ish) slice of life story or 4) I want a really frustrating, troll-ish romance that's bound to piss somebody off (Seo Kouji's works are good examples). Number 1 is the type I like the best and there are some very good plot-heavy, even sometimes deep, manga and anime. However, they do indeed exist in the smallest numbers compared to the other three and would have a hard time competing with classic western literature. I disagree with the notion that the plots are of lower quality than some western dramas and other things, though, but that's a subjective preference.
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: Maxvla on February 17, 2014, 05:28:16 AM
Finished Psycho Pass. Excellent, but not quite a top pick for me. I liked the realistic ending rather than the typical anime finish.
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: mechgamer123 on February 21, 2014, 10:13:28 AM
Finished Psycho Pass. Excellent, but not quite a top pick for me. I liked the realistic ending rather than the typical anime finish.
Looks like there's going to be a movie and second season if you thought it was lacking like I did.
What did you think of the first episode with the helmets? I loved the blatant commentary on today's society.
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: Maxvla on February 21, 2014, 05:12:45 PM
OK I'll be on the lookout for that. There was a ton of blatant commentary, it sort of overwhelms at points, but still good.

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In other news I started Black Lagoon. Watched the first season and a bunch of short specials that were hilarious. Good, if a bit silly, show so far.
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: CCS on February 22, 2014, 12:47:02 AM
To anybody who has watched both the original Neon Genesis Evangelion series (including EoE) and what exists so far of the Rebuild series:

Is Rebuild worth watching? I've read/heard mixed reviews. Most of the negative reviews are centered around making a lot of the characters shallower and developing them less than Eva did, as well as diverging from the original series' focus on psychoanalysis. Is this true and are these flaws significant enough that it will disappoint someone who loves the original series or should I go ahead and watch Rebuild after all?
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: Maxvla on February 22, 2014, 01:37:45 AM
Eva was my first anime. No way I'm tarnishing my memory with a re-hash, good or bad.
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: jGray91 on February 22, 2014, 03:32:17 AM
To anybody who has watched both the original Neon Genesis Evangelion series (including EoE) and what exists so far of the Rebuild series:

Is Rebuild worth watching? I've read/heard mixed reviews. Most of the negative reviews are centered around making a lot of the characters shallower and developing them less than Eva did, as well as diverging from the original series' focus on psychoanalysis. Is this true and are these flaws significant enough that it will disappoint someone who loves the original series or should I go ahead and watch Rebuild after all?

The complaints seems logical to me if you think about it: the original guys behind them already left the studio, made a new studio and is currently spiritually succeeding Gurren Lagann with clothing shonen; and IMO for the depth expected from character development in NGE, OVA is a bit too limiting.

@Maxvla, also if you have the time/after you finished/done with Black Lagoon, try checking out Shinsekai Yori/From the New World. Main criticism for it is that the story starts off slow, the main characters are a bit bland, something shocking happened that heteromale neckbeard viewers went berserk and ragequit, but it's one of the best "human plays god and the consequence is dire" anime since a long time, one of the best world building I've seen, and it's set in a post apocalyptic earth, but not madmax style or dystopia cyberpunk style. Also psychics and slaves.

But whatever you do, DO NOT check out the manga of the same name since it's a heteromale neckbearded disgrace of the source. Disgusting, stripping out all the complexities in the anime (and original real-novel IIRC) just for sexy lesbian time out of context. Pfft, I have porn for that.


...even if it's to bolster the weak sales, I still don't agree with.
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: Deep Funk on February 22, 2014, 11:19:14 AM
I just finished watching the complete Cowboy Bebop series. If anything there is nothing to add to what I said before. This is the only series where I actually took the time to listen to the opening soundtrack, every episode.

This series and the first series of Mobile Suit Gundam really are classic for the influence they still have on anime. 
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: Hands on February 24, 2014, 04:40:20 AM
Attack On Titan (the first season was very good)

Is there going to be more than one season? I have 4 episodes left in S1 and was wondering where they were taking it or how they were going to wrap it up.

Awesome show, though. Also really over the top at point (character gets emotional over something small, starts screaming irrationally, screen starts shaking, and whooshing noises play for extra effect...ANIME), which is particularly funny given the show's dark context.
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: Deep Funk on February 24, 2014, 08:10:58 AM
Apparently the second season is in the works. You can only hope the team of writers, artists and musicians is up for it.

Attack on Titan kind of set a standard for itself and contemporary anime. If the makers pull off a Code Geass R2 this series becomes already semi-classic just because of the generated hype of the first series.

I recently tried some Sword Art Online episodes. Bland but not bad at all. 
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: jGray91 on February 24, 2014, 12:37:10 PM
AoT S2 should be a given, considering the acclaim and super fast integration into non-otakus "anime of choice", right up there with SAO and before, Naruto, One Piece, DBZ. If anything, I'd recommend it for new people that are curious of "these Japanese porny cartoons. I mean they're not all porn, right?" along with FMA and Cowboy Bebop, for example and for breadth. After that, it's just a matter of "so what do you like about X, and would like more of it?".
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And obviously, KILL LA KILL upped its ante again, much like how its spiritual predecessors always upped its ante. Anime needs more over the top WTFness (but not too much) than the constant slice of life blah. So far though, every season has it recently.
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Speaking of over the top, go watch Jojo's Bizarre Adventure (2012). A phenomenal adaptation for a manga epic that has be going for at least 20 years. Also loved it before it was cool. :P
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: Deep Funk on February 24, 2014, 03:07:48 PM
For what it is I found Kill La Kill more likeable than expected. You must really like it as I find the plot and characters underdeveloped even though the life fiber story line does add more dimensions.

I sometimes still get the biggest chuckle out of old sadomasochistic Tom & Jerry chases. They were once intended for small children  :)p13  :)p8

Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: jGray91 on February 24, 2014, 07:28:45 PM
I can't quite explain why I liked Kill La Kill, maybe none other than it's by the original guys that did NGE, Gurren Lagann and Panty, Stocking and Garterbelt to name a few. Some would say that even the studio makes the plot as they go, and I would believe that lol. At least they probably do have an ending planned, but details schmetails.

What I think happened though is that it never took itself seriously serious, but comically serious. I can switch off my brain for that. Something like say Shinsekai Yori (which is an amazing world-building "after the end" anime), where this is serious serious, I would not appreciate the level of nonsense of Kill La Kill. This I think was what happened when I tried watching Valvrave, a fairly recent Sunrise mecha show with space Nazis and space vampires and space twitter. And time traveling, if I were to believe the blog posts.

Suffice to say I'm a fanboy, and I shouldn't be trusted lol (on Kill La Kill at least).

Don't worry, I prefer the old Tom & Jerry shows much more than the modern ones. Although I do hate how Tom has always been shown to be the evil one, mostly. (loves cats).

In my timezone, I should be asleep...
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: Hands on February 27, 2014, 08:24:08 AM
I pirated the AoT manga. Too interested...must see what happens. I recommended it to a coworker who is also very picky about anime. He crushed through the season in two sittings. Can't wait to learn more about the history, universe, titan motives, etc.

Gurren Lagann was another one of my favorites. Every episode more ridiculous than the last. So over the top.
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: mechgamer123 on February 27, 2014, 09:24:48 AM
I pirated the AoT manga. Too interested...must see what happens. I recommended it to a coworker who is also very picky about anime. He crushed through the season in two sittings. Can't wait to learn more about the history, universe, titan motives, etc.

Gurren Lagann was another one of my favorites. Every episode more ridiculous than the last. So over the top.
Sadly, up until recently, pretty much the only way to enjoy Japanese media that came out within the last three years was to pirate.

Is the manga actually getting good? I read up to chapter 40-something sometime last year, but lost interested because all the faces looked the same and it was hard to keep up with what was happening to Eren every new month. It also seemed like the mangaka keeps introducing new plot devices and then never goes anywhere with them, which was frustrating for me.

Damn, thanks for reminding me I need to watch more of TTGL. I got through the first 5 episodes one night and haven't touched it since because of school and Rewrite.
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: jGray91 on February 27, 2014, 04:43:01 PM
IMO, having followed the AoT manga before the anime adaptation starts, it's best to marathon it since it's too slow for a monthly manga, and all the faces will eventually blend into the same mess of grimdark haunted shell-shocked faces.

