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Title: Way too funny. Only on HF...
Post by: Marvey on June 11, 2015, 03:40:19 AM
Way too funny. Only on HF...
Title: Re: Way too funny. Only on HF...
Post by: ohhgourami on June 11, 2015, 03:45:30 AM
Lol merv
Title: Re: Way too funny. Only on HF...
Post by: Marvey on June 11, 2015, 03:50:56 AM
Yeah, I figured if he wasn't going to take the time to capitalize, punctuate, and spell correctly, neither was I.
Title: Re: Way too funny. Only on HF...
Post by: thegunner100 on June 11, 2015, 03:56:28 AM
He did capitalized his "I"s though, so you have to give him credit for that. Unless it was autocorrected by his phone or something.
Title: Re: Way too funny. Only on HF...
Post by: Marvey on June 11, 2015, 04:04:51 AM
Oh lord, help me.


(http://www.changstar.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=2502.0;attach=10093;image)
Title: Re: Way too funny. Only on HF...
Post by: kothganesh on June 11, 2015, 04:23:03 AM
I don't know when I am going to die laughing... starting with the Tari comment (or even earlier) this deliberate misspelling is just awesome
Title: Re: Way too funny. Only on HF...
Post by: Marvey on June 11, 2015, 04:24:46 AM
<giggles>
Title: Re: Way too funny. Only on HF...
Post by: frenchbat on June 11, 2015, 04:43:51 AM
Oh, so Agooh is called Matt. I thought he was a chinese from a labor camp with the obligation to post shill messages fro Chord ...
Title: Re: Way too funny. Only on HF...
Post by: jexby on June 11, 2015, 04:46:43 AM
holy schiit this is ROTFL.

but if we start a thread for every dumb ass user or moderator on head-fi, can changstar scale to terabytes of data or forum traffic?
Title: Re: Way too funny. Only on HF...
Post by: zerodeefex on June 11, 2015, 04:53:44 AM
don't worry, we have a plan to scale chang to 10,000 qps.
Title: Re: Way too funny. Only on HF...
Post by: Griffon on June 11, 2015, 05:12:27 AM
Oh, so Agooh is called Matt. I thought he was a chinese from a labor camp with the obligation to post shill messages fro Chord ...

Hey hiring a whole dedicated Chinese labor camp with this level of English literacy is not worth it for Chord...
Title: Re: Way too funny. Only on HF...
Post by: frenchbat on June 11, 2015, 05:14:57 AM
Hey hiring a whole dedicated Chinese labor camp with this level of English literacy is not worth it for Chord...
Oh you can't get a single section ? Hiring the whole camp is compulsory ? Ah shucks, there goes my business plan ...
Title: Re: Way too funny. Only on HF...
Post by: Griffon on June 11, 2015, 05:18:38 AM
Oh you can't get a single section ? Hiring the whole camp is compulsory ? Ah shucks, there goes my business plan ...

I meant the labor cost. Plus, connection speed from China to any foreigh site takes forever to load (my own exp...)
Title: Re: Way too funny. Only on HF...
Post by: Anaxilus on June 11, 2015, 06:50:20 AM
Hey hiring a whole dedicated Chinese labor camp with this level of English literacy is not worth it for Chord...

Well, Chord is British so even harder to understand.
Title: Re: Way too funny. Only on HF...
Post by: takato14 on June 11, 2015, 07:32:43 AM
oh god, I completely lost it at "merv"
Title: Re: Way too funny. Only on HF...
Post by: recarcar on June 11, 2015, 07:37:49 AM
This is gold :)p13
Title: Re: Way too funny. Only on HF...
Post by: Deep Funk on June 11, 2015, 07:46:42 AM
Now recommend him the KSC75 and Clip + to provoke his "I am a fucking high roller, only top of the line matters. My 5K set-up is better than yours." and it is official: he is an elitist Dolan who lives out his "Gooby pls" fantasies in audio.
Title: Re: Way too funny. Only on HF...
Post by: Riotvan on June 11, 2015, 08:51:55 AM
Tell him he should've spent daddies money on a proper education :)p13
Title: Re: Way too funny. Only on HF...
Post by: frenchbat on June 11, 2015, 09:07:43 AM
Looks like I managed to push Agooh over. It wasn't so hard actually. His last post has been moderated without me reporting it.
Title: Re: Way too funny. Only on HF...
Post by: Sorrodje on June 11, 2015, 10:55:18 AM
 :)p13 :)p13  ... Merv'  :)p13 :)p13
Title: Re: Way too funny. Only on HF...
Post by: Deep Funk on June 11, 2015, 12:39:24 PM
Yup...

