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Re: LCD-X Measurements, Review, Stream of Consciousness Post
« Reply #30 on: November 09, 2013, 11:59:59 PM »

Ah, thanks. Kinda scary to spend quite a few dollars and have it not sound like you'd expect.
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Re: LCD-X Measurements, Review, Stream of Consciousness Post
« Reply #31 on: November 10, 2013, 10:55:03 AM »

LCD-2 variance. For the most part, the LCD2.2s have been consistent, but there was one LCD2.2 I heard a OCAS / Headroom meet in Buena Park many years ago which was downright nasty in the treble. 11-12k spike. I think Anax should remember that pair since he was the one who brought it to me and casually mentioned "you gotta hear this". I met LFF at that meet. Those were the seeds for Changstar.


Indeed! Seems like a long time ago.
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Re: LCD-X Measurements, Review, Stream of Consciousness Post
« Reply #32 on: November 10, 2013, 11:48:19 PM »

LCD-2 variance. For the most part, the LCD2.2s have been consistent, but there was one LCD2.2 I heard a OCAS / Headroom meet in Buena Park many years ago which was downright nasty in the treble. 11-12k spike. I think Anax should remember that pair since he was the one who brought it to me and casually mentioned "you gotta hear this". I met LFF at that meet. Those were the seeds for Changstar.


Indeed! Seems like a long time ago.

Yeah.  Inconsistent Audeze impressions and quality control had more to do with creating this site than anything else.  A lot of us just got fed up w/ the BS and hype.  I know the Lcd2.1 was the first ToTL phone I was looking to buy after joining HF and reading the ritualized circle jerk.  Till I heard one...
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Re: LCD-X Measurements, Review, Stream of Consciousness Post
« Reply #33 on: November 11, 2013, 02:28:54 AM »

That's how we became friends at Venice, CA meet. You did your pseudo inquisitive thing: "Hey... so... what do you think about the LCD2? (r1)"


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Re: LCD-X Measurements, Review, Stream of Consciousness Post
« Reply #34 on: November 11, 2013, 08:48:03 AM »

And people carry the train on claiming it was meant to be "creamy."  popcorn

Thank you for the comments and comparisons guys, really eye opening how different the responses are from forum to forum.

I remember my LCD3 which was a newer pair sounding oddly veiled, borderline uncomfortably so. However, my LCD2.2 was pretty much just right at the treble, definitely not peaky or anything. It just had more clarity than the LCD3 I had. Part of me wanted to think that it was just because I had owned the same 2.2 for over a year and my ears were more adjusted to that, but that's just nonsense. I hear what I hear, and I know what I hear, and what I heard was no bueno.

I wonder what is the root cause of such inconsistensies. It seems each product they come out with always has some sort of crap at the start, and you'd think after the third time they'd get it right.
Maybe they needed more R&D but had to rush for CanJam, and didn't want to pull a JHAudio, so they pushed for production on an imperfect product?
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Re: LCD-X Measurements, Review, Stream of Consciousness Post
« Reply #35 on: December 04, 2013, 04:15:05 PM »

Could anyone with a LCDX in possession pop open the grill and show us the Fazor mod irl? Much obliged.
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Re: LCD-X Measurements, Review, Stream of Consciousness Post
« Reply #36 on: December 04, 2013, 04:50:19 PM »

Sure thing. One is a top down picture with the grills taken off. It's just a metal diffuser bolted on to the back of the driver. The second picture is a "side" view to see how high the ridges are.
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Re: LCD-X Measurements, Review, Stream of Consciousness Post
« Reply #37 on: December 04, 2013, 05:27:21 PM »

Sure thing. One is a top down picture with the grills taken off. It's just a metal diffuser bolted on to the back of the driver. The second picture is a "side" view to see how high the ridges are.

Thanks. They look slick! I wonder how much of an impact (positive / negative) they have on the sound.
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Re: LCD-X Measurements, Review, Stream of Consciousness Post
« Reply #38 on: December 04, 2013, 08:59:37 PM »

I wonder too, but I'm too scared to unbolt the thing from the driver.

The treble is harder and more unrefined on the LCD-X compared to my HD800 here (and rougher than even the LCD-2 based on auditory memory). The HD800 treble rendering is smoother and sweeter, even with the 6K peak. After seeing the Fazor thing, maybe it's the treble waves bouncing off that hunk of metal. Strangely though, the 8K peak that the measurements here show aren't as troublesome for me as the 6K one on the HD800. Maybe I can't hear past 7K.
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Re: LCD-X Measurements, Review, Stream of Consciousness Post
« Reply #39 on: December 04, 2013, 09:08:59 PM »

Nah, 6K peaks are just incredibly annoying based on the information that gets rendered there.  It's not your ears.  Nails on a chalk board are always painful.
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