TTGL is also best to be marathoned, mostly because you'll be on an adrenaline high. Also episode 4 didn't happen, it's just a fluke.
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: Maxvla on February 27, 2014, 05:50:48 PM
Started Elfen Lied last night. Pretty gruesome. Should be a fun watch.
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: Deep Funk on February 27, 2014, 07:14:35 PM
jGray, do you have experience with CD Japan and their online store?
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: mechgamer123 on February 27, 2014, 07:31:40 PM
Started Elfen Lied last night. Pretty gruesome. Should be a fun watch.
Yes, it is a good watch. If you're unsatisfied with the anime ending, I'd highly recommend reading the manga though.

jGray, do you have experience with CD Japan and their online store?
I'm not jgray but I ordered a couple of CDs from cdjapan's website and they came on time and as advertised.
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: Deep Funk on February 27, 2014, 08:59:21 PM
Thanks, I am considering an account there...
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: jGray91 on February 28, 2014, 03:45:10 AM
jGray, do you have experience with CD Japan and their online store?

I can back mechy on that. It's a good site for importing CDs, and it's not obscenely expensive at it either. I'll say that the shipping is as advertised, although sometimes I do wonder whether it's Malaysia's shitty customs or what that's causing it delay. Don't mind it too much with standard shipping, it's only when I picked EMS. Despite that though, I and my 6 CDs are thankful of them.

And besides, if you're a frequent enough shopper, they have those reward points thing you can use for purchase, both on CDJapan, and its sister site which imports other physical items from Japan. Like headphones.

P.S. I'm not affiliated with them. :P
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: mechgamer123 on February 28, 2014, 01:41:47 PM
You may also want to see if Amazon Japan will ship all the CDs you're looking at to America, they ship most of their CD collection, plus they can sometimes have really good sales/discounts on CDs too. Shipping can be a real killer if you're only ordering a couple CDs... so buy more!
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: CCS on February 28, 2014, 02:37:53 PM
Started Elfen Lied last night. Pretty gruesome. Should be a fun watch.
Yes, it is a good watch. If you're unsatisfied with the anime ending, I'd highly recommend reading the manga though.

You know, I used to like Elfen Lied quite a bit (read the manga) until either another anime fan or a Youtube video (can't remember, it's been a while) pointed out to me that it was derivative of higher quality works such as Evangelion but missed out on what made those works so good in the first place, such as realistic, well-developed characters. Instead, they focus on delivering more action and gore in an attempt to make things edgy or "messed up." For the most part, I would agree with that assessment, and would rather watch something with less generic plot or characters.
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: Maxvla on March 01, 2014, 12:18:56 AM
I'm a little past halfway and yes, the characters don't have a lot of depth, but it's also a 13 episode show. It won't crack my top 10 list for sure, but it's enjoyable, but ultimately forgettable.
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: mechgamer123 on March 01, 2014, 08:29:24 AM
Yes, it is a good watch. If you're unsatisfied with the anime ending, I'd highly recommend reading the manga though.

You know, I used to like Elfen Lied quite a bit (read the manga) until either another anime fan or a Youtube video (can't remember, it's been a while) pointed out to me that it was derivative of higher quality works such as Evangelion but missed out on what made those works so good in the first place, such as realistic, well-developed characters. Instead, they focus on delivering more action and gore in an attempt to make things edgy or "messed up." For the most part, I would agree with that assessment, and would rather watch something with less generic plot or characters.
Yeah, I remember you used to like it, I believe you actually originally recommended I read the manga after finishing the anime, haha.
Hmm, think you could find a link to that person's full argument? I'd be interested in reading more about it. I can kinda see where they're coming from, but it seems like most if not all media borrow themes from other stories to a certain extent. Evangelion could also be described as a masterpiece level story in some regards, so of course other stories aren't going to always going to match the quality of the original.
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: CCS on March 01, 2014, 04:12:02 PM
Yes, it is a good watch. If you're unsatisfied with the anime ending, I'd highly recommend reading the manga though.

You know, I used to like Elfen Lied quite a bit (read the manga) until either another anime fan or a Youtube video (can't remember, it's been a while) pointed out to me that it was derivative of higher quality works such as Evangelion but missed out on what made those works so good in the first place, such as realistic, well-developed characters. Instead, they focus on delivering more action and gore in an attempt to make things edgy or "messed up." For the most part, I would agree with that assessment, and would rather watch something with less generic plot or characters.
Yeah, I remember you used to like it, I believe you actually originally recommended I read the manga after finishing the anime, haha.
Hmm, think you could find a link to that person's full argument? I'd be interested in reading more about it. I can kinda see where they're coming from, but it seems like most if not all media borrow themes from other stories to a certain extent. Evangelion could also be described as a masterpiece level story in some regards, so of course other stories aren't going to always going to match the quality of the original.
I'm not really talking about borrowing themes from Eva. It borrowed characters from Eva (and similar stories), but characterized them in a manner that made them seem "flatter" than the characters in Evangelion. For instance, Lucy was made insane by being bullied as a child and then just starts popping humans as if they're blood balloons. It's hard to relate to her because her mental state seems unrealistic given the relatively minor trauma that she suffered.

We then compare Lucy to Shinji, who went insane for an entirely different reason, and who did not go crazy offscreen, but progressively became that way as a result of the events that had taken place in the story. From the beginning, we already knew that Shinji was somewhat emotionally damaged; he had abandonment issues because his father left him in someone else's care after his mother died. Years later, he's called upon to pilot Eva-01 by his father. He seeks his father's approval, so despite his overwhelming fear in the face of this danger, he jumps into Eva and starts fighting. And he's brutally beaten by the 3rd (I believe) Angel. Unit-01 goes berserk and kills the Angel.

Shinji becomes more capable of piloting the Eva as the show goes on, but he's doing it for the wrong reasons. He's being manipulated by the people around him into using the Eva to wage war on the Angels; Asuka and Rei do the same things and look how they turned out. Basically, Shinji is made insane by fighting a war - where the world is at stake - for his father who doesn't seem to care about him. He watches as his friends are killed or critically injured and continues to fight despite it all. It's not like he hates the world because he was bullied (Lucy); he hates the world because the world is against him for the length of the series.

And of course, Eva was also influenced by many other shows that came before it. The difference is that it did something relatively new with this material and approached its characters and themes in a way that made it powerful. Elfen Lied, on the other hand, is influenced possibly too heavily by other material and it seems to expect its viewers to fill in the blanks a little bit, with regards to characters and themes. Its plot is not particularly bad (in fact, I enjoyed it mostly because of the story it told), but the lack of strong characters and the emphasis on making things as edgy as possible ended up taking away from what Elfen Lied could have been otherwise.

Edit: I think it's a Youtube video that I was watching that brought up some of these problems. I'll try to see if I can find it again.
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: Deep Funk on March 01, 2014, 08:18:45 PM
You make me want to watch Evangelion. The explanation you give about Shinji reminds me of Kamille in Gundam Zeta.

I guess most protagonists/heroes in most anime who are male are either stable and strong (Amuro Ray to an extent or Duo Maxwell) or traumatised and driven to insanity to a degree (Kamille etcetera...). Oh well...
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: CCS on March 02, 2014, 01:05:53 AM
You make me want to watch Evangelion. The explanation you give about Shinji reminds me of Kamille in Gundam Zeta.

I guess most protagonists/heroes in most anime who are male are either stable and strong (Amuro Ray to an extent or Duo Maxwell) or traumatised and driven to insanity to a degree (Kamille etcetera...). Oh well...
One of the franchises that inspired Evangelion was Mobile Suit Gundam, so it could be that some of that found its way into the show. Though, Ikari Shinji was made the way he was for two primary reasons. One, he was an analog for the show's creator, Hideaki Anno, who was depressed and faced a lot of hardship throughout the duration of the series. Two, Shinji was made in order to criticize the NEET culture that was prevalent amongst otaku at the time; in effect, Anno was yelling at anime fans for being unproductive and antisocial. Both of these elements are very, very easy to observe in Ikari Shinji. In a way, Shinji's characterization actually does a pretty good job highlighting some of the major themes of the anime. Unfortunately, the focus on character development and psychoanalysis actually ends up taking away from the plot to some degree, which ends up being a monster of the week show, on a superficial level. In the end, the fights with the Angels tend to be the least interesting aspect of Evangelion, while the characters and their mental and emotional issues end up being far more intriguing.
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: Deep Funk on March 02, 2014, 01:35:05 AM
Thanks, you raise some interesting points.

Usually in the series with a serious undertone a shallow protagonist annoys me. In series with a silly and/or comedic undertone I do not mind a shallow protagonist.

I have to add "Char/Shar/Sha" - whatever spelling you prefer! - to this topic. In the Gundam series he was a traumatised anti-hero, villain and mercenary with Machiavellian tendencies and even in his insane and weak moments he outshone the most other characters in the series. Zechs Marquise/Milliardo Peacecraft was a wonderful update on Char.

I will try some episodes of Evangelion...