(http://treasure.diylol.com/uploads/post/image/294917/resized_princess-derp-meme-generator-ermahgerd-sterm-trerpers-10a2c0.jpg)
Title: Re: Way too funny. Only on HF...
Post by: jacal01 on June 24, 2015, 10:37:19 PM
I don't think you guys appreciate how much Matt works on his online persona.  Misspellings and superfluous capitalizations in the face of word processing autocorrecting software such as spellcheck are a 21st century art form, really.
Title: Re: Way too funny. Only on HF...
Post by: Marvey on June 29, 2015, 09:11:20 PM
Hmmm. A lot of effort to protect Chord. Not sure what rule I violated.
Title: Re: Way too funny. Only on HF...
Post by: Colgin on June 29, 2015, 09:21:42 PM
Hmmm. A lot of effort to protect Chord. Not sure what rule I violated.


Unbelievable (except not really, right). I went to the HF TOS to see what they were relying on with their deletion. All I could come up with was a very hmm "expansive" reading of this MOT rule: "5. A Member of the Trade may not post subjective assessments or negative comments about the products/services of competitors." So, I guess MOT's cannot make any subjective comment or criticism of any manufacturer because everyone is in effect "competitors" with everyone else, even if your company makes only amps and you are commenting on DAC makers. What BS!
Title: Re: Way too funny. Only on HF...
Post by: ultrabike on June 29, 2015, 09:25:09 PM
In other words, become a $pon$or.
Title: Re: Way too funny. Only on HF...
Post by: maverickronin on June 29, 2015, 09:28:00 PM
I must have missed that new EC DAC huh?
Title: Re: Way too funny. Only on HF...
Post by: Anaxilus on June 29, 2015, 09:28:36 PM

Unbelievable (except not really, right). I went to the HF TOS to see what they were relying on with their deletion. All I could come up with was a very hmm "expansive" reading of this MOT rule: "5. A Member of the Trade may not post subjective assessments or negative comments about the products/services of competitors." So, I guess MOT's cannot make any subjective comment or criticism of any manufacturer because everyone is in effect "competitors" with everyone else, even if your company makes only amps and you are commenting on DAC makers. What BS!

Don't look for any logic in their ToS or an explanation for arbitrary moderation techniques. That's the last thing you need when you want to be the king.
Title: Re: Way too funny. Only on HF...
Post by: Marvey on June 29, 2015, 09:31:25 PM
I think it was the "meet" angle, that is no mention of Changstar (and its meets) are allowed.

I was told that I could say what I wanted about DACs, speakers, and headphones since EC doesn't make any. Amos has already set precedent with this too by allowing me commentary on DAC, headphones, etc.

The other possibility is someone at Chord flagged it; or Jude saw the King Jude postcard on top of the LG and flipped out. (Jude actually reads Changstar more than he should.)

See my response below. I wish he would just ban me so I can be a martyr. Between Joe and him, I've had like five warnings already in the last several months.


I must have missed that new EC DAC huh?

It doesn't exist. Not even on a napkin.

In other words, become a $pon$or.

Been trying to convince Craig. He was a sponsor a while back. Don't you guys remember?
Title: Re: Way too funny. Only on HF...
Post by: jexby on June 29, 2015, 11:01:55 PM
Don't look for any logic in their ToS or an explanation for arbitrary moderation techniques. That's the last thing you need when you want to be the king.


This.
It gut punches me to even visit head-fi these days knowing that Gestapo Jude and his SS mods delete at will, with prejudice, malice, continually perpetuating the false fronts of sponsor driven agendas or back channel deals.

moderation/censorship of the "public voice" is a worse crime than merely some audiophool magazine getting "paid to print positive reviews" based on advertising dollars.

Jude, and any mod dumb enough to be standing along side him, are getting an earful in person on Friday afternoon at RMAF.
anyone want to take the photo of me flipping him off in public?

 :& *:p )(
Title: Re: Way too funny. Only on HF...
Post by: OJneg on June 29, 2015, 11:13:19 PM
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Glad you are enjoying content at Changstar

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Title: Re: Way too funny. Only on HF...
Post by: Maxvla on June 30, 2015, 01:31:39 AM
good work merv.
Title: Re: Way too funny. Only on HF...
Post by: madaboutaudio on June 30, 2015, 01:58:06 AM
Why does Jude care so much about changstar?
There's plenty of other sites that you can get discussion on audio gear like Reddit, computer audiophile, gear slutz, audiogon, audio asylum to name a few.
Title: Re: Way too funny. Only on HF...
Post by: altrunox on June 30, 2015, 03:09:50 AM
Because Changstar have the messiah  :-DD

And it's probably the most organized, and noob friendly...
Title: Re: Way too funny. Only on HF...
Post by: aufmerksam on June 30, 2015, 03:14:58 AM
Because he is insecure, vain, and financially motivated to have all the headphone nerds to himself. Because he started banning / muzzling some of the more respected, critical people at HF and they built this instead. Because merv is cooler than he is, and just keeps being cool about it, and he can't stand it. Because "changstar" is a fucking retarded name for an audio website. I could keep going, but the bottom line is Jude inexplicably sees it as personal rebuke, and in a way it is but not in the way he thinks.
Title: Re: Way too funny. Only on HF...
Post by: Artasia on June 30, 2015, 03:34:05 AM
Yes, and the concept of "face". Don't forget that. :)p13
Title: Re: Way too funny. Only on HF...
Post by: Marvey on June 30, 2015, 03:38:54 AM
Because "changstar" is a fucking retarded name for an audio website.

