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Re: Bushmills x Grado Marketing Clusterfuck 'Phones
« Reply #10 on: December 26, 2013, 05:24:23 PM »

I'll never understand how you can describe the PS1000 as not bad. Other than the "what the fuck!!!???" GS1000, I'm not sure there's a more distorting headphone out there.

PS1000 and GS1000 (I used to own, but covered up front of drivers with cloth or TP, and typically only used with classical) are ruler flat from the high-bass to 3kHz. In the era before the ortho explosion, ruler flat flat mids (without little bumps) were something rare.

Both PS1000 and GS1000 were extremely resolving and fast sounding.


I won't defend the PS1000 with BS such as "the headphone designed for low-volume listening", but it does have its merits.
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Re: Bushmills x Grado Marketing Clusterfuck 'Phones
« Reply #11 on: December 26, 2013, 09:30:07 PM »

PS1000 and GS1000 (I used to own, but covered up front of drivers with cloth or TP, and typically only used with classical) are ruler flat from the high-bass to 3kHz. In the era before the ortho explosion, ruler flat flat mids (without little bumps) were something rare.

Both PS1000 and GS1000 were extremely resolving and fast sounding.

I won't defend the PS1000 with BS such as "the headphone designed for low-volume listening", but it does have its merits.

To each his own, I guess. I spent a fair amount of time with the GS1000 when it was first released, I was at a high-end audio dealer and they had a separate room for headphone listening that was completely silent. On everything I tried, it sounded like an absolute mess. I don't remember much of the HF response but it definitely wasn't good. What struck me most was the god awful muddy bass and mid-bass that sounded like... I don't even know what the right analogy is, but the closest is probably the video of the rhino spraying shit everywhere.

Resolving no, fast no. There wasn't a single aspect of the sound that I liked in the slightest. I kept trying different songs to see if there was something that the GS1000 could get right, but I never found anything. Even the Audio-Technica ES10 which is almost completely terrible sounds fun and enjoyable with a song that's just right for it. The GS1000 for me was just universally terrible. The PS1000 I've heard only very briefly. Tried them on, started a song, and thought "yup, still sucks," and that was that.
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Re: Bushmills x Grado Marketing Clusterfuck 'Phones
« Reply #12 on: December 26, 2013, 10:52:28 PM »

Kinda agree with Dave.  I thought the GS/PS1000 were both terrible headphones and didn't find them resolving.
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Re: Bushmills x Grado Marketing Clusterfuck 'Phones
« Reply #13 on: December 27, 2013, 12:49:06 AM »

Well, given what was available (you have to remember the best obtainable dynamics at that time were probably the HD650/600 and RS1), I still preferred them to the Ultrasone ED8.

I also never said they weren't terrible; merely explaining why I felt someone else, i.e., MF could have actually found the PS1000 "not bad". And as for my experience with classical music from these cans, all one needs is to pull up a frequency analysis of a chamber music piece with period instruments (my preferred sub-genre within classical) and understand why this worked with the GS/PS1000. 95% of classical isn't mastered properly - rolled off at the extremes - compared to real events.

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As for the bass: the drivers for the GS1000/PS1000 are being over driven. Bass levels were increased to account for the larger cushions and for also the sake of even more bass than the SR/RS headphones. Given how the SR/RS drivers already had large amount of bass distortion... There was reason why early GS1000 and PS1000 drivers had a tendency toward driver failure, if you guys remember that back in the day.

It would have been interesting to measure their bass distortion; but as of today, I'm not sure if this is really of any interest.
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Re: Bushmills x Grado Marketing Clusterfuck 'Phones
« Reply #14 on: December 27, 2013, 01:56:58 AM »

As an aside, is Bushmills whiskey even good?
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Re: Bushmills x Grado Marketing Clusterfuck 'Phones
« Reply #15 on: December 27, 2013, 02:02:33 AM »

As an aside, is Bushmills whiskey even good?

Good god no. Might as well save some money and go for Jameson. Or step on up to single malt scotch.

Resolving no, fast no. There wasn't a single aspect of the sound that I liked in the slightest. I kept trying different songs to see if there was something that the GS1000 could get right, but I never found anything. Even the Audio-Technica ES10 which is almost completely terrible sounds fun and enjoyable with a song that's just right for it. The GS1000 for me was just universally terrible. The PS1000 I've heard only very briefly. Tried them on, started a song, and thought "yup, still sucks," and that was that.

They have that Grado intimacy, the forward sound brings out little details.
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Re: Bushmills x Grado Marketing Clusterfuck 'Phones
« Reply #16 on: December 27, 2013, 02:05:36 AM »

Think of them as the Miller Genuine Draft of whiskies.

I've heard good things about their honey flavored drink:
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Re: Bushmills x Grado Marketing Clusterfuck 'Phones
« Reply #17 on: December 27, 2013, 02:08:00 AM »

I think that is the best question you can ask right now.

A sample review I found interesting was this one from scotchnoob:
http://scotchnoob.com/2012/12/24/bushmills-original-blended-irish-whiskey/
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Re: Bushmills x Grado Marketing Clusterfuck 'Phones
« Reply #18 on: December 27, 2013, 04:48:22 AM »

hello,

the GYTW is very fond of this:

http://www.powerswhiskey.com/
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Re: Bushmills x Grado Marketing Clusterfuck 'Phones
« Reply #19 on: December 27, 2013, 07:37:43 AM »

As an aside, is Bushmills whiskey even good?

Good god no. Might as well save some money and go for Jameson. Or step on up to single malt scotch.

Ah, so much like Grado sounds, it tastes good to people who don't know better?
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