 
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: jGray91 on March 02, 2014, 08:54:20 AM
Apparently, GundamInfo, which seems to be the official Gundam Youtube channel, is putting up Gundam Zeta and ZZ on youtube for the whole March. http://www.youtube.com/user/GundamInfo/playlists?shelf_id=13&view=50&sort=dd

Sure, there's other ways to watch them, but I'm trying to do less of that and more through official channels lately.
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: Deep Funk on March 02, 2014, 09:50:10 AM
Zeta is a good follow up of the original series. ZZ changes the gundam story line a bit.

The series are well written but predictable.
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: iRo on March 02, 2014, 10:10:24 AM
Guys, are there any english (fan)subs database sites? I tried to search for it, but no alas - results are full of "watch anime online" sites.

I just can't stand listening to localized VO, original VO/eng subs is the way to go. Any help?
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: jGray91 on March 02, 2014, 11:25:48 AM
Most decent ones are torrents, obviously, and are still seeded until now, but are invite-only. The only one that's not invitation based that I know of is BakaBT. Even then, they have a few blacklisted anime since they adhere to localisation studios' requests (demand?).
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: iRo on March 02, 2014, 11:51:19 AM
I see. I was thinking there might be something like this russian site (http://www.fansubs.ru/), the subs only catalog site where various fansubber groups upload their work. Oh well, guess i'm out of luck. Thanks anyway, jGray.
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: jGray91 on March 02, 2014, 12:42:22 PM
That looks familiar. Depends on whether if you want for current shows or not. For the former, check http://www.shanaproject.com/

I didn't check in depth how that russian one works; too lazy to brush off my Russian :P ; but the one I linked is pretty granular, and it seems to be comparable to the Russian one.

EDIT: or maybe you're referring to something like this? (http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=main) Where it's an anime database and they list which fansubbers are doing a certain show?

EDIT2: also, you can . Back when it was maintained (lol) it's pretty informative.

[url=http://www.crymore.net/2013/10/03/a-somewhat-short-briefer-on-how-to-acquire-anime/And this. (http://www.head-fi.org/t/586040/official-asian-anime-manga-and-music-lounge#post_7982701check this too[/url)
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: iRo on March 02, 2014, 01:07:00 PM
Whoa, i think all of them will be useful. I didn't actually know they kept any info in the first post of Head-Fi Anime thread. Would've checked it otherwise. Thanks again, jGray!
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: jGray91 on March 02, 2014, 01:29:52 PM
No problem. Back when it was 70%-thread-first, that post used to be updated. Now it's a pseudo chatbox lol.
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: Maxvla on March 02, 2014, 05:45:45 PM
Looking for something like this?

http://animesuki.com/releases.php

I used to use that site a lot, but haven't in years.
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: iRo on March 03, 2014, 05:15:39 AM
Thanks Max, though doesn't look like it get updated much. I'll check it out.
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: Maxvla on March 03, 2014, 06:11:51 AM
Started Kino's Journey today. Only seen the first two, but it seems to be an episodic lesson-story. In a way it reminds me of Star Trek TOS ('A Taste of Armageddon') and TNG ('Darmok') where many of the shows had a lesson embedded. Kino's Journey is much more overt about it, but I've enjoyed the first two episodes so far. It's pretty deep psychologically and gets you thinking about how you would react in the situation and makes you want to be honest with yourself about it.
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: DJ DJ on March 04, 2014, 06:26:19 AM
I see. I was thinking there might be something like this russian site (http://www.fansubs.ru/), the subs only catalog site where various fansubber groups upload their work. Oh well, guess i'm out of luck. Thanks anyway, jGray.

I actually have no idea what you're looking for, but I'll just share my process when I decide I want to try a new series.

I typically just look at the article on MyAnimeList (http://myanimelist.net/) to find out whichever subgroup is rated the highest for whatever given show (If Commie hasn't subbed it) then head over to their website to download.  Most groups now host on nyaa (http://www.nyaa.se/) so you could always just go straight there.
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: Deep Funk on March 05, 2014, 08:12:16 PM
I recently watched the Dragonball film "Battle of the Gods" while skipping through the less interesting parts. I am happy TFS exists...
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: mechgamer123 on March 05, 2014, 11:45:14 PM
@CCS: Okay, I definitely see your point now. When you put it that way, Elfen Lied was pretty terrible.

@iRo: I'm assuming you're just looking to see which groups did what shows? http://fansubdb.com/
Otherwise nyaa, bakabt, and some other sites are your friends. ;)
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: jGray91 on March 06, 2014, 05:22:32 PM
Heads up: CDJapan is doing a clearance sale because they upgraded their site's looks. Not much figurines and such if you're into that, but there's a sizable amount of music CDs on sale. Maybe some might be what someone here is looking for.
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: CCS on March 07, 2014, 01:34:53 AM
@CCS: Okay, I definitely see your point now. When you put it that way, Elfen Lied was pretty terrible.
I don't think I'd go that far. I don't think it's terrible. I've just come to recognize that it doesn't do anything new or particularly special with its plot or characters; in other words, it doesn't suck, but it just doesn't stand out. It's not one of the several truly great anime out there and it never will be. It won't be Cowboy Bebop or Samurai Champloo or Ghost in the Shell or Eva and the manga couldn't begin to aspire to the heights of many of the manga I've read.

Again, I don't hate Elfen Lied. I even like it, for what it's worth. But, I recognize it for what it is; it's cheap entertainment that relies almost entirely on its shock value.
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: mechgamer123 on March 07, 2014, 10:15:12 AM
I don't think I'd go that far. I don't think it's terrible. I've just come to recognize that it doesn't do anything new or particularly special with its plot or characters; in other words, it doesn't suck, but it just doesn't stand out. It's not one of the several truly great anime out there and it never will be. It won't be Cowboy Bebop or Samurai Champloo or Ghost in the Shell or Eva and the manga couldn't begin to aspire to the heights of many of the manga I've read.

Again, I don't hate Elfen Lied. I even like it, for what it's worth. But, I recognize it for what it is; it's cheap entertainment that relies almost entirely on its shock value.
Yep, I get what you mean. Elfen Lied was never a top spot in any lists, but I do have to say that the shock value of Elfen Lied, especially since it seemed like every chapter in the manga left off on a cliffhanger, was one of the few things I've experienced in the past year or two that I felt I really wanted to marathon it, and not just because I'm bored.
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: CCS on March 07, 2014, 04:37:09 PM
I don't think I'd go that far. I don't think it's terrible. I've just come to recognize that it doesn't do anything new or particularly special with its plot or characters; in other words, it doesn't suck, but it just doesn't stand out. It's not one of the several truly great anime out there and it never will be. It won't be Cowboy Bebop or Samurai Champloo or Ghost in the Shell or Eva and the manga couldn't begin to aspire to the heights of many of the manga I've read.

Again, I don't hate Elfen Lied. I even like it, for what it's worth. But, I recognize it for what it is; it's cheap entertainment that relies almost entirely on its shock value.
Yep, I get what you mean. Elfen Lied was never a top spot in any lists, but I do have to say that the shock value of Elfen Lied, especially since it seemed like every chapter in the manga left off on a cliffhanger, was one of the few things I've experienced in the past year or two that I felt I really wanted to marathon it, and not just because I'm bored.
I already know that you've been reading TWGOK, but if you want some very good manga that will keep you in marathon mode, you've gotta read FMA, One Piece and - I recall you saying that you already started this one - Negima!. Unfortunately Negima doesn't get very good until a couple of volumes in, but you'll notice a very abrupt change of pace and tone. Once you hit that change, it becomes really, really good. The Seven Deadly Sins is also quite promising, though it's still only in its infancy. Hard to judge what it might become.
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: mechgamer123 on March 08, 2014, 01:17:41 AM
Yup, I do really need to read FMA. It's not very long from what I remember. One Piece I'll probably wait on until I get other series out of the way first that take up less of my time. Our university's anime club had the first few volumes of Negima! so I checked out the first three volumes and I'm reading them right now. I really hope it gets better, because so far it seems like your typical ecchi high school setup.

I'll probably work on more anime/manga when I'm done playing Rewrite, but that's currently taking up most of my free time.
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: Maxvla on March 08, 2014, 05:21:41 AM
Finished Kino's Journey. It continued pretty much in the same manner as I previously mentioned. I really enjoyed it. Probably not memorable enough to be a top pick, but it was thought provoking, and that's more than I can say for most anime. Highly recommended.
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: Deep Funk on March 08, 2014, 04:06:18 PM
Just finished Sword Art Online. The series starts bland with a paper thin plot and towards the end the Disney effect comes in. All additional plot holes are fixed and Kirito/Kazuto and Asuna are together again.

The best part for me is that Kirito/Kazuto after episode 10 acts like a Guts-light as if the writers finally thought "the hero has to be somewhat heroic".

