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Re: Beyer DT1350 #2 Frequency Response
« Reply #10 on: March 14, 2012, 12:02:26 AM »
Except for the wiggles in the frequency curve, I can almost interpolate the new curve with pads as being very near the "Golden Ear" green line that can be seen on the chart I shown for the ESW10JPN in the other thread.  A variation from the Golden Ear curve of less than 3 dB over most of the frequency range would suggest a very good response curve I would think for this DT1350 with the pads.

With my eye I am imposing the green curve over an estimated best fit with your latest data.
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Re: Beyer DT1350 #2 Frequency Response
« Reply #11 on: March 14, 2012, 12:10:52 AM »
Don't worry too much about the idealized Golden Ear curve. Best to have your own personal one. Besides, measurement results are totally different. Although for some reason, Golden Ear FR curves and my curves have been more or less consistent. Tyll's curves always seem to have a lower treble suckout and mid treble peak no matter the headphone. I don't know why.

But yeah - the overall tone of the DT1350 is quite nice and the CSD results are excellent. At least for one that passed QC.
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Re: Beyer DT1350 #2 Frequency Response
« Reply #12 on: March 14, 2012, 01:44:43 AM »
Quote from: purrin on March 14, 2012, 12:10:52 AM
Don't worry too much about the idealized Golden Ear curve. Best to have your own personal one. Besides, measurement results are totally different. Although for some reason, Golden Ear FR curves and my curves have been more or less consistent. Tyll's curves always seem to have a lower treble suckout and mid treble peak no matter the headphone. I don't know why.

But yeah - the overall tone of the DT1350 is quite nice and the CSD results are excellent. At least for one that passed QC.

Golden Ear's CSDs are way different from yours though.  Sometimes its a lot more than just the smoothing.  Check their HD800 numbers.

http://en.goldenears.net/4326

What kind of coupler and compensation curve are you using for the FR or is it secret like the CSD one?
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Re: Beyer DT1350 #2 Frequency Response
« Reply #13 on: March 14, 2012, 01:57:06 AM »
It's all a secret.

The minor 6kHz ringing is evident on both of our CSDs. The largest difference is the ringing at 3kHz on his CSD. I don't hear it though; if anything, the HD800 is laid-back in this region - I use a certain track with voice that tends to highlight problems there.

It's possible his pair is different.
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Re: Beyer DT1350 #2 Frequency Response
« Reply #14 on: March 14, 2012, 03:03:11 AM »
Could be different.  Considering its Senn and not Beyer or something I'm wondering a little...

Pretty much all of them that you've both done pretty different to me but I went with the HD800 because it should be pretty consistent from sample to sample compared to some other models and thought it would be good to try and minimize sample variation.

The HD650 might be worth a look too.

http://en.goldenears.net/11616

Most of the differences in FR graphs between here or golden ears or innerfidelity or headroom or wherever are just from different compensation functions but the CSDs shouldn't be affected by that.
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Re: Beyer DT1350 #2 Frequency Response
« Reply #15 on: March 14, 2012, 03:13:00 AM »
Hmm, we've never seen that on any HD800.  We'll have to do CEE TEEs as well.
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Re: Beyer DT1350 #2 Frequency Response
« Reply #16 on: March 14, 2012, 03:16:24 AM »
Ok, that HD650 plot.  No way is the 650 faster and cleaner than the HD800.  :o   There is something wrong. That doesn't mesh w/ any other crosschecking of the 800's impulse response.
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Re: Beyer DT1350 #2 Frequency Response
« Reply #17 on: March 14, 2012, 03:19:39 AM »
What the hell is a 'Golden Ears amplifier'?
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Re: Beyer DT1350 #2 Frequency Response
« Reply #18 on: March 14, 2012, 03:22:20 AM »
I don't get turned on by their CSD's at all.  Maybe it's just me though. 
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Re: Beyer DT1350 #2 Frequency Response
« Reply #19 on: March 14, 2012, 03:22:26 AM »
Quote from: maverickronin on March 14, 2012, 03:03:11 AM
Could be different.  Considering its Senn and not Beyer or something I'm wondering a little...

Pretty much all of them that you've both done pretty different to me but I went with the HD800 because it should be pretty consistent from sample to sample compared to some other models and thought it would be good to try and minimize sample variation.

The HD650 might be worth a look too.

http://en.goldenears.net/11616

Most of the differences in FR graphs between here or golden ears or innerfidelity or headroom or wherever are just from different compensation functions but the CSDs shouldn't be affected by that.

The one I measured I think was an older HD650 (not the newer one with less veil).

But I got confused. It's this Japanese guy where my measurements are more similar: http://sonove.angry.jp/ATH_W3000ANV.html
Not Goldenears. Ooops.
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