LOL, changstar is a pretty retarded name; but that's why we are awesome. We can transcend the retarded name.
Title: Re: Way too funny. Only on HF...
Post by: ultrabike on June 30, 2015, 03:46:50 AM
(http://memecrunch.com/meme/8Y2VP/why-changstar/image.jpg?w=1024&c=1)
Title: Re: Way too funny. Only on HF...
Post by: zerodeefex on June 30, 2015, 03:47:30 AM
I always thought of it as an actual star, "Let the Changstar guide your way!"
Title: Re: Way too funny. Only on HF...
Post by: Artasia on June 30, 2015, 03:53:21 AM
 :boom: :boom: Chang = long or big in Chinese. I like  the name.
Title: Re: Way too funny. Only on HF...
Post by: jexby on June 30, 2015, 04:00:38 AM
Interesting.
I always thought changstar translated to: long duck dong.
Title: Re: Way too funny. Only on HF...
Post by: drfindley on June 30, 2015, 05:57:56 AM
:boom: :boom: Chang = long or big in Chinese. I like  the name.
So it's the Texas of headphone forums (Big/Long Star)? That'd explain the politics ;)
Title: Re: Way too funny. Only on HF...
Post by: Ringingears on June 30, 2015, 06:09:30 AM
Interesting.
I always thought changstar translated to: long duck dong.


"No more yanky my wanky. The Donger need food" ?
Title: Re: Way too funny. Only on HF...
Post by: thegunner100 on June 30, 2015, 12:43:42 PM
Haha wasn't there a post about how the name Changstar came about? I remember the inspiration came from motherboard manufacturers with chinese names or something like that.
Title: Re: Way too funny. Only on HF...
Post by: aufmerksam on June 30, 2015, 12:53:38 PM
yeah, there is an origin story about marv registering the domain ages ago while making fun of shitty chinese motherboards with ridiculous names: http://www.changstar.com/index.php/topic,547.0.html

it also was an actual badge on shitty brakes manufactured for department store bikes in the 80's and 90's: (http://www.loopframelove.com/wp-content/uploads/blogger/_rJ9amPQa2LY/TIPh6d4oh-I/AAAAAAAAHMo/HMhzrvlMS8k/s1600/IMG_0438.JPG)
Title: Re: Way too funny. Only on HF...
Post by: Claritas on June 30, 2015, 04:06:36 PM
I always thought of it as an actual star, "Let the Changstar guide your way!"

I also thought of it that way! Like the North Star which led the slaves to freedom. Consequently, for a long time I thought the name was Changestar (yeah, I never did my phonics homework).
Title: Re: Way too funny. Only on HF...
Post by: Mrip on June 30, 2015, 04:54:45 PM
I think you should re-post your opinions without the meet angle and see what happens...
Title: Re: Way too funny. Only on HF...
Post by: frenchbat on June 30, 2015, 05:29:02 PM
I think you should re-post your opinions without the meet angle and see what happens...
Same, plus an irrate Jude. HF is an ongoing flash mob. At least that's the way I take it now, way funnier this way.
Title: Re: Way too funny. Only on HF...
Post by: Marvey on June 30, 2015, 06:12:56 PM

I was serious in my reply that any references to Changstar meets wasn't intentional. In the context of the DAC thread post, the intention of those photos was to show that these DAC-offs were actually being done - not imagined by cousins who possessed the gear.

Rather not waste my time with a reply. I don't quite understand what rule I violated as an MOT, other than the unwritten rule about no mention of Changstar, not even indirectly. The rules at HF are capricious, given to peoples' mood swings, so not gonna bother.

Quite frankly, I don't even know why Jude is so obsessed about what we do here (according to IP logs, he reads a lot more of the content than he should). Then again, people who are supposedly close to him have intimated to me that he has mental problems.


Title: Re: Way too funny. Only on HF...
Post by: madaboutaudio on June 30, 2015, 08:16:12 PM
On the topic of funny, this guy literately cried while listening to the Orpheus
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPXiOirncTA
Title: Re: Way too funny. Only on HF...
Post by: madaboutaudio on June 30, 2015, 08:19:32 PM
I was serious in my reply that any references to Changstar meets wasn't intentional. In the context of the DAC thread post, the intention of those photos was to show that these DAC-offs were actually being done - not imagined by cousins who possessed the gear.

Rather not waste my time with a reply. I don't quite understand what rule I violated as an MOT, other than the unwritten rule about no mention of Changstar, not even indirectly. The rules at HF are capricious, given to peoples' mood swings, so not gonna bother.