Towards the end the series for me surpasses Attack on Titan. Sword Art Online is an okay series in general and the script is excellent in addressing a number of topics in today's society. The writers of the series pulled of a balancing act between serious, engaging and entertaining that sometimes works very well.   
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: Maxvla on March 08, 2014, 04:36:17 PM
Agreed, DF, I really enjoyed it.
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: Deep Funk on March 08, 2014, 05:05:02 PM
Sword Art Online surprised me more than expected.
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: jGray91 on March 08, 2014, 05:56:30 PM
Hmm, maybe I spent too much time around elitist cynics with regards to anime. But then again, I am kind of a cynic. Not sure if I want to spend time with SAO, seeing a more level-headed response from non-(less?)cynics, instead of the black and white "THIS IS THE BEST ANIME EVAR" vs "THIS IS THE WORST ANIME EVRE".
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I don't remember when I (re)started reading Majin Tantei Nougami Neuro (http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=824), but I say that it's mighty fun. The synopsis says it all:
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The Demon Neuro has a raging hunger for 'mysteries.' Being dissatisfied with his current regime in hell, he’s come into the mortal realm in order to satiate his ever-growing appetite.

Inevitably, for anyone that is familiar with Warhammer 40000 lore, the demon is compared to the Lord of Change Tzeentch. (not that this matters here lol)

I actually don't know what I like in it to be honest. The mysteries and cases in it are often convoluted and hard to make sense, if you can suspend your disbelieve long enough. And since we have a demon, there's some pretty convenient asspull to solve the cases. Maybe it's the villains, most are laughably evil in the good way, some just makes dumb sense, some kind of approaches to very good and well made.

Reading the comments about the manga didn't glean me to any clues. What I do know is that I am marathoning it for some reason.

/shrug

P.S. the art is "nice", the same way how abstract gore in some manga/anime is nice, like Battle Royale.

P. P. S. It hit me that the messy art reminds me how much I like Attack on Titan's messy manga art.
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: CCS on March 09, 2014, 05:05:14 AM
Yup, I do really need to read FMA. It's not very long from what I remember. One Piece I'll probably wait on until I get other series out of the way first that take up less of my time. Our university's anime club had the first few volumes of Negima! so I checked out the first three volumes and I'm reading them right now. I really hope it gets better, because so far it seems like your typical ecchi high school setup.

I'll probably work on more anime/manga when I'm done playing Rewrite, but that's currently taking up most of my free time.
FMA is only 108 chapters long, but that number is deceptively small. Most chapters are 30-40 pages long, with the exception of the first one or two chapters (60-ish, I believe) and the final chapter (around 100 pages, I think). Considering the typical weekly shounen manga clocks in at around 17-20 pages per chapter, you can effectively double the number of chapters in FMA (maybe even a little more than double it; there are lots of longer chapters) and that would give you a more accurate representation of the length of the series.

Also, definitely stick with Negima! beyond the first few volumes. It isn't until Fate's introduction and the tournament and everything that the tone of the series begins to shift, but once it does, it drops the ecchi/harem elements for the most parts and becomes a somewhat plot intensive battle manga with some of the most intense, over the top fights you will ever get in a manga. There's some really impressive stuff. Think Eva 02's berserk form from EoE, except not as gory, and that's every fight in the whole fucking final arc (which makes up roughly half the series, iirc).
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: mechgamer123 on March 09, 2014, 09:01:50 AM
FMA is only 108 chapters long, but that number is deceptively small. Most chapters are 30-40 pages long, with the exception of the first one or two chapters (60-ish, I believe) and the final chapter (around 100 pages, I think). Considering the typical weekly shounen manga clocks in at around 17-20 pages per chapter, you can effectively double the number of chapters in FMA (maybe even a little more than double it; there are lots of longer chapters) and that would give you a more accurate representation of the length of the series.

Also, definitely stick with Negima! beyond the first few volumes. It isn't until Fate's introduction and the tournament and everything that the tone of the series begins to shift, but once it does, it drops the ecchi/harem elements for the most parts and becomes a somewhat plot intensive battle manga with some of the most intense, over the top fights you will ever get in a manga. There's some really impressive stuff. Think Eva 02's berserk form from EoE, except not as gory, and that's every fight in the whole fvcking final arc (which makes up roughly half the series, iirc).
Ah right, that's a good point. So really I'm looking at more like ~250 weekly chapters there, eh?

Gotcha. I'll stick with it for a few volumes and see how I like it after it starts getting awesome.  8)

Probably won't finish it too quickly since I'm going to be working on playing Rewrite in my spare time for a little while (hopefully).
Really digging the soundtrack; here's the ending song for the two routes I've actually finished so far:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnCnshBUML4

And in other news, if anyone hasn't seen this AMV, the amount of editing this guy did is absolutely epic:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnQBF2CIygg
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: Deep Funk on March 09, 2014, 09:45:40 AM
Hmm, maybe I spent too much time around elitist cynics with regards to anime. But then again, I am kind of a cynic. Not sure if I want to spend time with SAO, seeing a more level-headed response from non-(less?)cynics, instead of the black and white "THIS IS THE BEST ANIME EVAR" vs "THIS IS THE WORST ANIME EVRE".
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Sometimes a series is so bad there is no redemption. The later Dragonball series came close. The life adaptation of the Dragonball series closed the curtain. TFS for the win even if the swearing distracts a bit.

Apparently the Ghost In The Shell series' rights are sold or licensed for a life adaptation and it could be horrible if the series gets the Hollywood treatment, fingers crossed.

I understand the cynics. I just do not see the point of becoming stuck in my own set of standards and expectations and becoming too bitter to discover something that is new and/or interesting.     
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: Maxvla on March 11, 2014, 07:45:35 AM
Started Space Battleship Yamato 2199 a couple nights ago. Feels pretty similar to Macross so far (6 episodes in). Not expecting much, but so far I'm mildly entertained. Been itching for a space show either anime or live action so this is it at the moment.

ps. wtf is with the Japanese and turning derelict hulks into ass kicking space ships? This time they even built the damn thing like a water-going vessel despite it's main purpose being space flight...
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: Deep Funk on March 11, 2014, 11:25:46 AM
Maxvla, mecha-über-power-oozing-warriors à la Gundam and Macross are inescapable.

The Japanese culture owes much to its old warrior societies.
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: jGray91 on March 11, 2014, 12:23:49 PM
And is that the remade Yamato or the classic one? It seems that new one can hold its ground against its old self, from what I read from fans of the classic.

And speaking of remakes, there's rumors (or has it been official?) that Legend of the Galactic Heroes are getting a remake.
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: Maxvla on March 11, 2014, 04:16:59 PM
The new one. The graphics are enough to keep me watching. Quite impressive.
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: Kirosia on March 12, 2014, 08:22:13 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/cwN7P2b.gif)

I'd give it a go
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: jGray91 on March 13, 2014, 02:47:45 AM
+1 will watch if adapted.

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Finished Majin Tantei Nougami Neuro. A decidedly very shonen manga, but not in the usual way that that genre implies. For one, the relationship between the two main characters, a mystery-eating demon from hell and a teenage school girl, is sadistic. The mysteries in it are logical in its own context, and when at first it seems like it was going to be an episodic "solve one mystery for the demon to eat", it soon ramped up, in 4 arcs of ever increasing awesomenessess. Side characters abound, and while some of the criminals are expected one-note throwaways when they are uncovered, they always came back at least once and have some slight change (except that one Faux News-esque guy). Of note though, the important side characters are given almost the same treatment of character development as the two main characters. A diverse eldritch rainbow of interesting characters guaranteed with slapstick sadistic humour.

Plot, overall, is basic and straight-forward. But for each arc, it's the journey that hooked me in. Trying to not spoil too much, but with arcs that centred around a literally shape-shifting international thief and ruthless murderer that disintegrate its victims into mush and put in a glass box, or uncovering the mastermind behind an electronic drug that can put subliminal messages to commit crime as natural as breathing, or even an arc involving post-human beings, I don't see how one such as me, that is attracted to over-the-top ridiculousness, can not read this manga. And personally, the second one that I described is my favourite arc: one because it's as sci-fi as it can possibly get for a manga based on present world, and because it shows the most of how this manga didn't adhere to standard shonen trope: main character is defeated and promptly powers up to defeat the bad guy. In fact, it's the opposite, and is explained why so in a non BS way.

The art style might be the biggest barrier for most. Personally, after having gone through Jojo's Bizarre Adventure manga original art,  (http://www.deculture.es/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/jojos-bizarre-adventure-phantom-blood.jpg)this is of no concerned. Noodle people, but not to CLAMP's level thankfully, messy style, but I feel that it suits the "demon comes to earth to eat "mysteries"" theme, and the frequent body horror and eldritch beings that ensues.

