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Re: HiFiMan HE-560 measurements
« Reply #100 on: July 28, 2014, 05:29:18 PM »
Quote from: aufmerksam on July 28, 2014, 04:32:11 PM
With the lower impedance, and (barely) higher sensitivity, shouldn't the 560 be louder, inputs being the same? I am trying to compare / contrast the two, but I FEEL LIKE I AM TAKING CRAZY PILLS, and cannot get past this.

  • Impedance has nothing to do with sensitivity. Oftentimes depending up the amp, lower impedance will mean softer sound.
  • Headphone manufacturers tend to be very liberal with sensitivity specs.
  • You are not crazy. I wouldn't worry about stuff like this.
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Re: HiFiMan HE-560 measurements
« Reply #101 on: July 28, 2014, 06:34:35 PM »
Quick replies appreciated. I understand the relationship (lack thereof) between impedance and sensitivity, I was just perplexed based on all I had read / looked at to find such a difference between the volume of these two. I am over it now, and just listening again.
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Re: HiFiMan HE-560 measurements
« Reply #102 on: July 28, 2014, 08:42:04 PM »
So I bought my pair of  these today. Since I had to sell all my stuff to afford a new apartment I only have the Objective combo to drive them. What would you recommend me to upgrade first?
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Re: HiFiMan HE-560 measurements
« Reply #103 on: July 28, 2014, 09:39:36 PM »
Quote from: aufmerksam on July 28, 2014, 06:34:35 PM
Quick replies appreciated. I understand the relationship (lack thereof) between impedance and sensitivity, I was just perplexed based on all I had read / looked at to find such a difference between the volume of these two. I am over it now, and just listening again.

Yep - completely normal. My HE-560 is clearly lower in volume for same pot position than my HE-500 for whatever that's worth. Curious to hear your opinions on HE-560 vs HE-500.
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Re: HiFiMan HE-560 measurements
« Reply #104 on: July 28, 2014, 09:57:45 PM »
Quote from: Moosecraft on July 28, 2014, 08:42:04 PM
So I bought my pair of  these today. Since I had to sell all my stuff to afford a new apartment I only have the Objective combo to drive them. What would you recommend me to upgrade first?


The pads.
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Re: HiFiMan HE-560 measurements
« Reply #105 on: July 28, 2014, 09:58:45 PM »
Quote from: anetode on July 28, 2014, 09:57:45 PM
Quote from: Moosecraft on July 28, 2014, 08:42:04 PM
So I bought my pair of  these today. Since I had to sell all my stuff to afford a new apartment I only have the Objective combo to drive them. What would you recommend me to upgrade first?

I'm getting them shipped with pre-prod pads already, I meant amp/dac wise

The pads.
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Re: HiFiMan HE-560 measurements
« Reply #106 on: July 28, 2014, 10:23:20 PM »
Quote from: paranoidroid on July 28, 2014, 09:39:36 PM
Yep - completely normal. My HE-560 is clearly lower in volume for same pot position than my HE-500 for whatever that's worth. Curious to hear your opinions on HE-560 vs HE-500.

Its been an interesting listen so far. I have been listening to pretty much the same CD for more than a week, since I JUST finished auditioning an LCD-3. I was primarily comparing to my HE-500, so I am still listening to the same CD, and will be all week but with HE-560 in audition seat. This morning, based on the volume fiasco I was thinking "wtf detail retrieval?! I can't hear SHIT."

Here is what I can say: the LCD-3 are getting sold because I remain un-enamored of the Audeze Houze of Darknezz. Also having an out of water aircraft carrier on my head is becoming less and less pleasant the less and less young I become. I actually cancelled an order for LCD-X after I tried listening to LCD-3 all day ... once.

Why all this about the LCD-3? because, so far, I hear that the HE-560 is noticeably more laid back than the HE-500. Not as much as the LCD-3 was, but somewhere between. First I thought that the punch to the low bass and the crispness in the highs, both things I like, were missing. But on closer listen, they are not missing, just ... slightly subdued. I am still in the process of determining whether this new sound is something I like, but I am beginning to suspect it will be.

The comfort is unreal, and I am quite sure that if I don't keep the 560's I will begin hunting / harassing Fang to sell the headband / gymbal unit for the 560 so I can apply it to my 500's. Heck, I might do that anyway. More tomorrow.

[edited due to careless proof reading, and omission of a z]
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Re: HiFiMan HE-560 measurements
« Reply #107 on: July 28, 2014, 10:45:29 PM »
Quote from: Moosecraft on July 28, 2014, 09:58:45 PM
I'm getting them shipped with pre-prod pads already, I meant amp/dac wise

My advice would be for you to listen to it with the gear you have for a while, then think about upgrades.
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Re: HiFiMan HE-560 measurements
« Reply #108 on: July 28, 2014, 11:01:55 PM »
Anyone try the Vegan pads on the 560 yet?
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Re: HiFiMan HE-560 measurements
« Reply #109 on: July 30, 2014, 03:13:02 PM »
Day late and many dollars short.

Did a lot of listening over the last few days and here is my bottom line: the HE-560 lets / makes me listen to my music longer / more than my HE-500 did. The comfort comparison is a joke, and that affects my perception, but I don't care, the goal is moar music. I like low volume for most listening, and at lower volumes the 560 sounds better and more full.

The highs: After I got over "missing" the 500's 8-10K peak, it turns out I can listen at lower volumes and hear everything I like hearing (not just the high shit).
The lows: I like the bass rumble very much better. At first the 560 seemed much looser than the 500, but after a MUCH more varied library of songs, the bass feels more real across more genres. (don't know how else to say it).
The mids: I can still hear all the shit I enjoyed hearing before. This was not a big difference in my opinion between the two; the data tell me there is a bit more dip 1-2k, and emphasis at 3-5k, on the 560, but it certainly didn't sound worse than the 500, so whatever.

I have some Focus-A on order so I will have to see if I like how those work.
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