Quite frankly, I don't even know why Jude is so obsessed about what we do here (according to IP logs, he reads a lot more of the content than he should). Then again, people who are supposedly close to him have intimated to me that he has mental problems.




I remember Currawong was the one doing most, if not all of the moderation on head-fi dac section. seldom do you see Jude hanging around there.


Fictitious story: Who's the king of hill? purrin points towards the guy with the HE1000.
(http://res.cloudinary.com/indiegogo-media-prod-cld/image/upload/c_limit,w_620/v1432174150/lxhvl7annr1c5jxs5ffm.jpg)
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/L4qSyYH_Vyc/hqdefault.jpg)
Title: Re: Way too funny. Only on HF...
Post by: lm4der on June 30, 2015, 08:38:13 PM
Rather not waste my time with a reply. I don't quite understand what rule I violated as an MOT, other than the unwritten rule about no mention of Changstar, not even indirectly. The rules at HF are capricious, given to peoples' mood swings, so not gonna bother.

Just wondering, couldn't one in theory simply ask Jude in a PM the specifics around what rule the post violated, and how?  That would seem reasonable, but I get that things may not be reasonable over there, and I also get that one may not want to bother with attempting that communication.  Just curious...
Title: Re: Way too funny. Only on HF...
Post by: insidious meme on June 30, 2015, 08:45:28 PM
On the topic of funny, this guy literately cried while listening to the Orpheus


That would have been me had I dropped the Orpheus amp I was helping the owner bring back to his car after a meet.
Title: Re: Way too funny. Only on HF...
Post by: Anaxilus on June 30, 2015, 08:48:31 PM
Just wondering, couldn't one in theory simply ask Jude in a PM the specifics around what rule the post violated, and how?  That would seem reasonable, but I get that things may not be reasonable over there, and I also get that one may not want to bother with attempting that communication.  Just curious...

You think everyone here hasn't already exchanged a zillion pm's over there in an attempt at communication? Or even spent a few days trying to have a mature conversation in person face to face? GL!! People who come here thinking most of us didn't exhaust all reasonable means already are simply ill informed.

Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

The only 'reason' they have over there is $$$$.

In the end, they have their schtick and more power to them. We could care less what they do. Yet, someone over there seems to really care about what we do. I think that's all that needs to be said about it.

Title: Re: Way too funny. Only on HF...
Post by: madaboutaudio on June 30, 2015, 09:42:03 PM
Guess this song is dedicated to him(literally)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTFkegYGE1Y
Hey Jude, don't make it bad...
Title: Re: Way too funny. Only on HF...
Post by: Deep Funk on June 30, 2015, 09:51:26 PM
Did you know that Paul McCartney's mentioning of the Beatles back catalogue led to MJ buying that back catalogue?

You can learn one thing from that. If you want emperor Jude to listen, buy HF or get a big share.
Title: Re: Way too funny. Only on HF...
Post by: aufmerksam on June 30, 2015, 10:12:03 PM
Yeah, but then didn't MJ sell most of it back to McCartney when MJ needed to pay for all those lawyers? I'm hoping the parable breaks down at this point...
Title: Re: Way too funny. Only on HF...
Post by: Deep Funk on July 01, 2015, 12:02:58 AM
Yeah, but then didn't MJ sell most of it back to McCartney when MJ needed to pay for all those lawyers? I'm the parable breaks down at this point...

True. MJ was not a good business man or very smart in that regard. Do not despair though, you can still throw money at HF and have a say. How much I do not know...
Title: Re: Way too funny. Only on HF...
Post by: aive on July 01, 2015, 04:58:11 AM
Then again, people who are supposedly close to him have intimated to me that he has mental problems.

Lolwtf?? He presents himself very well in his videos.....
Title: Re: Way too funny. Only on HF...
Post by: maverickronin on July 01, 2015, 02:09:18 PM
Lolwtf?? He presents himself very well in his videos.....

I've met him a couple times in person and never got that impression either.
Title: Re: Way too funny. Only on HF...
Post by: Azteca X on July 01, 2015, 02:17:05 PM
People are quick to label character flaws or negative personality traits as mental illness these days. If you're a narcissist, control freak etc. those aren't necessarily clinical-level problems. There is overlap, of course.
Title: Re: Way too funny. Only on HF...
Post by: Anaxilus on July 01, 2015, 04:49:14 PM
I've met him a couple times in person and never got that impression either.
Lolwtf?? He presents himself very well in his videos.....

You should read his emails. In person he seems like he wants to be your friend. Till you hit a nerve...like Changstar.
Title: Re: Way too funny. Only on HF...
Post by: Ringingears on July 01, 2015, 05:15:19 PM
Yeah, but then didn't MJ sell most of it back to McCartney when MJ needed to pay for all those lawyers? I'm hoping the parable breaks down at this point...