No legal adaptation that i know of, but it's easy enough to get a batch torrent for it in one of the free premium (oxymoron, I know) torrent sites. There's also an anime adaptation with cleaner art, but it stopped somewhere before the first major arc from what I read, and it has its own ending, but not in such a BS way that most anime of this kind have. At least from what I read.

tl;dr: sadistic relationship between characters, who are developed further in a pleasing way (IMO), dark horrific and gradiose arc involving absurd ridiculous villains in a good way with appropriate art style to augment that.
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: Maxvla on March 17, 2014, 08:08:33 AM
Finished Yamato 2199. I enjoyed the show overall. A few minor complaints, mostly pacing, and predictability of certain outcomes, as well as the ship's surviving a couple of impossible situations. You do have to do some belief suspension to make it work, but I don't mind that. I'd give it a 7/10.
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: CCS on March 19, 2014, 12:22:11 AM
Well, looks like my manga list is getting ready to become shorter by one series, again, as TWGOK comes to a close. It will be sad to see this one end, but it may be best for it to end soon rather than for it to eventually drag on like some other current shounen works. I just hope the author brings closure to every major plot thread before capping it off with a final chapter. I'm sure this will not be a problem for such a competent mangaka, but I guess I'll have to wait and see.
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: jGray91 on March 19, 2014, 08:06:57 AM
Well, looks like my manga list is getting ready to become shorter by one series, again, as TWGOK comes to a close. It will be sad to see this one end, but it may be best for it to end soon rather than for it to eventually drag on like some other current shounen works. I just hope the author brings closure to every major plot thread before capping it off with a final chapter. I'm sure this will not be a problem for such a competent mangaka, but I guess I'll have to wait and see.

With it ending, maybe it's finally time that I marathon it for good. I've put it off and stopped at chapter 5 or something on recommendation from this thread since I've found two of my once-read-on-local-knockoff-Jump-magazine mangas that I didn't finished reading (one was the aforementioned Majin Tantei Nougami Neuro, and the other is smth smth Muhyo and Ro(u)ji).

I didn't know that the former even got an anime adaptation, and the latter has its scanlated scene dead back in 2007 or something since the groups doing it stopped because there was licensed localised versions. A couple years or so ago, the scene picked up again (or at least someone that had downloaded up to the point it stopped the first time uploaded it into the Internet again).
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: mechgamer123 on March 24, 2014, 08:25:38 AM
Well, I started watching Jojo's Bizarre Adventure with a friend, and Girls Und Panzer with another friend. What's not to like about manga adaptations done (supposedly) shockingly right and girls shooting each other in tanks? :D
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: jGray91 on March 24, 2014, 01:01:32 PM
Can say that David production went above and beyond just "shockingly right" manga adaptations. It's not only just copying the manga and making it into moving form, but the use of the soundtrack, the choice of the opening and ending songs and the visual effects used that made it better, in fact, to get into Jojo, instead of the unanimously agreed awful artwork manga (for the first part at least). That said, that still won't mean that Stardust Crusader will be done right, but higher chance that it will.
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: jGray91 on March 30, 2014, 04:24:44 PM
Want something Pandora-like with your anime songs? Then head over here http://www.edenofthewest.com/

Not associated with them in anyway, just sharing a classy internet radio station. Never caught it when there's a human DJ though. Not yet.
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: Deep Funk on April 06, 2014, 01:10:16 PM
I recently watched the final episode of Kill La Kill, episode 24.

For a 24 episode series it entertained me more after one watch then many 100-plus-episode anime series I have watched in the past. Fuck the plot holes here and there. The script was good and everything worked.

Trigger kicked serious ass with this anime...
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: jGray91 on April 06, 2014, 04:40:17 PM
KILL LA KILL is just a stop gap for me for the True ShowTM of over the top fights (plot): JoJo's Bizarre Adventures (JJBA): Stardust Crusaders. I still can't believe that someone (david Productions) decided to pick up and adapt one of the best long running manga franchise late 2012. The budget was expectedly low something as bizarre and old as JJBA, especially the first and second part: off the top of my head, it started in the 90s, with wonky art style and all. david did a spectacular job at taking that art style, animate it and improve it to mostly very accepting levels in the eyes of its fans.

Now that david Pro are coming back with a bigger budget (the first one is a huge hit, btw), man oh man, did it show! Superhype for this. Kill la Kill #savinganime ? JJBA did it first. :P

/fanboying

umm, TRIGGER something something Kill La Kill was fun something Mako best character something something can't wait for my BD of Little Witch Academia 2 to arrive from them.
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: Deep Funk on April 06, 2014, 05:49:19 PM
Kill La Kill certainly does not save anime.

For a 24 episode series it entertains more than Dragonball, Bleach and Naruto combined. Emphasis on "entertains". 

Kill La Kill is not as amusing as Apocalypse Zero for me. It does not come close to the epic Berserk or utterly cool Cowboy Bebop. It simply entertains while being forgettable fun...
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: jGray91 on April 07, 2014, 01:13:34 PM
Much better than the deluge of incest anime though.
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: CCS on April 19, 2014, 12:35:51 AM
Well, it's over. TWGOK 268 ended the series this week. Personally, I think the ending was about as close as it could be to a perfect one. Wakaki Tamiki wrote a more reserved ending than I expected, and a more realistic one as well, and I feel like that made the ending a lot more satisfying than it may have been otherwise. Looking forward to Wakaki's next work.
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: mechgamer123 on April 21, 2014, 07:36:28 PM
Yep, I definitely agree with CCS about TWGOK's ending. I was expecting a crazier ending as well, but this more realistic ending was quite nice.

In currently airing news, the new Jojo is awesome as expected. I can't be bothered to watch much else this season though.

And in other news, Sakura-con, the biggest anime convention in the northwest, was this weekend here in Seattle. Here are some photos I took of the cosplay, concert, and some of the random stuff I thought was funny/interesting.
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/u8cj0zp18j1lwf6/yyr5GsZxpI
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: Deep Funk on April 21, 2014, 10:09:15 PM
I recently picked Rurouni Kenshin at random as the next series to watch. For a romantic series it is very nuanced and more serious in unexpected moments than I thought.

The writer really put some thought behind his story.
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: Maxvla on April 23, 2014, 06:07:25 AM
Haven't been watching any anime recently due to trying to catch up on my non-anime watch lists, among those, a rewatch of star trek TOS in order, something I've never done for TOS but have for every other ST series. I'm midway through season 2.

When I return to anime, I'll continue with Fate Zero (2011) where I watched the first episode and was iffy on it, but it's grown on me since almost discarding it.
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: CCS on April 27, 2014, 12:32:46 AM
I recently picked Rurouni Kenshin at random as the next series to watch. For a romantic series it is very nuanced and more serious in unexpected moments than I thought.

The writer really put some thought behind his story.

You should consider reading the manga as well. The anime and the manga have significantly different endings because the anime team didn't want to run filler when they caught up with the manga and decided to become their own series rather than waiting on the manga to pull ahead of them. I think you would probably like the manga as well, though possibly not as much as the anime. It's hard to say. It's been some time since I've read or watched Kenshin, so I'd have to go back to both before I could determine which I prefer.
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: Deep Funk on April 27, 2014, 05:19:02 AM
Is there a place where I can find these manga episodes in pdf? The actual booklets often cost too much over time.
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: The Alchemist on April 27, 2014, 09:23:12 AM
I recently picked Rurouni Kenshin at random as the next series to watch. For a romantic series it is very nuanced and more serious in unexpected moments than I thought.

The writer really put some thought behind his story.

I have Samurai X (Rurouni Kenshin) - Trust and Betrayal Director's cut, it is really good. Caution though, it is pretty bloody and violent, but has a romantic and ironic side to it as well. Extremely good art and animation for the time.

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/514X3DRN7FL.jpg)
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: Deep Funk on April 27, 2014, 08:04:17 PM
I think Berserk is one of the best anime ever. Samurai warriors who shed no blood must be very skilled at Aikido  ;) 
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: 6 on July 08, 2014, 02:08:53 PM
Anyone else watching 攻殻機動隊 Ghost In The Shell: Arise?

I find the plots pretty convoluted. Even more so than the Laughing Man storyline in the 2nd Gig. Still enjoyable if you know the characters.

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Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: Maxvla on July 08, 2014, 04:45:27 PM
It's on my list. Speaking of lists, I knocked out another one yesterday, Fate Zero. It was interesting with a slow start and fast finish that got a little weird. Really great character building, IMO. The main storyline, though, was weak and buried for most of the series. I'll give it a 7/10. Lots of good points but a few clunkers that made the show forgettable.
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: thegunner100 on July 08, 2014, 05:04:08 PM
I think the original Fate Zero light novel is probably better than the anime. I've read the Fate/Stay Night visual novel, but I haven't watched the anime and I don't plan to either. In most cases, the source material (in this case, the VN) ends up being better than the anime adaptations. I plan on reading the Fate Zero light novels after I finish with the Haruhi light novels though.

