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Re: Speakers suggestions Needed
« Reply #20 on: June 16, 2013, 06:59:20 AM »

Both those speakers are designed to be used on stands, and are rear ported, and you want to use them on a shelf 18" from the wall.  Given your setup constraints, you would be better off with front ported or sealed speakers.  As I said before, active pro monitors are designed exactly for your setup situation. 

Of course, you have to get what floats your boat.  I have not listened to the Fritz speakers.  The LS50's sounded very impressive in show conditions.  There are, I believe, several retailers in NYC where you can go hear the LS50's anytime they are open.  I'm not sure if there is a Spendor retailer here, but they make small sealed two ways that could be worth checking out. 

You live in a city with a lot of great retailers.  You are willing to spend a decent amount of money on a pair of speakers.  Go around to different shops, tell them what your setup is like, and audition some speakers.  Start at Lyric Hi Fi, Innovative Audio, and Stereo Exchange, and bring some music.  All of them have at least one speaker that fits your parameters, and you would really be doing yourself a favor by going around and listening instead of just asking us yahoos on the internet.  Plus, it would be fun.

The pro stuff is harder to audition, Guitar Center has a lot of stuff, and BH Photo has a room setup for auditioning, but the speakers are all setup poorly.

Happy hunting.
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Re: Speakers suggestions Needed
« Reply #21 on: June 16, 2013, 02:42:35 PM »

The vintage Walsh speakers were notoriously unreliable and had serious problems in terms of driver behavior and coherence across the frequency range. From what I understand the newer ones have shifted away from being FR single driver based to a design a little bit more like a Shahinian with a separate tweeter that points between you and the ceiling. Still, there's a reason why these guys are vastly more expensive than Ohm speakers. The concept is sound, but the execution at bargain prices is maybe a bit lacking.


And this is supposed to mean something?
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Re: Speakers suggestions Needed
« Reply #22 on: June 16, 2013, 09:25:04 PM »

The Kef L-50 (?), something with 50 in the name, that Stereophile reviewed. Or if you want to go really budget, the Wharfdale Diamond. Otherwise, I would look for sealed box speakers, asI find ported speakers tending toward muddy or bloomy for my taste. Of course, a lot depends on your musical preferences. Good luck.
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Re: Speakers suggestions Needed
« Reply #23 on: June 16, 2013, 09:38:27 PM »

PMC does both active and passive monitors and is very good at both. The Neumanns I've heard were very nice, Genelecs are also good but they can be on the bright side. Not a fan of Dynaudio actives or Focals in general. I had Dynaudio BM12As on my desk for awhile, very blah. Unfortunately the mini Maggies wont work with only a foot and a half of space behind them.

The PSB Imagine Mini definitely isn't a bad little speaker but the Synchrony One is WAY better, though it may be just a smidge too big for the role.

Dave:
One speaker that has always looked--on paper--like a quality active-monitor option at a decent price is the JBL LSR-28 (?), 8" active, approx. $1500/pair. Have you heard or used them? Are they worth a look? Thanks, JT

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Re: Speakers suggestions Needed
« Reply #24 on: June 16, 2013, 10:41:34 PM »

The vintage Walsh speakers were notoriously unreliable and had serious problems in terms of driver behavior and coherence across the frequency range. From what I understand the newer ones have shifted away from being FR single driver based to a design a little bit more like a Shahinian with a separate tweeter that points between you and the ceiling. Still, there's a reason why these guys are vastly more expensive than Ohm speakers. The concept is sound, but the execution at bargain prices is maybe a bit lacking.


And this is supposed to mean something?

What I mean is, it's hard enough to make a FR driver that only has to radiate in one direction. 360 degrees is that much harder. Almost all the omnis on the market are two-ways that point cone drivers at the ceiling. Even MBL doesn't attempt FR from one driver. German Physiks has basically nailed what the Walsh driver was trying to do but at a very high cost.
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Re: Speakers suggestions Needed
« Reply #25 on: June 16, 2013, 11:19:06 PM »

The vintage Walsh speakers were notoriously unreliable and had serious problems in terms of driver behavior and coherence across the frequency range. From what I understand the newer ones have shifted away from being FR single driver based to a design a little bit more like a Shahinian with a separate tweeter that points between you and the ceiling. Still, there's a reason why these guys are vastly more expensive than Ohm speakers. The concept is sound, but the execution at bargain prices is maybe a bit lacking.


And this is supposed to mean something?

What I mean is, it's hard enough to make a FR driver that only has to radiate in one direction. 360 degrees is that much harder. Almost all the omnis on the market are two-ways that point cone drivers at the ceiling. Even MBL doesn't attempt FR from one driver. German Physiks has basically nailed what the Walsh driver was trying to do but at a very high cost.

I don't think you really understood what I actually meant.
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Re: Speakers suggestions Needed
« Reply #26 on: July 23, 2013, 02:56:32 AM »


In case the issue is not resolved, you should think about the ATC SCM 11 and SCM 7 monitors.  They are the current iteration of ATC near field monitors.  The first generation was designed for professional near field listening.  I have a pair of passive 10s on my work table.  I can't speak for the 11s, but the 10s are sensational in this application (as are the 7s, which my son uses).  The 11s are just under $2000 and the 7s are just over $1000.  The distributor (now previous distributor) Flat Earth Audio stopped carrying the line on July 1, but I've heard has some stock (can't say what) that might be had at a discount.
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Re: Speakers suggestions Needed
« Reply #27 on: July 23, 2013, 03:10:04 AM »

for ATC, talk to Pat Keogh: https://www.facebook.com/34ShadyDrive .  a really cool guy and can hook you up.
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Re: Speakers suggestions Needed
« Reply #28 on: September 18, 2013, 09:32:27 PM »

Not sure about availability in th US but Mission (British) make some brilliant bookshelf speakers. If you check out their website, you'll see the different ranges.
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