No it was Sony IIRC. Paul actually bid for the rights but lost to MJ who outbid him. Rumor is it killed their friendship.
Title: Re: Way too funny. Only on HF...
Post by: Maxx134 on July 02, 2015, 03:54:48 AM
there are members over there that really do not have good hearing , and we will discover them as the ones who do not view yggy to be better than most.
I also feel there can be another agendas as well playing there...
($$)
I will be surprised if any popular reviewer does any direct comparisons to more expensive dacs
.
Title: Re: Way too funny. Only on HF...
Post by: madaboutaudio on July 02, 2015, 04:59:52 AM
there are members over there that really do not have good hearing , and we will discover them as the ones who do not view yggy to be better than most.
I also feel there can be another agendas as well playing there...
($$)
I will be surprised if any popular reviewer does any direct comparisons to more expensive dacs
.

Other than Tyll hertsens who is going to write about the Yggdrasil. I don't think others like John Darko will be doing anything on the Ygg. I am beginning to suspect the lack of professional review on the Ygg could be either due to lack of review units or it could be a more secretive reasoning of not writing a review on a cheaper more high performing dac, as you know that some of these magazines rely on advertisement revenue from these high end boutique dac companies.
Title: Re: Way too funny. Only on HF...
Post by: zerodeefex on July 02, 2015, 05:10:46 AM
Schiit doesn't give free units to reviewers. That might be why you don't see as many pro reviews as you'd like.
Title: Re: Way too funny. Only on HF...
Post by: jexby on July 02, 2015, 05:18:44 AM
am trying to suss out the reasons for Darko's recent tweets about Chord and Nighthawk headphone pairings.
 :vomit:
Title: Re: Way too funny. Only on HF...
Post by: Anaxilus on July 02, 2015, 05:35:12 AM
Schiit doesn't give free units to reviewers. That might be why you don't see as many pro reviews as you'd like.

I know we paid for our Yggys. Let me check my bank account real quick. Yup, still empty.
Title: Re: Way too funny. Only on HF...
Post by: Deep Funk on July 02, 2015, 09:46:28 AM
I know we paid for our Yggys. Let me check my bank account real quick. Yup, still empty.

You can make it a rule of thumb for "professional" reviewers. Receipt or you do not have it.

In the photography world this is a kind of unwritten indication of fair bias or being unbiased when you have comparable gear.
Title: Re: Way too funny. Only on HF...
Post by: Sorrodje on July 02, 2015, 10:18:47 AM
Darko is a professional reviewer??
Title: Re: Way too funny. Only on HF...
Post by: Hifi01170 on July 02, 2015, 01:44:40 PM
have heard about ur chord review... Sorrodje! so it sure raises questions on his reviews if chord products are that bad... Never had and never will spend such amount of money on such products!
Title: Re: Way too funny. Only on HF...
Post by: aufmerksam on July 02, 2015, 03:00:31 PM
Darko is a professional reviewer??
Pretty sure "professional reviewer" just means that you get free shit in exchange for reviews. The way "professional" athletes in fringe sports are "sponsored" by companies (free gear) but still have day jobs in the off season.
Title: Re: Way too funny. Only on HF...
Post by: Deep Funk on July 02, 2015, 10:31:58 PM
Pretty sure "professional reviewer" just means that you get free shit in exchange for reviews. The way "professional" athletes in fringe sports are "sponsored" by companies (free gear) but still have day jobs in the off season.

Free shit. I guess he does not need his intestines and ass hole any more. Manufacturers use him as a number 2 latrine. Of course he could be a single part of a human centipede. According to some the millipede from Charlie the Unicorn is related to him.

Who knows?
Title: Re: Way too funny. Only on HF...
Post by: maverickronin on July 05, 2015, 05:57:37 PM
I didn't like your favorite amp, therefore I don't know how to operate it....
Title: Re: Way too funny. Only on HF...
Post by: Marvey on July 06, 2015, 12:19:10 AM
LOL!

The O2 is actually quite capable of driving the HEK. I tried it myself and was surprised. Quite crisp without the softness. Many other lower end amps I've tried actually make the HEK soft sounding.

Not doubting your findings. MZ2 seems low on power and class D digital amp part (the ZOTL impedance matching gizmo) can tend toward a soft sound, especially with HEK.


Maybe you should ask if his ears are broken, or perhaps if the O2 is simply less borked.
Title: Re: Way too funny. Only on HF...
Post by: Hands on July 06, 2015, 12:25:48 AM
Sounds like something a particular MOT would write (and, well, many/most other HFers). Oh, something didn't sound right? You should probably have it looked at since, you know, everyone else loves it and everyone loves everything else because everything else is awesome except when you think it isn't, in which case it's either defective or you suck as a person.
Title: Re: Way too funny. Only on HF...
Post by: maverickronin on July 06, 2015, 12:44:59 AM
Not doubting your findings. MZ2 seems low on power and class D digital amp part (the ZOTL impedance matching gizmo) can tend toward a soft sound, especially with HEK.