As for animes... I am re-watching the Aria series. Every episode brings a smile across my face with the cheerful characters and the relaxing music.
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: firev1 on July 09, 2014, 02:09:51 PM
Heads up, there will be new FSN movie if you guys do not know yet adapted by Ufotable so this will be better than the old anime adaptabtion.

For last season's watches I highly recommend One Week Friends if you are into slice of life drama. Its very feel good.

Personally my opinions matches gunners but I thought the adaptation was pretty well done already.
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: Byrnie on July 14, 2014, 10:20:27 PM
I've been hooked on Hunter X Hunter (2011 reboot).  I am also watching Sword Art Online and Attack On Titan.
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: 6 on July 15, 2014, 10:27:15 AM
Appleseed Alpha
(http://i59.tinypic.com/iwk6jo.jpg)

Out on download today. Another prequel, set before the first two films (not including the 1988 version).
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: 6 on July 16, 2014, 02:57:55 PM
It looks like they hired Daft Punk for the bad guys...

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Screen grab
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: Maxvla on July 26, 2014, 04:14:00 AM
Just wrapped up Arcana Famiglia. Enjoyable, but not very well written. Shallow story and archetypal characters. Felt phoned in. Glad it was only 13 episodes long. 5/10
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: firev1 on July 28, 2014, 09:43:15 AM
Update on Fate Project, Fate/Stay Night Unlimited Blade Works(again) will be the route for TV anime, also Heaven's Feel route(also FSN) will be finally getting a movie. Given that it is ufotable producing it, it will be one of the things to look out for once fall comes. Blatant shill but I written about it here :3

http://www.ani-culture.net/2014/07/fatestay-night-unlimited-blade-works-fall-heavens-feel-movie-announced/

This season I really liked Ao Haru Ride and Gekkan Shoujo Nozaki Kun. Tokyo Ghoul is a pretty decent watch too so far.

Arcana Famiglia was pretty disappointing for me I guess.

On the Light Novels front I'm in the middle or reading translations for A Certain Magical Index which I have been reading for a while but stopped in the middle of volume 14 for years before picking it back up.

Cast is huge and the setting is pretty deep. Got me into reading occult stuff to appreciate the material more. Highly recommended, the anime is pretty decent too so check it out. It has a feel seasons and a good spin off series too(actually the timelines are interlinked, its still novel material) titled A Certain Scientific Railgun.
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: Maxvla on July 29, 2014, 03:47:52 PM
Quickly ran through Noragami. Enjoyable and complex characters. The plot itself is fairly weak, though. Another where I was glad it was only 12 episodes, but I liked it more than Arcana Famiglia. 7/10
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: thegunner100 on July 30, 2014, 12:46:04 AM
FSN Heaven's Feel... I wonder how they'll explain all the essential H scenes that were in the VN? HF was also quite a bit more graphic than the other two as well.
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: DJ DJ on July 30, 2014, 12:46:47 AM
Noragami is really one of those shows that would've benefited from 2 cour. Everything after Yukine's redemption bit is an anime original plot, so it turned out about as well as it could've given that there were only 4 episodes to do it. 
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: hiyu64 on July 30, 2014, 02:12:47 AM
Currently watching Aldnoah Zero, first couple episodes are pretty good so far.  I'm just waiting for the urobutcher to go full force.

I still need to go finish watching Suisei no Garugantia
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: insidious meme on July 30, 2014, 01:22:48 PM
Currently watching Aldnoah Zero, first couple episodes are pretty good so far.  I'm just waiting for the urobutcher to go full force.

I still need to go finish watching Suisei no Garugantia

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Looking forward to the rest of the Fate/Stay showings. I did enjoy the Fate Zero series.
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: hiyu64 on July 31, 2014, 02:46:49 AM
Currently watching Aldnoah Zero, first couple episodes are pretty good so far.  I'm just waiting for the urobutcher to go full force.

I still need to go finish watching Suisei no Garugantia

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Looking forward to the rest of the Fate/Stay showings. I did enjoy the Fate Zero series.

I should have made it more specific.  I am waiting for maximum character development/interaction. 
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Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: Deep Funk on July 31, 2014, 03:25:02 AM
If you are in need of a laugh because of random humour, I recently watched "The Ultimate Teacher" from 1988. A cockroach, a spider and underwear...
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: firev1 on July 31, 2014, 03:58:28 PM
Watched 2 episodes of Unicorn Gundam, really liking the plot so far, although I think the way he was given the RX-0 was way too ridiculous. Noragami was a nice watch like the concept of it despite the plot. Aldnoah Zero is pretty nice but nothing special so far...

I'm also enjoying Gekkan Shoujo Nozaki kun, pretty darn humorous, laughed my ass off.
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: Maxvla on August 02, 2014, 05:57:18 AM
Just finished season one of Knights of Sidonia. Looking forward to season 2 later this year. It's a well done return to old style Japanese anime. The start is pretty darn fast, and you only catch up right at the end, so be ready to absorb like crazy. There's lots of cliches, but I didn't mind. The story is compelling and I ended up caring about most of the characters in a way that is usually impossible for a 12 episode run. It's sort of a mashup of Gundam (space combat robots), Macross (seed ships), and NGE (monster a week).

There is certainly room for improvement, but I'll give it a generous 8/10 so far.
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: jGray91 on August 02, 2014, 08:56:01 AM
Currently watching Aldnoah Zero, first couple episodes are pretty good so far.  I'm just waiting for the urobutcher to go full force.

I still need to go finish watching Suisei no Garugantia

Do you like Gargantia? IMO that's one of urobutcher's worst, or at least mismanaged. I don't really know what I was hoping out of it, back then, TBH, but whatever I got I am disappointed with it. This was coming from the highs I got from Madoka, Saya no Uta, then Psycho-Pass, an anime where a soldier is flung into a far off peaceful land is an intriguing premise, so I had high hopes. I should watch the final episode just so I can say I finished it and bury it.

On the other hand, fresh from the massive disappointment of that, I have low expectations of Aldnoah, but Episode 2 really convinced me that urobutcher is fully into it this time.

Really need to finish Sidonia and see what happens to Izana (best girl).
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: Deep Funk on August 02, 2014, 01:20:06 PM
Watched 2 episodes of Unicorn Gundam, really liking the plot so far, although I think the way he was given the RX-0 was way too ridiculous. Noragami was a nice watch like the concept of it despite the plot. Aldnoah Zero is pretty nice but nothing special so far...

I'm also enjoying Gekkan Shoujo Nozaki kun, pretty darn humorous, laughed my ass off.

Can you recommend Gundam Unicorn? The mecha samurai warriors in space still hold a special place in my heart.
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: jGray91 on August 02, 2014, 04:14:52 PM
Not firev, but I recommend Unicorn. But then again, I love UC Gundam more for the "serious war" theme than say, Gundam 00 or SEED. Currently waiting for someone to translate Ep 7, or maybe someone already did...

And FWIW, Unicorn has some very awesomazing battle OST.
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: firev1 on August 02, 2014, 05:05:52 PM
*_* finished all 7 episodes last night, yeah someone already did, good ending although I wish there were more funnels :#

Its indeed refreshing to see the protagonist take killing and war more seriously then the other protagonist in 00 and SEED indeed which makes it more "realistic?"(heck its anime). I'm just sad about the best girl though.

Think of Unicorn as a mix of 00 and SEED but much more well executed.

On another note, the OST is available in HD on e-onkyo and ototoy.

Sidonia is indeed nice, the lyrics for its opening sequence means a lot to me as well. For episode 5 of Psycho Pass New Edit, sad they ain't gonna screen on tele the student killings episode since that was one of the best murder plots in the show in light of what happened to the japanese students(a student killed her friend with a blunt object and decapitated her).
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: Deep Funk on August 02, 2014, 06:03:14 PM
I learned of Gundam via the Gundam Wing series. Of all the series I have seen I still like Gundam Wing the most. The Endless Waltz special was a rewarding special. The open ending was well told.

If Unicorn is indeed more serious about the war aspect then I think I will like it. Thing is, after Sha or Char and Zechs Marquise the villains became a bit bland. In Gundam 00 the villains did not have the back story of the Zabi and the Peacecraft family.

I recently re-watched the first two M.D. Geist films again. I like the art style, uncensored gore and violence. There is somewhat exaggerated honesty to those "violent" animes. 
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: jGray91 on August 02, 2014, 07:29:33 PM
There's a Psycho Pass New Edit? There's a similar real life case on that Episode 5 case??

