CHANGSTAR: Audiophile Headphone Reviews and Early 90s Style BBS
Lobby => Headphone Measurements => Topic started by: ultrabike on January 24, 2015, 06:40:12 PM
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First, thanks to Gelocks for providing these and the 840s and 880s! :)p5
Sound
These might be a step up from the 880s and 840s in many ways. They are smoother IMO. These are still bassy and the bass there is not very well defined. Great impact from these. In many ways these are fun cans.
The treble is sparkling and somewhat artificial depending on the song. Mids are good and well defined IMO. Perhaps less recessed than with the 880s and 840s. I detected some sibilance and grain with these.
For a closed can these sounded pretty open.
Comfort
These are tight, and the headband might benefit from more cushion. Not bad for what they are.
Presentation
These have the classic studio/club looks along with the features. Remind me a lot of the M50s. But they are not black >:(. They are plastiky, but the plastic feels old-Fisher-Price-toy strong.
Price
$1000 so horrible. Probably among the priciest studio type headphones I've seen... could be worse though (http://www.amazon.com/Ultrasone-Surround-Professional-Closed-back-Headphones/dp/B00GZ0X9L6/ref=sr_1_cc_1?s=aps&ie=UTF8&qid=1422124273&sr=1-1-catcorr&keywords=ultrasone+limited)
Overal
Not bad, but consider an ATH-M50 for a good bassy signature w less trebleness and hell of a lot less dead presidents.
Notes
The impedance measurements seem to indicate that the driver for these and the 880s and 840s are similar or the same, except for some possible random coating here or there. But who knows, maybe they are not the same.
Measurements
Frequency Response
(http://www.changstar.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=2084.0;attach=8594;image)
Distortion Right
(http://www.changstar.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=2084.0;attach=8596;image)
Distortion Left
(http://www.changstar.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=2084.0;attach=8598;image)
CSD Left
(http://www.changstar.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=2084.0;attach=8600;image)
CSD Right
(http://www.changstar.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=2084.0;attach=8602;image)
Impedance
(http://www.changstar.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=2084.0;attach=8604;image)
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For distortion plots above, ignore the % numbers in the labels as they correspond to particular point in the frequency/dB plot not shown in the plot (since I did not include the cursor). Go by the y-axis in dB.
Here are some comparos:
Comparo with the 840s and 880s
(http://www.changstar.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=2084.0;attach=8607;image)
Comparo with the M50s
(http://www.changstar.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=2084.0;attach=8609;image)
Comparo with the HD600s
(http://www.changstar.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=2084.0;attach=8611;image)
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Ok... maybe impedances are not exactly the same, but close...
(http://www.changstar.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=2084.0;attach=8613;image)
CRAP! Ok in the impedance comparo above USE THE RIGHT Y-AXIS for ohms... Hopefully REW will fix this in the next iteration.
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I think I bought these for like $750 or so a couple of years ago when they were released. Used it can probably be found for less. For some reason these are one of my favorite headphones even though they are not very comfortable but they are fun, clean, a bit aggressive and sound good (to my ears) with tracks ranging from Daft Punk to El Gran Combo de Puerto Rico! :p
Thanks for the plots!
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No worries, and thanks dude!!!
These are indeed fun and aggressive, but not bad at all... Just a bit MSRP pricey.
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No worries, and thanks dude!!!
These are indeed fun and aggressive, but not bad at all... Just a bit MSRP pricey.
Yeah, like EVERY Ultrasone in existence!! :(
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:)p13 :)p13 :)p13
I thought you meant "I like EVER Ultrasone in existence!!". Must be my mind playing mind tricks on itself.
Yup. Dunno what the deal is with Ultrasone prices. Must be that $-Logic deal.
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I bough one used for around $ 650 a year back. My fav HP for when I am traveling. I listen to a lot of EDM & this HP was made for EDM IMO. Quite easy to drive too, so can make do with a normal DAP. Love the feel of the leather on the bands & earcups.Find them quite comfy, yes they have a tight grip but thats exactly the reason why they have decent isolation & thus can be used on a plane. They are quite FUN as you mentioned & a good comlpelment to my other FUN HP - the TH900.
Thanks for the measurements.
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Imo the best Ultrasone together with the Signature Pro. Don't let the dark shadow that Ultrasone cast for themselves (with their subpar releases like the ED12, 10, Pro 900 and Co) decide too much. They are worthy to be auditioned.
Fitting prices would be 399-449 though.
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Imo the best Ultrasone together with the Signature Pro. Don't let the dark shadow that Ultrasone cast for themselves (with their subpar releases like the ED12, 10, Pro 900 and Co) decide too much. They are worthy to be auditioned.
Fitting prices would be 399-449 though.
+1
I liked a bit the ed12 too. Still overpriced but not so bad.