What exactly is its output stage then?  Does it really just feed the 6SN7s into a switching buffer?  Despite the clear plastic top, I wasn't able to get a good look at it.
Title: Re: Way too funny. Only on HF...
Post by: Marvey on July 06, 2015, 12:53:47 AM
Not 100% sure, but seems to be so. There's no free lunch, no magical black boxes, unless it's from Gallifrey.
Title: Re: Way too funny. Only on HF...
Post by: maverickronin on July 06, 2015, 01:21:32 AM
Not 100% sure, but seems to be so. There's no free lunch, no magical black boxes, unless it's from Gallifrey.

At first I figured that they were just flat out lying about the power output and that it was just a push-pull OTL using 6SN7s as the output tubes.  Given their limited cathode current though, I'd think it should have sounded even worse with the HEK.

Anyway, I just looked up the patent... (http://www.google.com/patents/US5612646)

So yeah, that is one fucked up topology...

How do they get away calling this an OTL?

I should have tried something higher Z like my HD650s with the MZ2 to see if that helped it all.  I also should have tried the HEK on Stratus at the next table over but didn't have the time.
Title: Re: Way too funny. Only on HF...
Post by: smitty1110 on July 06, 2015, 01:17:00 PM
I personally feel that they can't call it OTL, there's a fucking choke at the output. I'm going to have a lot of fun ripping into it if they come to CAF...
Title: Re: Way too funny. Only on HF...
Post by: PelPix on July 10, 2015, 05:01:05 PM
LOL!

The O2 is actually quite capable of driving the HEK. I tried it myself and was surprised. Quite crisp without the softness. Many other lower end amps I've tried actually make the HEK soft sounding.

Not doubting your findings. MZ2 seems low on power and class D digital amp part (the ZOTL impedance matching gizmo) can tend toward a soft sound, especially with HEK.


Maybe you should ask if his ears are broken, or perhaps if the O2 is simply less borked.

As much as I'm not a fan of the O2's silvery sound, I can't deny that it's fascinating in its ability to seemingly drive anything and do it well
Have you ever tried upping the wall wart power on the O2? Not even by a huge margin: just a little bit. like 16V1A It gets...a lot better. I have no explanation. Measurements don't indicate any added distortion.
Title: Re: Way too funny. Only on HF...
Post by: maverickronin on July 10, 2015, 05:32:03 PM
As much as I'm not a fan of the O2's silvery sound, I can't deny that it's fascinating in its ability to seemingly drive anything and do it well
Have you ever tried upping the wall wart power on the O2? Not even by a huge margin: just a little bit. like 16V1A It gets...a lot better. I have no explanation. Measurements don't indicate any added distortion.

A while ago min stopped working from batter power and before I opened it up and found that one of the batteries had died I tried it with a 16.5VAC 40VA I got from PartsExpress buyout to see if that would help it charge and didn't really notice any difference in the sound.
Title: Re: Way too funny. Only on HF...
Post by: AustinValentine on August 11, 2015, 03:06:45 PM
Well, it appears the censorship extends to PM now. (If it didn't before.)

Trying to respond to a question about [Redacted] and this happened.


NEVERMIND. As Ravi just pointed out, it's just DecentLevi not getting that I'm the one typing redacted.   Replied to him to clarify that. facepalm
Title: Re: Way too funny. Only on HF...
Post by: OJneg on August 11, 2015, 04:12:52 PM
The fact that that was his first assumption  :)p13.....glorious Head-Fi
Title: Re: Way too funny. Only on HF...
Post by: elwappo99 on September 13, 2015, 10:01:03 PM
If anyone wants to read some  poo that'll give you a wonderful sunday headache!

http://www.head-fi.org/t/778250/schiit-mjolnir-2-listening-impressions/315#post_11915678
Title: Re: Way too funny. Only on HF...
Post by: AustinValentine on September 13, 2015, 11:48:24 PM
Crossposting some of the deleted content from the above exchange, just to point out for posterity that rb2013 is an asshole. Currawong got in there sanitized everything.

Oh, also, apparently my pointing out what he's doing "was abusive." Ugh. 

_________________________________________

Originally Posted by rb2013
 
I trust David Mahler's and my ears over yours and Tyll - but stuff the earphones with cotton balls and duct tape if you want.  I love your comments on a cable that you've never heard - and then giving others advice about them - typical. :rolleyes:
 
Now I could have mentioned the SAA Endorphin cables - but they're more expensive.  I have heard them and they're even better - but maybe not worth the added cost over the Moons.
 
BTW those '3D modeling' plots were subject.  The HD800 are some of the most neutral and realistic HPs made.  Many other folks have shown near ruler flat plots.