Hmm, time to make time for tomorrow and finish Unicorn.
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: insidious meme on August 02, 2014, 07:47:20 PM
Barely started the original Psycho Pass run. Will I have to mix and match when I do the New Edit on ep 5?
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: Byrnie on August 10, 2014, 01:53:04 AM
If you are in need of a laugh because of random humour, I recently watched "The Ultimate Teacher" from 1988. A cockroach, a spider and underwear...
I've never heard of Ultimate Teacher, are you perhaps referring to GTO (Great Teacher Onizuka)?  If not, is it as good as GTO?
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: Deep Funk on August 10, 2014, 06:13:26 AM
If you are in need of a laugh because of random humour, I recently watched "The Ultimate Teacher" from 1988. A cockroach, a spider and underwear...
I've never heard of Ultimate Teacher, are you perhaps referring to GTO (Great Teacher Onizuka)?  If not, is it as good as GTO?

The English Dub with subtitles on Youtube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mF5NHl0ydT0
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: Maxvla on August 18, 2014, 04:24:02 PM
Just finished up Jormungand. It's a complex one, for sure. I enjoyed it a lot. The only flaw I could notice was the 'backstory of X member of the unit encapsulated in one episode' thing that kept happening. It would have been nicer from a story telling POV if it were better integrated, but I suppose it will have to do.

9.5/10
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: Maxvla on September 02, 2014, 04:46:34 AM
Just finished catching up all 144 episodes of Hunter x Hunter 2011 over the last few days. Felt like the early stuff was too fast in the reboot, but once it hit original content it dragged out, especially late in the chimera ant arc. There were many times I'd click forward 20-30 seconds to skip re-hash or annoying wails by the royal guard members.

The current arc feels odd, almost forced, but I'll go with it.
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: Sforza on September 02, 2014, 06:08:48 AM
Just finished catching up all 144 episodes of Hunter x Hunter 2011 over the last few days. Felt like the early stuff was too fast in the reboot, but once it hit original content it dragged out, especially late in the chimera ant arc. There were many times I'd click forward 20-30 seconds to skip re-hash or annoying wails by the royal guard members.

The current arc feels odd, almost forced, but I'll go with it.

Have you heard that it's down to the last 8 or so episodes? It ends after the Chairman election arc, which is after the Chimera ant arc. Reason for that is the mangaka decided to go on hiatus again, though the current manga arc is generally agreed upon as pretty good. Get ready for the conclusion of the Chimera ant arc to be boring and draggy as hell. The studio basically had no choice but to stretch it out to keep pace with the manga, which is sad. As a whole the series is still great.
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: Maxvla on September 02, 2014, 02:54:58 PM
Yeah I finished the ant arc. I'm in the middle of the election arc. Currently at the point where they took the vote to pare it down to the last 2 contenders. I think the series is great. It has an epic feeling that reminds me of another anime that I wish could continue, D. Grayman.
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: Maxvla on September 10, 2014, 08:56:18 PM
What a cliffhanger in the latest Hunter episode.
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: Kamaka on October 09, 2014, 01:58:38 AM
The ant arc was tedious. But the Netero episode, you know which one, was amazing. Election arc was pretty good, and ended with a solid cliffhanger. Looking forward to the next. I'd love to see the return of some more characters from the past.
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: thegunner100 on October 09, 2014, 03:11:16 AM
So for the first time, I think I'll actually watch a currently airing anime: Grisaia no Kajitsu. The VN is one of my favorite VNs and while I know that while VN -> Anime adaptations usually suck, I'd like to see the anime be somewhat faithful to the VN. What people don't realize is that Grisaia is a trilogy and that Kajitsu is just the first part.

Anyone else going to watch Grisaia?
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: Maxvla on October 09, 2014, 03:11:40 AM
Season 2 of Sword Art Online has been very interesting. I'd let it backlog to 14 episodes before watching them all over the last couple days. A very different take on virtual death to real death than the first time around, but no less intriguing. I like the balance of real and virtual in season 2.
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: firev1 on October 09, 2014, 11:45:10 AM
Re: Grisaia, I think this VN adaptation would be no different, sucky, I will stick to the VN.

Sword Art Oniline 2: From here on I would think it as the sucky part of the season for the 2nd cour of the anime, the first part was nice and rather refreshing though Kirito is such a dick in so many ways.

This season: Last season sucked so compared to this, Fall is gonna be so awesome. Like 2-3 seasons ago, this one has a lot of "travelling" type fantasy titles which is my favourite genre by far. Also the pilot for Fate/Stay Night is by Ufotable is so awesome in the technical aspect, they really might be the only studio to bring a game to reality in animation.
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: thegunner100 on October 09, 2014, 01:10:18 PM
I'll watch the first episode this weekend and see how it goes. There's definitely going to be lots of content cut out due to the time restraints and lots of censorship on the H and jokes.
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: thegunner100 on October 13, 2014, 04:02:40 PM
My thoughts and review on the first episode of Grisaia no Kajitsu (shameless plug, but I don't make any money off of my blog)

http://emotionalskyscraper.weebly.com/blog/grisaia-no-kajitsu-ep1-ordinary-academy-life
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: firev1 on October 14, 2014, 01:23:07 PM
Re: Grisaia, I might have to keep watching, really nice artwork and camera angling involved despite the mundane scenes is really interesting+ it looks like they are putting in effort.

This season keeps getting better for me, so much better than the last. Some who dislike fantasy type settings may feel alienated though.
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: thegunner100 on October 14, 2014, 02:24:04 PM
Yep, it seems like they're putting in effort to do the most of what they can with the given time restraint of the anime medium.

The second episode was aired just two days ago so I'll probably get around to watching it sometime this weekend. I'll have lots of new audio toys to play around with this week, and three midterms next week though...  :'(
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: firev1 on November 03, 2014, 06:10:08 AM
Perhaps too much jargon in this review but here's my stream of consciousness I did a couple weeks back. This season has been extremely entertaining and perhaps taking up more time than I would like.

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Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: thegunner100 on November 03, 2014, 01:58:09 PM
Yet people still complain about what Grisaia has managed to produce so far. I think it's doing a fine job with its limited time and resources. I haven't watched the 4th episode yet but I've been writing my thoughts on each episode so far in my blog.
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: firev1 on November 03, 2014, 02:26:33 PM
Yet people still complain about what Grisaia has managed to produce so far. I think it's doing a fine job with its limited time and resources. I haven't watched the 4th episode yet but I've been writing my thoughts on each episode so far in my blog.
I agree, I dropped most of VN related anime for some time(White Album etc) but Grisaia is pretty amazing in art and the direction its going. I can't help but keep watching.
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: Maxvla on November 04, 2014, 03:34:18 AM
I agree. Legend of Korra has been excellent. Quality baddies every book. Going to be hard to top book 2 with the aspects of light and dark facing off, but book 3's villain was truly fear inducing.

Really missing Hunter x Hunter. Watched Sword of the Stranger last night. Very high quality animation, some of the best I've seen. Good, but predictable story.

Got the whole run of Ghost in the Shell and sequel/specials lined up to watch when I get to it. I've seen some of it before and remember it being fantastic. I don't think I've seen beyond the first season, however.

This season of Sword Art Online started out strong with Kirito challenging more online killers, but afterwards they seem to be chewing through whole arcs in 2-3 episodes and they don't seem all that connected. Odd. Still, I'll watch for sure.
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: Byrnie on November 04, 2014, 05:00:57 AM
I agree. Legend of Korra has been excellent. Quality baddies every book. Going to be hard to top book 2 with the aspects of light and dark facing off, but book 3's villain was truly fear inducing.

Really missing Hunter x Hunter. Watched Sword of the Stranger last night. Very high quality animation, some of the best I've seen. Good, but predictable story.

Got the whole run of Ghost in the Shell and sequel/specials lined up to watch when I get to it. I've seen some of it before and remember it being fantastic. I don't think I've seen beyond the first season, however.

This season of Sword Art Online started out strong with Kirito challenging more online killers, but afterwards they seem to be chewing through whole arcs in 2-3 episodes and they don't seem all that connected. Odd. Still, I'll watch for sure.
Hunter X Hunter was amazing!  I didn't enjoy Legend of Korra Book 2 as much as the other Books.  I hear you about Sword Art and hope it takes a more interesting turn otherwise it will be supremely redundant.  I found the Ghost in the Shell TV series to be a tad boring in season 2.  Have you seen Attack on Titan also?
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: Maxvla on November 04, 2014, 05:07:04 AM
Yes. Attack on Titan first season was great. Waiting for season 2.

I liked book 2 more than the rest from an 'Avatar' point of view. Book 3 felt much less about Korra than it was about her opponents.
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: Byrnie on November 04, 2014, 02:23:12 PM
The whole spirits thing in Book 2 lost me at times. Yea cook I am looking forward to season 2 as well for Titan.
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: Maxvla on November 10, 2014, 07:02:10 AM
RE: Latest Korra

Damnit Korra, you're a bull in a china shop.
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: firev1 on November 10, 2014, 02:40:51 PM
Shes out of it for a while I guess. Sword art will be bad till maybe the Underworld arc(as in the light novel). I prefer Log Horizon, animation isn't as nice as SAO but the world is much more interesting or rather they expand much more.

