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Lobby => Music and Recordings => Topic started by: Cristello on December 17, 2012, 07:36:53 AM
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Interview LINK (http://youtu.be/zH_5Ug2iOLU?t=4m16s)
Surprise surprise... try to guess what he hates.
Even a guy well known for extremely repetitive stuff knows what's up!
I almost feel like doing pro-bono mastering for some of these acts... so sad.
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I'm definitely not a Dubstep fan, nor a Deamau5 fan. I tried watching one of his highly rated concerts and got bored out of my mind. However, kind of silly critique as that applies to the whole industry across all genres for the past 20 years. I wonder what he has to say about Death Magnetic.
This is actually Dubstep done right IMHO. Makes me laugh he can't say 'waTERfall'. English.... :))
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOT2-OTebx0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOT2-OTebx0)
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A lot of EDM producers, especially in the Dubstep scene could learn a thing or two from the old Soul & Funk era.
A good groove is more than distortion and bloated frequencies...
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... and got "bored out of my mind ...
This is actually Dubstep done right IMHO. Makes me laugh he can't say 'waTERfall'. English.... :))
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOT2-OTebx0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOT2-OTebx0)
You and Zimmerman both! :)
I dig the James Blake stuff. The YouTube SQ is terrible, you need a proper version to hear what he's got going on.
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I dig the James Blake stuff. The YouTube SQ is terrible, you need a proper version to hear what he's got going on.
Yeah, I've heard that song of Focal Grande Utopias. Worked well enough at the time.
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If Dub Step or Dub is your thing dig a bit. Leeperry on HF choose his user name for a reason...
I'll stick to Burial for now...
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James Blake is good, but I've been less into his work over time. Yeah how cliche: I prefer his earlier stuff.
Burial is good. I really enjoy Swarms' "Old Raves End." Also 2562, Scuba, Ital Tek, and Vex'd.
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If Dub Step or Dub is your thing dig a bit...
I've never liked dub-step (even for the dub...) I actually think that Skrillex is the devil. :&
I didn't enjoy that James Blake song, either. I won't elaborate, but thanks for posting it anyways.
The closest style I like is ambient "drum"-step, I.E. --> Eyesdown (Machinedrum Remix 5" Edit), Bonobo (http://www.bonobomusic.com/assets/eyesdown_machinedrum_remix_edit.mp3)
I posted this merely to highlight the rampant lack of even personal investment in quality sound from "popular" artists these days.
When even the most mainstream EDM producer I know admits we have a problem, we have a problem...
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Dubstep is a misunderstood genre since people don't know what they mean when they say the word. I like you Cristello.
Listen-y:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HwZoLBgttzE
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You need to hear the Blake track on the Grande Utopias w/ DSP. That was pretty cool and lovely and very clean.
I listened to quite a bit of Dub Music as a kid, especially travelling around the Caribbean. The connection to Dubstep is tenuous at best to me. I mean, if I play Tchaikovsky's 1812 Overture using an X-Fi crystalizer with a setting of "Echo", "Reverb" or "Bathroom", does that make it Dubstep?
It seems Dubstep is in dire need of sub-genres.
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If Dub Step or Dub is your thing dig a bit. Leeperry on HF choose his user name for a reason...
I regard these as a series of unfortunate coincidences.
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When I received some of his music there were some unexpectedly delicious grooves.
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James Blake is dub step? Wtf. I thought of that as kind of a hip hop r&b soul hybrid of sorts
I have a pretty negative idea of dub step after all the deuches on headfi but i guess i dont really know what it is.
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That James Blake song is not dub-step.
It is definitely fusion; a mix of classic R&B and Dub. (Plus very a very low bass line)
fyi, dub-step != Dub.
Dub came from punk/garage tunes, and dub-step is an aggressive sub-genre of electro-house (like death-metal vs. heavy-metal)
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This interview: http://www.electricaddict.net/2012/01/bassnectar-explains-dubstep-in-under-3.html (http://www.electricaddict.net/2012/01/bassnectar-explains-dubstep-in-under-3.html)
Used to be connected to this rather useful prezi: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7qnG5rBfO0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7qnG5rBfO0)
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Older James Blake is more "typical" style dubstep.
And dub is not dubstep, no. It's not punk either. It's was originally a subgenre of reggae pioneered by the likes of King Tubby in the 60s and 70s. In part dubstep grew out of the fusion of dub with UK 2-step garage, though it also owes a lot to Basic Channel who pioneered a sort of "dub techno" which isn't exactly dubstep, and in fact I'd say predates it. They later went on to become more overtly dub with their Rhythm & Sound project, while others like Monolake continued their earlier trajectory and took it in new directions with the Chain Reaction label.
In my humble opinion generally: dub techno > dubstep.
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That was cool Shipsupt. I guess I did know what dub-step was, that's what I always thought of. I still don't see James blake's new album being thrown into that category.
And I can't imagine how so many people on Hf only seem to listen to dub-step. They must live in a very small world.
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This is the best explanation of Dubstep out there:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Kod1q39ddE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Kod1q39ddE)
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yep.
Loud and Disorienting™ (nose-bleed optional)
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haha it's funny how many "what song is this/where can I get this song" comments there are. Was that song a good representation of dub-step? :-0
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...Was that song a good representation of dub-step? :-0
Naw, just really simple and stereotypical. Yeah, dem kids do crave any of it, dho!
Excision (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwVhyeXqxIM&hd=1&t=52s)... that stuff could definitely incite riots and jumping out of windows. :)p13
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Just listened to a few tracks. Wow....
It's funny how the album artowork looks like computer game equipment packaging. Target audience?
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I actually think that Skrillex is the devil. :&
Thank you!
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Why isn't Korn working them instead of Skrillex? Seems a better fit. Must be name brand marketing on their part.
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I think studies need to be done on shootings and "gritty" dub-step.
Prime example: Random and disgusting Noisia video (http://youtu.be/SAO-lzl3vVQ) :gross: :vomit:
Edited by Anal - Let's not go there right now....
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The worst part about "dub step" is that it isn't dubstep at all. Dubstep was a completely different genre. Sort of like Pop Music.
But disregarding that, the biggest problem is that the genre has become commercialised. The earliest "dub step" regularly featured poly and cross rhythms in the bass, as well as a great deal of syncopation. MODERN dubstep (and brostep or whatever you call it), has been so watered down that nearly every new song released hits very typically "rock" beats.
The rhythmic interest is no longer there. It's sort of like hearing the amen break for the 40000th time.
My 2c.
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Tangential, but related to ihasmario's post, a short youtube video explaining the history (and overusage) of the amen break, a riff during a song that has become the basis for the rhythm of whole genres (in its various forms):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SaFTm2bcac
There are very few genres that have remained static. They all change over time as artists try to keep things fresh. Usually when its different enough it will warrant a subgenre under a large umbrella genre. I don't really know much about dubstep but I'm sure its connoisseurs have already broken up the larger "dubstep" genre into a host of subgenres. So when someone says "I hate dubstep," a purveyor of all things step can say "which type? Real original dubstep or x or y sellout subgenre?"
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Someone who likes Dubstep: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGhVXgMoz4g (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGhVXgMoz4g)
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I hate sellout dubstep from dumb Americans.
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this version is better: link (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BHR48hQYfg) (its got drums[!!!]) :-DD
...and this one's for you purrin -->link (https://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=i_EZ20khf6M) :)p13