Oh and David Mahler's comments on the HD800's. http://www.head-fi.org/t/634201/battle-of-the-flagships-58-headphones-compared#user_HD800
 
But I guess you're a greater authority on all things headphone and audio then David. :wink:
 
Edit: BTW I see from your profile the HD800's are 'enroute' - do you even have a pair?  I've had mine for three years of intense listening - three different cables - 5 different HP amps. You're a piece of work - could you give some more advice on 6922's.  Those OG's you recommend are superior (sarc):confused_face:
 
______________________________________________________________

Originally posted by AustinValentine

Wow, what a bunch of disingenuous bullshit.
 
Yes, I've had pairs in-house many times, and have listened to them off of my own gear - which I admit is modest. Moreover, I've had prolonged demos through gear exchanges with others and long demos at numerous Chicago area shows. At the last two shows, I had wonderful long listening sessions off of both @ogodei's pair with and stock his Questyle/DNA Stratus combo and then at the next show with someone's Anax modded pair (I think @zabzaf's) off of Ogodei's Yggy/Rag combo and the Pulse X-Fi Infinity/Cavalli Liquid Carbon.
 
But, none of that actually matters, because you didn't actually bring this up because you think that I hadn't heard the HD800 or really wanted to know about my gearing history and references. The rhetorical tactic that you're using here is called an "Attack on Ethos" - which, like the previous comments about sources, and your last comment about my tube recommendations, isn't about finding information or the process of discovery but is actually about insulting through the implication of a lack of experience (or, a lack of gearing). This type of rhetorical tactic is the definition of bad faith engagement.
 
And you're the one calling me a piece of work?
 
No one is asking you to believe me or Tyll over David Mahler. Actually, if I recall correctly, I don't remember my initial post addressing you at all. (Also, not that I don't think that David Mahler has listened or done enough to earn his place as one of many credible reviewers and sources, the way that you're utilizing him and his reviews is called an "Appeal to Authority" fallacy.)  And my second post largely kept to the issue of the HD800 mod - making no implications about your credibility, experience, gearing, or hearing. I snarked about recommending a large budget cable over a mod - but I'm pretty positive that that is not the first time that has happened on Head-Fi.
 
In any case, this is getting pretty far away from discussing the Schiit Mjolnir 2.

Title: Re: Way too funny. Only on HF...
Post by: iKhaos on September 14, 2015, 12:18:24 AM
Spotted this today while googling decent RCA cables: http://www.head-fi.org/t/629231/suggested-rca-cable#post_8732626

This person's using a $1200 Audioquest cable for a $250 pair of Audioengine A2s.
Title: Re: Way too funny. Only on HF...
Post by: elwappo99 on September 14, 2015, 12:51:19 AM
Crossposting some of the deleted content from the above exchange, just to point out for posterity that rb2013 is an asshole. Currawong got in there sanitized everything.

Oh, also, apparently my pointing out what he's doing "was abusive." Ugh. 

_________________________________________

Originally Posted by rb2013
 
I trust David Mahler's and my ears over yours and Tyll - but stuff the earphones with cotton balls and duct tape if you want.  I love your comments on a cable that you've never heard - and then giving others advice about them - typical. :rolleyes:
 
Now I could have mentioned the SAA Endorphin cables - but they're more expensive.  I have heard them and they're even better - but maybe not worth the added cost over the Moons.
 
BTW those '3D modeling' plots were subject.  The HD800 are some of the most neutral and realistic HPs made.  Many other folks have shown near ruler flat plots.

Oh and David Mahler's comments on the HD800's. http://www.head-fi.org/t/634201/battle-of-the-flagships-58-headphones-compared#user_HD800
 
But I guess you're a greater authority on all things headphone and audio then David. :wink:
 
Edit: BTW I see from your profile the HD800's are 'enroute' - do you even have a pair?  I've had mine for three years of intense listening - three different cables - 5 different HP amps. You're a piece of work - could you give some more advice on 6922's.  Those OG's you recommend are superior (sarc):confused_face:
 
______________________________________________________________

Originally posted by AustinValentine

Wow, what a bunch of disingenuous bullshit.
 
Yes, I've had pairs in-house many times, and have listened to them off of my own gear - which I admit is modest. Moreover, I've had prolonged demos through gear exchanges with others and long demos at numerous Chicago area shows. At the last two shows, I had wonderful long listening sessions off of both @ogodei's pair with and stock his Questyle/DNA Stratus combo and then at the next show with someone's Anax modded pair (I think @zabzaf's) off of Ogodei's Yggy/Rag combo and the Pulse X-Fi Infinity/Cavalli Liquid Carbon.
 
But, none of that actually matters, because you didn't actually bring this up because you think that I hadn't heard the HD800 or really wanted to know about my gearing history and references. The rhetorical tactic that you're using here is called an "Attack on Ethos" - which, like the previous comments about sources, and your last comment about my tube recommendations, isn't about finding information or the process of discovery but is actually about insulting through the implication of a lack of experience (or, a lack of gearing). This type of rhetorical tactic is the definition of bad faith engagement.
 
And you're the one calling me a piece of work?
 