Lately I can recommend Shirobako for those who want to learn what goes on behind the scenes in anime production, friends from the industry( I have a 2 friends who actually work in the industry) says that its pretty accurate and going by what other seiyuu are saying online,  its true.
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: insidious meme on November 10, 2014, 03:00:25 PM
I'll disagree on SAO. It's entering the Mothers Rosario arc which if unless you are aware of what happens, will be very interesting IMO.

Shirobako has been a fun but crazy ride through the anime process.

Moffle isn't a ripoff on Amagi. I think it's the same writer of the Full Metal Panic series so you see Moffle in both.

Log Horizon has always been fun to me.

Korra getting back to Avatar shape.. not looking good right now.
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: firev1 on November 10, 2014, 04:09:57 PM
Yeah, I knew about Amagi, I wanted to pick up the book but I can barely keep up these days. Too many sides to this hobby to look at. I disliked MR or the series before Underworld largely due to the concept, it felt like a large filler period to me.
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: No_One411 on November 10, 2014, 05:07:37 PM
Has anyone been watching the Ufotable revamp of the Fate/stay Night: Unlimited Bladeworks series?

Story is kinda confusing with all the different versions, but I think this current version has been amazing so far.

3rd episode in and we already get amazing scenes with Saber and Berserker.

Last week's episode of Korra was painful to watch.
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: insidious meme on November 14, 2014, 04:03:35 AM
Well, the latest Amagi Brilliant Park is at least Changstar friendly:

(http://blog-imgs-64.fc2.com/y/a/r/yaraon/1415899109151.jpg)
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: Maxvla on February 22, 2015, 08:50:46 AM
Just finished watching Magi - The Labyrinth of Magic and Magi - The Kingdom of Magic. Sort of a mix between typical shounen limitless power and limited weapon based power depending on what person you are. The characters are a little stereotypical, but very deep and make surprising decisions. Also, things don't always go the hero's way. Very enjoyable. I couldn't stop clicking the next episode open for the last 10 or so. Mixed in a little sci-fi at the end. Looks to be more coming but it will take a while for the manga to have enough content for another 25 episode season. Many unanswered questions remain.

9/10

edit:

Apparently there is a short OVA about Sinbad's past. Gotta watch that soon.
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: firev1 on April 06, 2015, 05:12:11 AM
Just thought I post a couple of quick thoughts of last seasons titles.

Last season we had a couple of really nice titles that ended that I really really enjoyed, namely Shirobako which I feel ridiculously involved in. One of the titles that I feel really brought me into the setting, strong recommendation. Its not a particularly strong season though, not many fantastic titles(most were continuations/leftovers from 2 seasons)

Shigatsu wa Kimi no Uso is one of those cryfest anime that I like to see, music was pretty nice and watching it made me feel like wasting the rest of the day away in sadness. Really nice to see the growth in the characters and how their interconnected relationship force them all to change.

Aldnoah Zero was pretty mindfuck with all the politicking all the way to the end. Flat/Anticlimatic but worth the watch.

Providing more "shounen" or for kids/the young at heart was The Seven Deadly Sins and Gundam Build Fighters Try. Both are nice titles to watch though more for the action than actual plot. Personally regarding GBFT its a nice step away from the direction of general Gundam anime and I really love it for being nonsensical.

This season looks okay so far, will provide more thoughts later. The start seems pretty damn enjoyable though.
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: Deep Funk on April 06, 2015, 10:48:47 AM
Recently I started watching anime again, for a bit...

Full Metal Alchemist is quite good and original. I like the universe.

Akatsuki no Yona is good. General Hak is one of the best no-nonsense protagonists I have seen in a long time.
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: antifocus on April 06, 2015, 03:37:15 PM
I feel that the only two things good about A/Z are the music and the graphic. I never enjoyed any anime by Urobuchi.
Full Metal Alchemist is very good, especially the new one. Rome Park's performance is just unbelievable.
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: Buttercream on April 07, 2015, 03:55:35 AM
Full Metal Alchemist: Brotherhood is excellent, I liked it much better than the first anime. The mythos of "all is one, one is all" is well thought out and consistently presented through out, character is well developed, and the soundtrack is excellent. Quite effective in conjuring teary eye if I do say so myself.
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: firev1 on April 07, 2015, 01:26:02 PM
Oh yes, love FMA. Both are good but the latest remake is a refined masterpiece.

Re: Urobuchi, I do like his storyboarding generally but A/Z is really messy.
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: PelPix on April 07, 2015, 06:29:37 PM
For anyone that cares, S3 of Haruhi started airing in Japan this week, after a 5 year delay and a change in studio. It's a romance between Yuki and Kyon and takes place in the Disappearance universe.

I've very high standards for anime. Nodame Cantabile is a good start. Not only is it a great romance, but it has a superb selection of original and non-original classical music recordings. They pulled in players from around the world to assemble the orchestra that plays the music in the show, and took the best recordings and performances for the non-original performances.
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: thegunner100 on April 07, 2015, 07:37:05 PM
For anyone that cares, S3 of Haruhi started airing in Japan this week, after a 5 year delay and a change in studio. It's a romance between Yuki and Kyon and takes place in the Disappearance universe.

I've very high standards for anime. Nodame Cantabile is a good start. Not only is it a great romance, but it has a superb selection of original and non-original classical music recordings. They pulled in players from around the world to assemble the orchestra that plays the music in the show, and took the best recordings and performances for the non-original performances.

Thanks for the heads up! Was the music in S1 and S2 good? Its been so long, I don't remember.
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: PelPix on April 07, 2015, 11:51:14 PM
It was good, but S3 is a different studio. Did you see the movie?
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: thegunner100 on April 08, 2015, 12:39:22 AM
Yes I did. Also a really long time ago. Did the same studio do the movie? Cause I thought the animations were done really well but I can't remember much about the music.
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: antifocus on April 08, 2015, 12:54:19 AM
Re the FMA, one of the most impressive scene I've ever seen in anime. Watched the English version clip afterwards, simply cannot compare.
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Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: firev1 on April 08, 2015, 04:23:33 PM
First few productions for Haruhi is done by KyoAni, the recent one about Yuki Nagato is done by Satelight. Vastly different styles since the later is a derivative work rather than an original work.

Music wise its not exactly outstanding but some some songs are really nice. Theres a pretty well done recording with the voice actresses singing with the Tokyo Philharmonic Orchestra. A couple of nice ones would be God Knows and "Yuki, Muon, Madobe ni te". Heard the later live recently and it was amazeballs, Minori Chihara has an insanely nice voice.
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: Deep Funk on May 14, 2015, 05:22:01 PM
The new DBZ Abridged, number 47 was awesome. Seriously Team Four Star for the win  :)p2
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: Maxvla on July 16, 2015, 06:55:15 AM
Just binge watched the first season of Tokyo Ghoul over last night and tonight. Pretty wild ride. Not a genre I'm usually into, but this has been interesting. Looking forward to season 2 (I have ready to watch), and the spin-off and season 3 coming this summer. The art is fantastic, music is on point, and while the characters are a bit cliche, they are very well done.
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: velvetx on September 18, 2015, 03:55:46 AM
Arslan Senki has been great this season.
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: Chris F on September 18, 2015, 04:18:10 PM
Nothing super exceptional this season but I did enjoy Gangsta quite a bit.
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: Aelms on September 18, 2015, 04:19:31 PM
Nothing super exceptional this season but I did enjoy Gangsta quite a bit.

Sure there was. Charlotte was exceptionally bad to the point of inadvertently becoming my favourite comedy show of the season.
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: velvetx on September 18, 2015, 04:23:13 PM
Gangsta at least the manga is great.  I have downloaded the anime but haven't watched it.

No love for Prison School or Shokugeki no Souma?
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: Chris F on September 18, 2015, 04:39:10 PM
I think I watched the first episode of Prison School and decided against it lol

Same thing with the cooking show but that one had more potential... I think.  Might go back and watch the next couple episodes if I find time.

I also watched GATE and Overlord, mainly cause I dig the genre.
Title: Re: Anime Discussion Thread
Post by: velvetx on September 19, 2015, 04:07:37 PM
I have so much anime to watch.  Yah if you want a really good show to watch Shokugeki No Souma is great yes it's a cooking show but at the same time things are very interesting and the character development is good.

Durara is still going on and I've been watching that.  Another great series I think is Kingdom but unfortunately I read the manga so I usually don't watch the anime.

Overlord and GATE are on my list of things to watch.