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Audeze LCD-3 Sample 2
« on: February 16, 2012, 08:06:04 PM »

LCD3 Waterfall Plot Comparison
  • My LCD3 (first two graphs L and R channels)
  • Sample #2 (second set of two graphs, L and R channels)
My LCD3 pair was of the initial production batch. I don't know what going on with the ringing for LCD3 #2 at 3-4kHz, which I believe is a more current batch. The ringing is not in a fairly benign area. However it's a bit troubling.

This one I still consider "veiled"
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Re: Audeze LCD-3 Sample 2
« Reply #1 on: February 16, 2012, 08:08:07 PM »

At least the colors look pretty!  ???
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Re: Audeze LCD-3 Sample 2
« Reply #2 on: February 16, 2012, 08:15:26 PM »

What's more troubling is the bass response. These are uncompensated graphs that don't take into account the "seal." I would have to say the the latter production sample #2 sounded more correct the in bass - in other words, my pair sounded like they had too much energy in the bass.

(Black = LCD3 Sample #2, Green = my LCD3)

Note the odd resonances in the CSDs are hinted at in the FR graphs of LCD3 #2.
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Re: Audeze LCD-3 Sample 2
« Reply #3 on: February 18, 2012, 01:39:25 AM »

what's with the huge 20k spike? that must be killer on the ears with some stuff i would assume and be hearing an annoying type of ''sssssssssssss type ringing''. well hard to explain but i guess you know what i'm saying...i guess.
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Re: Audeze LCD-3 Sample 2
« Reply #4 on: February 18, 2012, 01:41:22 AM »

At least the colors look pretty!  ???

i like the colors too.
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Re: Audeze LCD-3 Sample 2
« Reply #5 on: February 18, 2012, 01:50:40 AM »

what's with the huge 20k spike? that must be killer on the ears with some stuff i would assume and be hearing an annoying type of ''sssssssssssss type ringing''. well hard to explain but i guess you know what i'm saying...i guess.

It's too high up for sibilance.  It's still kind of a mystery though because you'd think it might give them an airyness, but a lack of air is one of their biggest weaknesses.  I'm suspicious it's some kind of measurement artifact, but Tyll's graph shows it too so...
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Re: Audeze LCD-3 Sample 2
« Reply #6 on: February 18, 2012, 02:43:25 AM »

Three explanations:
  • People can't hear 20kHz. Anyone older than 11 years old who claims they can hear up there (at normal volumes) is full of shit. I most certainly can't.
  • The spike is a driver distortion artifact that doesn't bear any resemblance to the overtones of the actual music.
  • The spike is a measurement artifact and does not exist to the extent as measured.
But yeah, LCD2/3 have no air compared to most other headphones.
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Re: Audeze LCD-3 Sample 2
« Reply #7 on: February 18, 2012, 02:49:02 AM »

Wouldn't you think a 20k spike help with air?  What about the Take T BPP super tweeter?   ;D

btw, Jude's review on Head-fi TV is pretty funny...
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Re: Audeze LCD-3 Sample 2
« Reply #8 on: February 18, 2012, 03:40:50 AM »

Three explanations:
  • People can't hear 20kHz. Anyone older than 11 years old who claims they can hear up there (at normal volumes) is full of shit. I most certainly can't.
  • The spike is a driver distortion artifact that doesn't bear any resemblance to the overtones of the actual music.
  • The spike is a measurement artifact and does not exist to the extent as measured.
But yeah, LCD2/3 have no air compared to most other headphones.

allllrighty then! i get it now. sucks to hear it has no air. i thought anything past around the 14k range would give some airness to the sound.
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Re: Audeze LCD-3 Sample 2
« Reply #9 on: February 18, 2012, 03:43:17 AM »

Wouldn't you think a 20k spike help with air?  What about the Take T BPP super tweeter?   ;D

btw, Jude's review on Head-fi TV is pretty funny...

what the...what is that thing? how does it eve work? looks interesting but retarded at the same time.
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