No one is asking you to believe me or Tyll over David Mahler. Actually, if I recall correctly, I don't remember my initial post addressing you at all. (Also, not that I don't think that David Mahler has listened or done enough to earn his place as one of many credible reviewers and sources, the way that you're utilizing him and his reviews is called an "Appeal to Authority" fallacy.)  And my second post largely kept to the issue of the HD800 mod - making no implications about your credibility, experience, gearing, or hearing. I snarked about recommending a large budget cable over a mod - but I'm pretty positive that that is not the first time that has happened on Head-Fi.
 
In any case, this is getting pretty far away from discussing the Schiit Mjolnir 2.




And then this to top it off

Wow!  I bow to your hypocritical reply - talk about horse****.  You did the Tyll 'appeal to authority' on this ridiculous mod thing..  But get this - you and I guess the other HP wizard @Arnotts are questioning David Mahler's experience with the HD800s!  LMFAO!!  You guys are a comedy act.  I respect David Mahler's knowledge and opinion way more then some blog/zine reviewer - certainly over you chaps.:beyersmile:
 
If you had said in your 'authoritative' critic of the HD800 and your strong recommendation to someone else to mod theirs - when you don't have them and haven't tried them mod.  'Hey I don;t own the HD800 and haven't tried this mod - but you could check it out - fine'.  But no you come off like some HD800 expert - giving your sage advice.  Because you read an article?  Then mock me for recommending a HP cable to better the HD800s.  Again in the most condensing of manners.
:deadhorse:
 
But since you love to give all this logic stuff - try and process this.  Sennheiser is probably the world's best high end headphone manufacturer - certain the one with the best engineering staff.  And so this guy Tyell - with his $50 foam pad inserts - had out engineered Sennheiser on their totl HP. Total rubbish - this is one yarn for the history books.
 
Then you top it all off with your experience listening...wait for it..some nice gear at an audio show!  Wow!  I am impressed.  No wait two shows...knock me over.  20minutes at a noisy trade show to decern the finer points of a few top amps and headphones.  Well i bow to your great level of experience (and a 100 headfi posts!).
 
Well that certainly beats this.


David home collection for his review.
 
Then on to your vast 6922 tube knowledge to again dispense your sage knowledge and experience - what did your hear those OGs at that trade show?
Title: Re: Way too funny. Only on HF...
Post by: Anaxilus on September 14, 2015, 01:06:28 AM
Wait, someone out engineered Sennheiser's silver plated cable? How this possible?!;p

I love people trapping themselves in their own logic.

To borrow a line from Full Metal Jacket, "Better you than me."
Title: Re: Way too funny. Only on HF...
Post by: mikoss on September 14, 2015, 04:10:13 AM
Rb actually joined here as well and cross posted his 6DJ8 shoot out. I think it's extremely amateur to suggest a cable over an actual mod that has measurements showing the difference it makes. Then again, I haven't heard a Russian 6DJ8 equivalent that sounds as good as his supposed Russian holy grail tubes. (Which are also mostly sold by himself to tube rollers who read his shoot out... I much prefer the Philips tubes myself.)

Anyway yeah, his comments today were absolute trash. Maybe he's off his meds again or something.

I've lost patience with HF quite a bit over junk like this. Nice to be here instead  :-X
Title: Re: Way too funny. Only on HF...
Post by: Arnotts on September 14, 2015, 04:45:31 AM
Rb actually joined here as well and cross posted his 6DJ8 shoot out. I think it's extremely amateur to suggest a cable over an actual mod that has measurements showing the difference it makes. Then again, I haven't heard a Russian 6DJ8 equivalent that sounds as good as his supposed Russian holy grail tubes. (Which are also mostly sold by himself to tube rollers who read his shoot out... I much prefer the Philips tubes myself.)

Anyway yeah, his comments today were absolute trash. Maybe he's off his meds again or something.

I've lost patience with HF quite a bit over junk like this. Nice to be here instead  :-X
LOL, he really does come across as an old crackpot to me.

His arguments were completely nonsensical. I feel sorry for anyone who takes him seriously.


Title: Re: Way too funny. Only on HF...
Post by: Marvey on September 14, 2015, 07:38:11 PM
Unfortunately, a significant number of audiophiles subscribe to mysticism and/or exclusivity, hence the angle toward esoteric expensive cables and unobtainium tubes of specific markings and runes.

Think of special magic swords or armor in D&D or MMORPGs. It's more fun this way. A cheap mod which yields suitable results validated by measurements... no, that would be too easy.


Title: Re: Way too funny. Only on HF...
Post by: elwappo99 on September 15, 2015, 12:30:48 AM
Wait, someone out engineered Sennheiser's silver plated cable? How this possible?!;p

I love people trapping themselves in their own logic.

To borrow a line from Full Metal Jacket, "Better you than me."

This was my first thought in a fury of others. Sennheiser engineers their headphones so well any mods won't improve them, but somehow they overlooked the cable and dropping $300 on the cable will reduce cup resonance!