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On EQing "correctly" with a 5-band fixed equalizer?
« on: June 29, 2013, 09:45:22 PM »

I demoed a pair of B&W P3s at an Apple store a while back. Wasn't particular impressed overall; the mids was muddy and the treble distant-sounding, but I was struck by how comfortable and lightweight they were - I have a history of not being able to tolerate on-ear headphones for long periods of time, but these felt quite good while maintaining a secure fit on the head. I thought it might be quite a good backup pair of headphones for portable use when CIEMs are too much of a hassle.

Found one for sale on the Head-Fi forums at a very reasonable price and snapped it up to give it a shot at home. Sounds about the same as I remember it to, started playing with it and the AK100's equalizer. I looked up a graph of the P3s and just took a look at how big the dips here and there were, then guesstimated the EQ changes and listened to songs I'm familiar with. After some adjustments, it sounds pretty tolerable. I can likely live with this for casual listening time at work and on walks.

Curiosity is sinking in, and I'm wondering if there's a more scientific approach to doing this with the limited EQ options the AK100 provides.
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Re: On EQing "correctly" with a 5-band fixed equalizer?
« Reply #1 on: June 29, 2013, 10:47:02 PM »

Without knowing the bands I can only recommend something like trying -8 dB for lows and -10 dB low mids. That is, if you get good seal with them.
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Re: On EQing "correctly" with a 5-band fixed equalizer?
« Reply #2 on: June 30, 2013, 08:00:37 AM »

If the headphone has a sound signature that is easily to equalise five bands of EQ can work somewhat.

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Re: On EQing "correctly" with a 5-band fixed equalizer?
« Reply #3 on: July 01, 2013, 08:32:36 AM »

Even if the 5 bands fit, you will get this at best inexact, at worst completely terrible.

I'd try first equalizing with something usable, then derivng "by glance" the best fit - I mean weighted least squares.
If you find some frequencies more annoying than others, make sure the error there is the least. For me, that's around 5-8 kHz.
Then tweak by ear until it's not bad and sounds close to the precise equalization.
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Re: On EQing "correctly" with a 5-band fixed equalizer?
« Reply #4 on: July 01, 2013, 08:00:59 PM »

Without knowing the bands I can only recommend something like trying -8 dB for lows and -10 dB low mids. That is, if you get good seal with them.

I've been following this guideline in regards to EQ - removing as opposed to adding. While I was playing around with the settings I tried EQing a boost in the treble, but found it to cause physical pain on some of the bright recordings I have.

They sound pretty good. Thanks for the feedback, was just curious if there was a "scientific" way of approaching a limited equalizer.
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Re: On EQing "correctly" with a 5-band fixed equalizer?
« Reply #5 on: July 01, 2013, 08:03:20 PM »

Without information on the bands you can only hope the equalizer actually works.
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Re: On EQing "correctly" with a 5-band fixed equalizer?
« Reply #6 on: July 01, 2013, 10:43:02 PM »

Weighted least squares is as scientific as it gets. That doesn't mean it'll get you the desired result - its weighting is symmetrical, while yours might be skewed.
There are perhaps even better methods.
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